<p>@nicobella You would likely need ACT35+ to get those major scholarships. You know there are at least 25% admitted students (near 4000) getting ACT33 (or SAT equivalent) or above while the better scholarship only go to the top few percent.</p>
<p>Could someone chance me please?</p>
<p>@marilo12 I would say you’re a low reach/match. Getting into Michigan these days can be difficult for an oos student. Your ACT score is about average. The 25th-75th percentile admitted student range is 30-33 for the entire university. For oss students, I would expect the average to be a little higher. Your GPA is slightly below the average, but your rigorous schedule and the competitiveness of your school should help make up for it. If you are serious about applying, I highly suggest you apply early action. Also, take the UofM essays seriously. Best of luck to you!</p>
<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): Engineering (probably)
[ *] SAT (one sitting): 2070: 650 Writing, 670 CR, 750 Math
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): N/A
[ *] ACT: 33 (31? E, 34 M, 32? R, 35 Sci, 8 Writing)
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.9
[ *] Course load (# of AP/IB/H, special courses, etc.):
9 APs
Freshman: none
Sophomore: World History (4), Statistics (5)
Junior: Psychology (5), English Lang (5), Environmental Science (4), US History (5)
Senior: Calc BC, US Gov, Physics 1
[ *] Rank: 8/370ish
[ *] Other stats: 5.1 Weighted GPA, taken 9 APs and 12 Honors classes so 21 total
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
Varsity XC - 4 years
Varsity Track - 4 years
Beta Club - 2 years
NHS - 1 year
Film Club Creator/president - 1 year
Spanish Club - 2 years
Student Council - 2 years
Sports Editor for the Yearbook Junior year
Editor-in-chief of the Yearbook Senior year
AP Scholar w/ Distinction
possible National AP Scholar
[ *] Essays: solid i think but not really my place to judge
[ *] Teacher Recs: Have had my English teacher for 3 years and 5 different classes so it’s really good
[ *] Counselor Rec: Counselors dont care about the students at my school, below average at best
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): none Im a waspy male out of stater from the south so…
[ *) Location/Person:
[ *] State or Country: North Carolina
[ *] School Type: Decent public school, one of the best in the state but NC is 48th in education so that’s not saying much
[ *] Ethnicity: W
[ *] Gender: M
[ *] major strength/weakness: I’m well rounded but I’m OOS
[ *] Other Factors/questions: Should I even report my SAT score? UMich seems to favor the ACT anyway so why hurt my chances with a rather low SAT score?</p>
<p>@JLaggot University of Michigan is a school that relies on a GPA and ACT/SAT more heavily than Extracurriculars. In Your Case, Your GPA and ACT are great and are above the UMich Average; however, Michigan’s College of Engineering is very competitive, therefore you need to stand out in your essays in order to get admission. Your Extracurriculurs are little general too Btw. To answer your last queston, Umich doesn’t prefer ACT over SAT, they are equal in terms of admission. If I were you, I wouldn’t send in that SAT score. You will get in if your essay is good! 
good luck, (BTW I am Out of State as well)</p>
<p>Whatfreak, I don’t think Michigan relies more on GPA and standardized tests, but they seem to only be impressed by significant ECs that demonstrate genuine passion and extensive time commitment.</p>
<p>Before I post my stats, I want to calculate my UM GPA, any idea how? Also, is it true that they exclude freshman year when recalculating GPA?</p>
<p>Wait, does it matter though? UM stopped recalculating GPA as of 2009:</p>
<p><a href=“The University of Michigan is no longer recalculating GPA! - University of Michigan - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/796954-the-university-of-michigan-is-no-longer-recalculating-gpa-p1.html</a></p>
<p>With that given, I guess I’ll post my stats as they are.</p>
<p>[ *] College: LSA or Engineering (unsure yet)
[ *] ACT: 27
[ *] GPA: 3.75 UW/ 3.9 W
[ *] Rank: Unsure of exact rank, but its top 10% (Out of 500ish students)
[ *] Other Stats: 3 AP classes
Sophomore year: APUSH (4)
Junior year: AP Chem (3) AP Lang (3)
Taken all Honors classes that were offered (8 completed)</p>
<p>[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):</p>
<p>Founder/President/Student Council Rep of the Art Club
Vice President of an out of school program that does community service.
Editor of the annual school literary magazine.
Member of Chem Club
Member of NHS
Member of the school’s diversity committee
Programmer(C++), Musician(Guitar and piano), Artist(traditional and abstract, usually using traditional media), all self taught.
