The thing that gets me is Jones is not a typical liberal Dem, he will probably vote with the republicans many times once he gets to D.C.
Even if moore didn’t have these new issues he has done plenty in the past that should make him ineligible to be a senator.
If the election was close, I would never do that unless I thought Child Molester and Unacceptable Racist were equally bad. And I would probably never think Molester and Racist were equally bad, considering all their other qualities. Both of them would be very bad for many people, but taking everything into account, one of them would be worse. Whichever that one was, I’d hold my nose and vote for the other one, because I’d know that U. S. Senators make a difference in the lives of many people. I could not, by my vote, cause the world to be worse than it would have been if I’d voted differently.
Both would be unacceptable to me and neither belongs in the US Senate. I would write in another name because I could not, in good conscious vote for either one, as each is despicable.
You’re not being imaginative enough about evil here. Pedophile vs. Serial Killer. Pedophile vs. Lex Luthor. Pedophile vs. Bond Villain. Pedophile vs. Hitler.
If the “lesser evil” is a pedophile because the other is a Democrat, I have no hope at all for our future.
Not that I’ve had much to begin with lately.
Just to be clear, Moore’s actual opponent is known for seeking justice:
"Jones served as the United States Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, and rose to prominence for prosecuting the remaining two Ku Klux Klan perpetrators of the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing which killed four African-American girls, along with securing an indictment against the Olympic Park Bomber, Eric Rudolph, whose 1998 attack on a Birmingham abortion clinic killed an off-duty police officer. Rudolph was sentenced in 2005, after Jones left office. "
I understand. Alabamans are deciding between a man who prosecuted the murderer of 14-year-old girls and a man who (allegedly) molested a 14-year-old girl. I don’t find that a tough choice.
But I have to put myself in the mind of someone from the other side. I don’t think it’s a tough choice, but they think so. How would I react if I were faced with a choice as difficult as they think they are faced with?
Just finished a letter to Governor Ivey. It won’t change anything, but I feel better for having written it.
The more I think about it, they more I realize that she has, in effect, decided that female children in our state simply do not matter. If a politician with an ® after his name feels like grabbing my 13 year old daughter, that’s just fine and dandy with her.
Well, it’s not with me.
@Belle315 Keep fighting the good fight! Your daughter and her friends are watching you!
Good for you. I wonder how she would feel if this happened to her daughter - is it OK if it happens to her daughter or just to other people’s daughters?
In Louisiana we had the “vote for the crook” governor’s election. A career politician with shady business dealings (Edwards) vs David Duke.
I voted for the crook. He has since been convicted and spent time in jail. It wasn’t a hard choice, although I didn’t like having to make it. I don’t regret it
I do regret voting for Bobby Jindal, who was a terrible governor IMO If he ran again and his opponent was a child molester, I’d vote for him. Not happily, but I’d do it. Heck I’d vote for David Vitter, who has his own sex scandal, over a child molester.
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OK, let’s move on past the “who to vote for” please. That’s well over the line of political discussion.
Ivey said it was because of Supreme Court appointees. I take that as code for overturning Rowe.
But… isn’t being willing to put up with the vilest things to get what you want politically beyond politicsand into fanaticism?
I totally understand why Republicans wouldn’t want to vote for a Democrat, but they really shouldn’t support a guy who preys on teenagers. That makes no sense to me, Roe or not. " would I entrust my child to this person for an afternoon" seems like a very very basic prerequisite to determine if the candidate is fit for office, a necessary but not sufficient condition.
Apparently RM’s latest defense is to claim the yearbook is false and should be examined by a handwriting specialist. I don’t think he will quit the race since he’s feeling self righteous about it and it seems admitting nothing helps political candidates, but I really hope he won’t get elected, ruby red Alabama or not.
I think many of Moore’s supporters don’t see it as supporting an abuser vs a Democrat. They simply choose not to believe the charges. Many think the women are lying, or are being paid, and the whole thing is a setup put on by either the Post or Democrats. Or they think the Post is just flat out “fake news” making it up from whole cloth.
“This person wants to put my child in prison” is no better to me than “this person would have wanted to molest my child at a younger age.” In reality, they can/could likely do neither, but given an opportunity to make or influence policy, which child is more a risk?
The pres had an interesting point yesterday when he said the women in question voted for him. That is to say, the women themselves did not have a problem with voting for someone accused of sexual misconduct - why should the rest of us, then?
Re #625
Regarding the accusers’ previous voting choices:
- Some people may object to some types of sexual misconduct but not others.
- Some people may object only if they are the victims.
- Some people may object, but override their objections for other reasons.
And some people may quite rightly object to substituting someone else’s judgment for their own.
For (one of) the same reason(s) we don’t just let abuse victims dictate policy and whatnot- too many still blame themselves and not the perp.