For engineering, the TechDay in October would be a better visiting time. I agree that the gender may help the chance in CoE. There were 3 undergraduate students from ND last year. As long as there are more than 1 from each state so that it covers the map, they do not really really need to give much advantage from minority states. There were 8 states with less than 10 students for all undergraduates too. Wyoming has only 2. That means there was none from there for at least 2 years.
A few years ago my son received a scholarship (Tucker Memorial) that is for geographic dispursion, and we are from MN. So I would think ND would help even more. @hb7901, you will have a very good chance. Put strong effort into your essay.
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[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA (Computer Science) and Ross Pre-Admit
[ *] SAT: None
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): None
[ *] ACT: 35
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 4.0
[ *] Rank: No Rank
[ *] Other stats: Full Honors and AP course load
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
Sports:
- Tennis (9 - 12); Varsity (10 - 12); Captain (11 - 12)
- Soccer (9 - 12); Varsity (10 - 12); Captain (12)
Clubs:
- Finance Club (9 - 12); President (12)
- Co-Founded Programming Club (10 - 12); Vice-President (10 - 12)
Other:
- Founded a local charity my sophomore year that raised over $15,000 for the homeless over 2 years
- Started my own local tennis company in Junior Year that employs 4 part time instructors; I make $1000/month now
[ *] Essays: Haven’t Written Yet (Predict they will be good)
[ *] Teacher Recs: Excellent
[ *] Counselor Rec: Solid
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): None
[ *) Location/Person:
[ *] State or Country: Connecticut
[ *] School Type: Small Private
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: Entrepreneurial Activities
[ *] Other Factors/questions: How hard is it to get into Ross as a Pre-Admit? Do I have a chance?
Where do I even begin?
First of all, I may have a very unique background compared to others. I just moved here to the US from the Philippines three months ago (permanent resident). I already graduated HS three years ago and had two years of college in a top 3 university in my country (Civil Engineering-our university had the toughest program for this also). But now I’m attending a community college here in Louisiana (I’m still 19 btw) and shifted my major to Business so I’m back to being a freshman. I also plan to transfer to one of the schools I’ve mentioned above next fall.
HS Senior Creds:
GPA:91/98 (3.75 on your scale)
Rank: 3rd out of 130 (our valedictorian had a 92/98 GPA)
DIWA medal of excellence in English (a nationwide publication award and is considered prestigious given that English is not our first language)
Batch President
Editor-in-chief of our HS paper
English Club President
Main Proponent & Organizer of our JS Prom after a 9 year hiatus
Basically those are the only major things I could remember from my HS. There wasn’t much 'cause our school was ran by Franciscan nuns so we didn’t get much exposure. 
but I think my college creds could make up for it…
GPA (until sophomore): 3.2 on your scale (THIS IS MY BIGGEST WORRY. However, I do hope they consider how rigorous our curriculum is since we have 25-28 units per semester.)
Freshman:
Civil Engineering Council Batch Representative
Association of Civil Engineering Students member
Dean’s Lister
Vocalist representative for our college
Sophomore:
Supreme Student Council (SSC) Councilor (we govern 20,000 students)
Main Proponent, Student Ecological Movement
Co-Proponent, Magna Carta for Students’ Rights
Co-Proponent, Conglomeration of Students Organization
Co-Proponent, USC-Youth Day
Co-Proponent, Think Pink (attempted to break a Guinness world Record for the largest Pink Ribbon formation)
Co-Proponent, Week of Welcome
Co-Proponent, IDiscount
Marketing & Advertising Head, Warrior’s Run
Program-Tech Head, Carolinian Summit
Sponsorship Head, U-Nite (party for a cause)
Logistics Head, Students’ Night
Props Committee Head, University Musicale (Disney)
Campaign Manager, TINGOG Carolinian Party
Speech & Management Trainer, TINGOG Carolinian Party
Head Officer, CE Council
Logistics Head, CE Games
Assistant Secretary, ACES
Program Head, CE Acquaintance Party
Volunteer, Make A Difference Day (along with Australian volunteers)
Volunteer, Tulong Kabataan
Volunteer, Help for Typhoon Haiyan Victims (I was also a victim of this btw lol)
Volunteer, Tabang ta Carolinians!
So yeah, that’s basically it. Now, supposing I can maintain a 4.0 GPA this acad year (I’m taking Calc I, French I, Composition I, Intro to Macroeconomics, & Intro to Business and will follow the suggested courses to transfer by UPenn for the next semester), get a 2100-2200 on SAT (we didn’t have this in our country so I’m still taking it this November & December. I KNOOOOW!), get a great recommendation from my professors (I’m thinking of getting them from my Calc & Macroeconomics professors because they have PHDs, but my Composition professor loves me so HELP), and do well on my Common App essays, what are my chances?