Took a year long leadership course that focused on breaking cultural/religious stereotypes.
Over 200 community service hours with local nonprofit organizations (helped raise the minimum wage, delivered packages to the homeless/kids in need, raised awareness in voting in the community, attended many fundraisers to help various causes, food drives, etc.)
Tutor kids that need help with math, science, guitar and piano.</p>
<p>[ *] Essays: Good. I am often told that I am a great writer (My AP Lang score is a 3 possibly due to my handwriting. I have terrible handwriting.)</p>
<p>[ *] Teacher Recs: Great! Very close to a few of my teachers, rec will be very personal/unique, actually describing me.
[ *] Counselor Rec: Possibly bad. Counselor retired this year, I am going to have a new one when the school year starts.</p>
<p>[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): Family member went to UMich Dearborn, does that count as legacy?
[ *] State or Country: Michigan
[ *] School Type: Average public school. Very large (approx 2400 students total, 500ish in my class)
[ *] Ethnicity: Arab American
[ *] Gender: Male</p>
<p>[ *] major strength/weakness: Minority status/awareness and promotor of diversity as a strength. My major weakness would be my ACT score of 27.</p>
<p>[ *] Other Factors/questions: I tend to be as creative as I am intellectual (in a non narcissistically way. Demonstrated through the my initiative in teaching myself guitar and piano, while doing proficiently in classes such as H Chem/ AP chem, Precalc, etc. Also, does a family member who attended Umich Dearborn count as legacy? </p>
<p>Thanks whatfreak! I decided to go ahead and post my stats here because I see myself as really borderline, almost 50/50 as to whether I get in or not. It’s reassuring to think at least one fellow out of stater thinks I can do it.</p>
<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): Engineering , Undecided Major
[ *] SAT (one sitting): 2000
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): 2300
[ *] ACT: na
[ *] UM weighted GPA: 10/10 Till 10th grade, 80% in 12th Grade
[ *] Course load (# of AP/IB/H, special courses, etc.): n/a
[ *] Rank: top 1% till 10th ; top 10% in 12th
[ *] Other stats:
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): 2 National Awards(one 1st prize and 1 2nd prize) and 2 National level Finalists = all in science fair - research work; 2 Leadership competition - winner in it, 3 Published Research, Patents, Summer Jobs and work at a company, investment offers, 15 EDX courses, few architectural Designs, 3 Animator and some research ideas(experiment on way)
[ *] Essays: they’ll be good!
[ *] Teacher Recs: great
[ *] Counselor Rec: excellent
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): none</p>
<p>[ *] State or Country: India
[ *] School Type: Private
[ *] Ethnicity: Asian
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: Weakness - SAT Scores, Strength - Research Work (Its pretty awesome, can guarantee it, par with Top engg colgs in my country )
[ *] Other Factors/questions: I am great innovator, creative and never give up. I don’t have anything in sports or arts. </p>
<p>@frake53 It seems they did restart re-calculating GPA a few years ago silently. The admission office is telling people they recalculate GPA currently.</p>
<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): I’d like to try for the CoE… But I guess I’m not as confident as I’d like to be…
[ *] SAT: N/A
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): N/A
[ *] ACT: 31
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.92
[ *] Rank: N/A
[ *] Other stats:
-mostly honors/humanities courses freshman and sophomore year
-all IB all the time junior and senior year
-I go to a renowned inner-city magnet school.
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
-Allstate experience on two instruments: jazz guitar and orchestral/concert trombone (1st in the state for guitar and 3rd for trombone)
-tons of other extra-curricular music stuff, ranging from jazz choir to symphony orchestra(s)
-over 100 hours of logged community service
-I build guitars for fun… Idk where that could get me… maybe something to write about on the common app…
[ *] Essays: I’m a good writer, and I dig the U of M prompts!
[ *] Teacher Recs: hopefully gonna be sweet
[ *] Counselor Rec: …can’t say…
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.):
-I’m in-state! As I understand it, that’s huge around here!!!
[ *) Location/Person: Grand Rapids/Me
[ *] State or Country: Michigan
[ *] School Type: public inner-city magnet school
[ *] Ethnicity: White 
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength/weakness:
Good stuff:
-I’m a good writer; I can communicate my ideas effectively. The preceding point may not be made evident by this post, but it’s true, guys…
-When I find something I enjoy learning about (civil engineering!!!) I find that I obsess… Then, I gobble up all of the information I can get about said something…
-My extra-curriculars are great, but they aren’t very diverse. maybe a jack of all trades vs. one trade scenario?
