The Latest Sinister Lothario: Judge Roy Moore

The fact that support for this disgusting man has “surged” in Alabama is horrifying. I’m sure all those folks claim to be God fearing too.
You know your country has hit an all time low when folks are doing mental gymnastics to justify pedophilia.

@jollymama I have no idea but I for one have a hard time with those older locks that require you to grab the metal nob and pull up.

Disclaimer: I did not hear this woman’s description. (I just can’t listen to these right now. It brings back too many memories.) I don’t think I would have been thinking clearly if I was in that position to get a door unlocked and open.

@jollymama , cars back then just had a manual lock,if he pushed it down she would have had to pull it up to get out.

Tomorrow should be interesting indeed. This man is very stubborn, and we shouldn’t be surprised considering his antics as a judge. He’s not good material to be a “redeemed sinner” since he’ll continue to deny everything. And there are the undercurrents… this is a proxy war of a sort and everyone involved is stubborn.

It took 3 years for Sen. Packwood to resign, just before the Senate was set to vote on whether to expel him. These things don’t happen quickly. Let’s hope the pedophile is not elected and it’s a clean election.

Obviously, I don’t know the answer to this specific question, but I can tell you that my Dad drove around for a while in a car with a passenger door that could not be opened from the inside simply because he never got around to taking it to a repair shop to get fixed. So, I would suggest not losing sight of the forest for the trees.

He might have had a fancier car with automatic locks, even in the 70s. We had an “old” 1975 Lincoln Continental in the late 80s and it had many, many, button controls on the driver’s side door.

There are always men that are attracted to those younger than them so yes, I find it ick personally His wife is 14 or 15 years younger than him and he probably married her in his late 30s or early 40s cause I think she’s in her 50s and he is 70 I think the press said so she was a young woman when she married him. I actually know several men in our town that always have a 18-20 something on their arm. They are rich and they have young girlfriends and they are my age and they have had multiple marriages as they trade in for a younger model…gross really gross…so I absolutely think there are men who absolutely are attracted to young women and some of those guys never give it up and keep going down that path right into old age. Difference between this guy and the old guys in my town are he did get married and he did settle down…or at least on surface it appears that way since they aren’t finding any young girls he’s hit on recently. The force thing and the 14 year old claim absolutely that is unacceptable, but I really don’t have a problem if young girls are attracted to sugar daddies and they consensually date. I think the older men after the younguns are gross but not my aspiration to make it illegal. But make no mistake - in my mind there is a world of difference between a 14 year old and a 16-18 year old - there’s a legal difference and there’s a moral difference in my book. I also think it’s morally repugnant if either of these two abuse stories has been elaborated.

Frankly it’s all about morality now and who is telling the truth. No doubt the guy dated younguns…but did he force two women? Personally I frankly I find the 14 year old’s story more believable than the car behind the restaurant story because no one except that women has said he forced…the 14 year old even said he backed off when she wouldn’t go along.

I could see that she could have had a difficult time unlocking the door if she was unfamiliar with the car and was trying to fend off the groping.

My Nana had a Buick Electra that was kept at her Florida home and she died in 1972, so it was older than that. It had all sorts of electric stuff controlled by buttons on the drivers side. Even the windows weren’t manual on that car.

If you’re where I was in post 311, you think he did it.

Since hearing Ms. Nelson, I’m more convinced. Right now, I don’t have any doubt. He targeted young girls and tried to rape some of them.

Gag on the repeatedly badgering teen girls. Eww.

Skieurope. I’m impressed. You must have done well on the verbal section. :slight_smile: Pardon my missing that the victim was 14, not 15. ( Like there is a whole lot of difference for a girl - every girl in this family looked around 18 at 12) :open_mouth:

Moore stopped with the waitress too. According to her, he got upset because she said no, and reached over and opened the door. She couldn’t recall if she fell out or if he shoved her, but he sped off with her sitting on the road. She told her sister two weeks after the attack, her husband 13 years ago and her mom 4 years ago. And yes, she was 16…still a child as far as I am concerned…unable to smoke, vote, drink or runaway…in the great state of AL.

He tried to force her to give him oral sex, but she resisted. He “stopped” after she fought him off. This is a description of attempted rape.

I see a pattern.

My prediction is that he’s not going anywhere (meaning he’s not withdrawing). Look at his history. He was removed from the bench twice, the last time after being found guilty of all 6 charges against him including the following:

  • disregarding a federal injunction.
  • demonstrated unwillingness to follow clear law.
  • abuse of administrative authority.
  • substituting his judgment for the judgement of the entire Alabama Supreme Court, including failure to abstain from public comment about a pending proceeding in his own court.
  • interference with legal process and remedies in the United States District Court and/or Alabama Supreme Court related to proceedings in which Alabama probate judges were involved.
  • failure to recuse himself from pending proceedings in the Alabama Supreme Court after making public comment and placing his impartiality into question.

I’d like to believe he won’t be elected, but we’re talking about Alabama, and he’s the George Wallace of our time.

Nominate a person who thinks he’s above the law, and he’ll turn out to think he’s above the law.

I’ve gotten confused on the timeline. Was the incident with the 14 y/o in the cabin before or after the 16 y/o in the car?

I believe the alleged incident with the young waitress was a couple of years before the alleged incident with the 14 year old in the cabin.

Hmm I see George HW Bush was accused a groping another person and this was long before he was in a wheelchair. I wonder how his handlers will spin this one?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-41974116

At this point we can only hope the sensible folks of Alabama come out to vote for his opponent. My family is from Alabama, both parents, I spent every summer there as a child to age 15, and I’m not holding out hope. I still have family there in a small town that much like Gadsden. The stuff that goes in there is quite unbelievable so I am not shocked at the support Moore enjoys n