Also, I chose those schools because they give huge grants or at least some very good deals for loans (my FAFSA-EFC is 0). And idk if I should also put in my essay how poor we really are. And by poor, I mean third-world country poor walking to-and-from school back in my country, and my mom & I currently live in a trailer (which I tell you is an IMPROVEMENT to our house in the Philippines). A lot of people had already told me that I’m never going to get accepted in any of those schools and I know it’s such a far stretch but still, I’m in USA where dreams could really happen.
I really hope to hear from you guys!
[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA
[ *] SAT: 1900 SS; 1860 REG However for those I did not prep at all and will be properly taking it this November aiming for ~2100
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent):
[ *] ACT: Will take in Dec
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.7
[ *] Rank: Top 10% of graduating class of ~900 students
[ *] Other stats:
- AP CS (Score: 4)
- Precalculus (College Accredited)
- Digital Art & Design (College Accredited)
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
- Led a team of teenagers to build a mock company, develop a product and push to market over the summer. Won Audience Choice Award.
- Attended several hackathons over the past 3 years.
- Hosting a fairly large (80-150 attendees) next year with possible sponsorship from companies like Deloitte, Twilio, - SendGrid, C4Q, Venmo and Nationwide Bandwidth.
- Cofounded a company near the end of junior year that has been gaining some traction lately.
- Part of the school’s Robotics team, designed the robot and competed with other schools as part of the FIRST competition.
- Adobe certified for Photoshop and Illustrator.
- Part of school’s chapter of MOUSE Squad, helping the IT staff handle issues around the school.
- Volunteered for Red Cross for a short while.
- Will graduate early in Jan’16 instead of June’16 and intern @ Goldman Sachs
[ *] Essays: Pretty Good
[ *] Teacher Recs: In high favor
[ *] Counselor Rec: Above average
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.):
[ *] Location/Person: NYC
[ *] State or Country: NY, USA
[ *] School Type: Public High School
[ *] Ethnicity: Asian (Pakistani-American)
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: Strong ECs, essays and recommendations.
[ *] Other Factors/questions:
- Immigrated to the US almost 5 years ago from Pakistan.
- Enrolled in an above avg. public high school in NYC
- First generation college applicant
- Family income <30k
Taking the test twice would not be counted as no prep at all. Anyway, it is not smart to take the test without prep even for the first time while you did that twice. Your uwGPA is around or below the 25th percentile (average is 3.85 while the 75th percentile is near 4.0). Your current test SAT score (SS or not, UMich does not SS anyway) is far below the 25th percentile. Being from OOS with far below average GPA and test score, it would be a rather high reach for you.
Going for computer science–
ACT: 35C (33E, 34R, 35S, 36M)
UWGPA: 3.63, WGPA 4.02, class rank - don’t ask!! Lots of Bs while playing football in 9th and 10th, quit all sports to focus on school and had a 4.8 GPA junior year with 4 APs. Taking 7 APs this year. Essay addresses this. Hoping for that holistic review kind of thing.
2 summer programs involving computer science - college classes for credit (comp sci 111, cybersecurity engineering), 4.0 in each, also did Harvard CS50 online.
Main hobby/EC is programming games on massive multiplayer site (roblox). Latest game, launched in July, has had 930,000 players so far.
A few other ECs, nothing major. OOS (TN), public HS, WM.
Not well rounded, but clearly focused and “passionate” about CS…
@s16s18s21s25 That GPA is going to hurt your chance, a good upward trend helps though. For CS major, try LSA instead of CoE. You will have better chance there.
[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): engineering
[ *] SAT: 2260 (M: 800 CR: 700 W: 760)
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): M2: 800 Physics: 800
[ *] ACT: N/A
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: Probably around 3.7
[ *] Rank: N/A
[ *] Other stats: N/A
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): 7 week IT internship, president of public speaking club, robotics, several good results in math competitions and also some more minor ones
[ *] Essays: Probably above average, as I have pretty good writing skills (in my opinion)
[ *] Teacher Recs: Great
[ *] Counselor Rec: Great
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): N/A
[ *) Location/Person: NY
[ *] State or Country: California
[ *] Ethnicity: Asian
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: Str: test scores, recommendations weakness: GPA
[ *] Other Factors/questions: can pay without any aid?
@Yummy44 How is your course rigor? I assume it to be very rigor as most Asian from CA and NY are. Your GPA is a little bit low. The admission average is 3.9 for CoE. Your SAT is within the mid 50 and above average. It would still be a low reach for you due to the low admission rate and mediocre GPA.
Sorry I should correct my GPA to 3.85. Course is very rigorous.
@Yummy44 It is still a low reach for you with GPA 3.85. The admission average for CoE is 3.9. With both GPA and test score around average from OOS, the chance would be around or below the CoE admission rate.
