He might have gotten more respect that way, but on the other hand, the media circus about his transition is drawing attention to a situation that many people donāt know much about and bringing it into the mainstream. Thereās some value in that.
I think after all the years she spent repressing those urges (or being shamed after being discovered giving in to them), she very well may. If I were a betting woman, Iād wager that she will love every minute of it.
āIt is the same reason some people hate cheerleaders or beauty contest contestants. So they are attacked for being shallow or dumb or dressing sexy or whatever else.ā
Wait, it not PC enough to find someone dumb or dislike clothing choices? But it IS crazy knee-jerk PC to respect Jennerās choices, even if not oneās own?
Some of you forget how much of our lives is governed by external expectations and to some extent, the preferences of others. All this self-congratulating about being oneself misses how much we all adhere to guidelines in different ways, at different times. In my own estimation, Iām myself whether barefoot or in a business suit or looking dreadful or fabulous. Otoh, i ty to moderate some of the āreal meā when called for.
And to whomever suggested Jenner may just be odd, we donāt know yet. For now, I can go with what simple observations are in front of me, reserving judgment.
I agree with those saying she will revel in it.
Itās like when a teenager is able to wear makeup for the first timeā¦wear her first pair of heelsā¦curl her hair. Sheās going to have a great time. I know during the special I believe, Caitlyn was pretty excited to show Kim her outfits and makeup.
āMaybe so. Perhaps she will revel in spending hours a day fixing her hair and makeup, just so she can walk outside, with television cameras waiting to catch her on an off day.ā
This was a photo shoot for Vanity Fair for goodness sakes. Why would you project that therefore she will āspend hours a day fixing hair and makeupā?
And if cameras were going to be pointed at me every time I left my house, I sure as heck would ensure my hair and makeup were done and I looked nice. Iām not being critiqued in People and Us and the Natl Enquirer; are you?
"If the shoes fits ā¦ my jealous comments fit certain posters and they know who they are. Not everyone thinks KK is hot and not everyone is jealous of her. That is obvious. That goes without saying.
One of these days, Vogue will ask a band-geek to be on the cover. Yeah. KK has been on the cover of all kinds of magazine, that must really suck, she must really hate all the attention from men."
Who here do you think is jealous? I think Iām quite pretty if the truth be told. I donāt need to envy KK. I wish her well like I wish anyone well.
I for one, blame the Kardashians for the whole promposal thing.
That goes for the Duggars too.
Doesnāt it strike anyone that a 20 page thread is plenty of proof folks are interested? Our reactions may differ (and yes, some of the arguments are silly,) but weāre here. Weāre putting her in the limelight, too. Granted, this started because Jenner is public. But I think this shows we eat it up.
Now, CNN commented that the glamour presented could do disservice to some who canāt present as Caitlyn does. So think about that and consider how you react (or even snicker) in real life.
Well, yeah, of course! I think they are probably responsible for Homecoming Mums too, and quinceaƱeras.
I think there is a dichotomy that has happened with this thread. There is the Bruce Jenner becomes Caitlyn Jenner topic. And the Kardashian/how to dress like a lady topic. I think they are both worthy of discussion, but the back in forth is hurting my brain.
Maybe.
So far the media circus aspect of the coverage doesnāt do anything to try to explain the āwhyā behind the compulsion to alter appearance and assume a new name. That its such a famous person so attuned to the spotlight does make it seem to some like a willful choiceā¦a bid for hyper publicity and the shot at a lucrative new career as television star.
If Caitlynās show is merely a voyeuristic look inside her new life as woman, Iām not sure it will help dispel myths and misconceptions ---- such as the earlier highlighted comment that God creates male and female with no blurry lines ---- rather than reinforce the belief that āHollywoodā is out to destroy the American family.
It might be helpful if the show could introduce the public to other, regular, nonglamorous people who are transgender and let them tell their stories. Or bring on experts to discuss fetal brain development and the chemistry that has to occur in just the right sequence to produce gender identity that is in sync mentally and physically. Then again, if the show tries to get to science-y probably a lot of people wonāt watch it.
"This was a photo shoot for Vanity Fair for goodness sakes. Why would you project that therefore she will āspend hours a day fixing hair and makeupā?
And if cameras were going to be pointed at me every time I left my house, I sure as heck would ensure my hair and makeup were done and I looked nice. Iām not being critiqued in People and Us and the Natl Enquirer; are you?"
You just answered your own question.
āDoesnāt it strike anyone that a 20 page thread is plenty of proof folks are interested? Our reactions may differ (and yes, some of the arguments are silly,) but weāre here. Weāre putting her in the limelight, too. Granted, this started because Jenner is public. But I think this shows we eat it up.ā
I think this is correct. And I also think that most of this publicity is to generate interest in her new show. I usually would never watch a reality show, but now I might watch this. As she said, she wants to make money, as she has to pay the bills. Sheās not looking for privacy, this is what she wants.
Well, I canāt present as JLo does, either. Or any number of other women I can find on the cover of a magazine. Disservice!
As to KK, hmm, is there anything about her that Iām jealous of?
Well, I would not want her ample behind, but as someone with very little back there, I guess Iām envious of just a lāil bit of it!
I think her face was very beautiful, incredibly so. However, I think she is over botoxing, and now it no longer looks natural, which at her young age is unfortunate, imo. Of course, what is beautiful and sexy is all very subjective. Which is fine, until it starts going into the territory of moral judgments, character assassination, and psychological diagnoses by people who are by and large not qualified to do so.
I find it rather interesting, in twenty pages of posts, mostly about appearances, not one mention that Caitlin is a Republican. Oops, not looking as great to some now, I think. 
Bus, you are too much. Haha. I donāt watch TV only listen to the news occasionally. What does FOX news have to say about that?
She freely acknowledged that during the ABC interview. Itās common knowledge.
I guess we can blame the Kardashians for a lot, but not the promposal. Some people put the origins on TV show Laguna Beach. Others say it started with that movie 10 Things I Hate About You. I loved that movie. Remember Heath Ledger singing to Julia Stiles from the stands?
Caitlyn also said that she thinks she can persuade Republican politicians like Mitch McConnell and others to support trans legal rights. I think sheās a bit naive, but thereās no harm in her trying. In my experience, people on the left can be every bit as transphobic as people on the right, and more so in many cases.