Bad stuff:
-My ACT score isn’t good enough to be much of a benefit (even though it’s in the freaking 98th percentile in my state ugh), though I suppose it’s also not really bad enough to be a detriment…
The only B’s I’ve ever had have been in history… History is a core subject, so I guess if they recalculate my GPA it’ll go down a bit (assuming they count history as core).
[ *] Other Factors/questions:
Do I have a good shot at the CoE? And, sorry I’m so basic, but can I apply to multiple colleges within U of M?
Should I retake the ACT in September?</p>
<p>@billcsho do you know if they include freshman year when they recalculate?</p>
<p>@frake53 when I did the tour this year, they told us that they include freshman year and all electives when recalculating GPA</p>
<p>So they basically just unweight it? (That makes me so happy.)</p>
<p>Background:
Indian Male
Interested in Engineering</p>
<p>SAT I:
M:790
CR:680
WR: 700
Composite: 2170 (Two Sittings)</p>
<p>SAT II:
Physics: 800
Maths Level 2: 800
Chemistry:790</p>
<p>AP:
Calc BC 5/5
Physics Mechanics: 5/5
MacroEconomics: 5/5
Chemistry 4/5
Environmental Science: 4/5</p>
<p>School Grades:
Grade 9th and 10th CGPA: 10/10
Grade 11th 89/100
Rank: Top 5%</p>
<p>ECs:
President of Maths Club - Participated and won Mathematics competitions as part of Math Team of school.
Vice President of Computer Club - Organised inter-school competition in which 20+ schools participated.
Part of School Cabinet
Participated and won several inter school competitions in Video Editing/Digital Presentations/Digital Imaging etc.
Internships: NGO (5 months), Energy Company (3 Weeks)
Came 3rd in NASA competition
Member of Environment Club of school
Other organisational stuff.</p>
<p>Honors:
Awarded Junior Science Talent Search Examination scholarship (Govt. competition)
Good ranks in other national Olympiads.
GOLD Medalist in school(For excellent academic record).
AP Scholar with distinction etc.</p>
<p>@Skylark1 Wow! Your extracurriculurs, awards, and interests show passion for engineering. Your SAT is solid, and your gpa (converted to 4 point scale) is a 3.853/4 If your essays are good you are definitely going to be admitted. Lol dude, no offense, but shouldn’t you be applying for like northwestern or some other amazing school? You’re a little above it ;)</p>
<p>@whatfreak123 For one, he is not guaranteed to get in regardless of the strength of his essays. His stats are about average for the CoE. When you factor in that he is an international student, his odds decrease considerably. Also, you assume that Northwestern has a better engineering program, however, UofM is a top 10 engineering school and Northwestern is not. UofM is ranked in the top 10 in 10 specialty areas. Northwestern is only ranked in the top 10 in 2 specialty areas.</p>
<p>@whatfreak123 Northwestern may be more competitive than UMich as the admission rate is lower, but it does not mean it is better in engineering. Indeed, my D pick UMich over NU even they provide pretty good financial aid.
@Skylark1 What is your uwGPA? I do not see any grade on your post except for AP scores. Also, what are your single sit SAT scores? UMich does not superscore. Anyway, your superscore is around admission average, however, the admission rate this year is ~20%. As an international student, your chance is probably not higher than admission average.</p>
<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): Ross
[ *] SAT: N/A
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): Math 2 - 800, Chem - 740, Math 1 - 750, USH - 730, Bio- 670
[ *] ACT: 32, retaking
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.85
[ *] Rank: N/A
[ *] Other stats: all honors/ AT classes, very difficult hs, nationally ranked
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): leader of two charities, class president for three years and in charge of all committees for the last year, honor society tutor, private tutor, harvard leadership ambassador for two years
[ *] Essays: 9 or 10
[ *] Teacher Recs: one is a 10+ one is prob a 9
[ *] Counselor Rec: 10+
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): legacy
[ *) Location/Person: NY
[ *] State or Country: NY
[ *] School Type: suburb school
[ *] Ethnicity: white
[ *] Gender: male
[ *] major strength/weakness: ecs are really good, weakness is my gpa but when looking at the breakdown from class to class, i get like one B+ in either math or english (math because it’s the highest level possible for anyone in my grade, and because i suck at english)</p>