[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): Engineering or LSA (change for both pls)
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): math II: 800 USH: 760
[ *] ACT: 34 (E: 35 M: 33 R: 34 S: 35 and waiting on writing)
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.98
[ *] Rank: No Rank
[ *] Other stats:
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): Nothing much: 300-400 hours volunteering at a hospital (worked with equipment), IT internship, Math Tutor, Treasurer of American Red Cross, & VP of Technology Club
[ *] Essays: decent
[ *] Teacher Recs: good
[ *] Counselor Rec: average
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.):
[ *) Location/Person:
[ *] State or Country: California
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: Black
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: Grades/test scores strength? Weaknesses probably extracurriculars
[ *] Other Factors/questions:
@LordBendtner LSA would be a high match while CoE would be a low reach to reach.
[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA
[ *] SAT: n/a
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): 800 Math II, 800 USH, 740 Biology
[ *] ACT: 35 C
35E/35M/35R/36S
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 4.0
[ *] Rank: Top 10% (we rank by decile)
[ *] Other stats:
Course load-
Freshman Year:
Global History 9H
Geometry H
English 9H
Biology H
French 2
Random art classes
Sophomore Year:
Global History 10H
Algebra 2/Trig H
English 10H
Chemistry 10H
French 3
Latin 1
Junior Year:
APUSH (5)
UHS Physics
English 11H
Precalculus H
French 4
Business Law
Senior Year:
AP Government/Eco H
AP English Lit & Comp
AP French
AP Calculus BC
AP Biology
AP Statistics
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
Too lazy to write them out in detail but I do competitive figure skating which takes up almost all of my afternoons, I teach Learn to Skate, I do a club, and volunteering.
[ *] Essays: I have no idea
[ *] Teacher Recs: Should be all right, but I go to a fairly large school so teachers generally all have a lot of letters to write so no idea how much time they’ll spend writing mine
[ *] Counselor Rec: Generic
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): None
[ *) Location/Person:
[ *] State or Country: New York
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: Asian
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] major strength/weakness:
Strengths-test scores
Weaknesses-weak ECs
[ *] Other Factors/questions:
@emilyskates It should be a high match to match for you. You are a qualified OOS applicant and your chance should be far higher the admission rate (which is 26% this year and ~20% for OOS, the trend is going down though).
[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA biology, preferred-ross
[ *] SAT (one sitting):none
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): no SAT subject…AP Scores— APUSH-5, bio-4, lang-4, enviro-5, macro-5, micro-5
[ *] ACT: 33 (english: 34, math:31 (highest 32), reading: 32, science: 36)
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.93
[ *] Course load (# of AP/IB/H, special courses, etc.): 9 AP, 1 IB, 7H
[ *] Rank: None
[ *] Other stats:
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): very involved in playing tennis at an extremely high level, 52 wks/ 20 hrs per week, working teaching tennis to kids, some volunteering
[ *] Essays: Common App (ok), U-M supplement (extraordinary)
[ *] Teacher Recs: good
[ *] Counselor Rec: very good
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): none
[ *) Location/Person: ?
[ *] State or Country: Columbus, Ohio
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: M
[ *] major strength/weakness: rigor, GPA, supplements, ACT, EC’s, no weaknesses stand out
[ *] Other Factors/questions:
@hulk2318 Ross pre-admit is always a reach due to the low admission rate and competitive candidates. For LSA, it should be a very high match to low reach for you from OOS. Your ACT score is well balanced and slightly above admission average. Your GPA is good and so is the course rigor too.
[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA Biomolecular Science (premed) or Kinseology movement science double majored with Biomolecular Science (premed)
[ *] SAT (one sitting):none
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): no SAT subject
[ *] ACT: 31 english: 29, math:30, reading: 33, science: 33)
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: Don’t know how to convert but off my schools scale it is 3.76 out of 4.0
[ *] Course load (# of AP/IB/H, special courses, etc.): 11 AP, 8H
[ *] Rank: Top 12%
[ *] Other stats:
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
ECs: Volunteering at hospital
Volunteering at Physical therapy center
Varsity Wrestling 3 years
Work at Doctors Office
Tutoring Service
DECA Vice President
Special Circumstances: Mom had brain cancer freshman year
I had surgery five times throughout high school
Diagnosed with stage 3 leukemia senior year
Had both legs amputated
[ *] Essays: Common App (good), U-M supplement (great)
[ *] Teacher Recs: great
[ *] Counselor Rec: average
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): Legacy- Both Grandparents, mother, aunt, uncle, and cousin have all gone there. Grandparents have their own Scholarship there.
[ *) Location/Person: ?
[ *] State or Country: Loudoun county Virginia
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: M
[ *] major strength: rigor, EC’s, essay, legacy
Weaknesses: GPA due to extreme circumstances
[ *] Other Factors/questions: Where should I put my circumstances and hook within the application?