<p>Here are two interesting videos involving Craig. He was somehow implicated - or thought he might be - in a page scandal in the 80s. He was so worried about being named, that he made a public denial. I guess he was accustomed already to the gossip about his sexual orientation. </p>
<p><a href=“http://bigheaddc.com/2007/08/28/sen-craigs-prior-role-in-male-teen-sex-drug-scandal/[/url]”>http://bigheaddc.com/2007/08/28/sen-craigs-prior-role-in-male-teen-sex-drug-scandal/</a></p>
<p>AM, I’m afraid you better get back to Google. Your source proved nothing about what CGM alleges. The fact that he supported DoMA puts him in the same company as 85 US Senators and 345 members of Congress and Bill Clinton. According to Dem chairman Dean, it is the official position of the Democratic party. Unless you want to indict all of them as hating gays for this vote, I’d say that you, or CGM or Sam Lee have more homework to do.</p>
<p>Of course it’s easier to take the lazy man approach that Sam Lee confesses to and just tar someone based on hypothesis (and of course, party affiliation).</p>
<p>Just because I said I wouldn’t be surprised he did something more than just opposing gay marriage doesn’t mean I think or “hypothesize” he did that. It doesn’t really matter to me and therefore I didn’t bother to look.</p>
<p>What I did hear is he rigourously denied he’s gay as if he’s awfully ashamed of being one.</p>
<p>Ahhh, got it … the old “I wouldn’t be surprised” method of tarring someone. That way you always leave an out which you have taken. Nice move, but no sale here.</p>
<p>The hypocrite needs no tarring. The difference between him and the Democrats who supported (and still support) the DMA (SHAME on them) is that most of them don’t have anonymous gay sex in public restrooms, get caught at it, and plead guilty to the charge.</p>
<p>When hypocrisy becomes a crime or reason to resign, then we should look at the masters of hypocrisy in the Dem party - like those who lecture us on global warming and then have carbon footprints that make Bigfoot look like a dwarf. Or those like Al Gore and the rest who beat the drums for war and then try to pass themselves off as peace activists.</p>
<p>Well, I should hope he didn’t! And drat, two hours in Iowa could have been enough for a divorce and a new wedding for him!</p>
<p>But I don’t think Republicans generally speaking have come out against gay sex in bathrooms either, and I guess that should be seen in a positive light. ;)</p>
<p>“we should look at the masters of hypocrisy in the Dem party - like those who lecture us on global warming and then have carbon footprints that make Bigfoot look like a dwarf.”</p>
<p>examples please.</p>
<p>Way to change the subject, FF. We aren’t talking about global warming. We were specifically talking about a guy who speaks out and votes against rights for gay people, and then has anonymous gay sex in public bathrooms. </p>
<p>That is the hypocrisy…don’t deflect to other Democrats’ hypocrisy, of which there is plenty. We were only speaking of this particular very Family Value friendly Senator’s hypocrisy! Remember, he got high marks from all the social conservatives, for his voting pattern…wonder how they are feeling about him right about now…doesn’t matter though, since he is leaving…</p>
<p>I didn’t think Republicans even countenanced the possibility of global warming.</p>
<p>The hypocrisy of Democrats about global warming has NOTHING to do with their carbon footprints. It has to do with their POLICIES of sending polluting jobs overseas, NAFTA, WTO, and so-called “free trade”, kicking millions of people off their land in Central America and Mexico and then complaining that, duh, immigrants are crossing the borders, and supporting World Bank efforts that pollute water and air for tens of millions.</p>
<p>Al Gore is responsible for more global warming than any single American in the 20th or 21st Century, but it has absolutely nothing to do with his house.</p>
<p>No it has to do with Gore’s hot air and his invention of the internet.</p>
<p>The Craig thing does give the Dems a little problem, lest they make too much hay over gay bashing. Better to characterize it as hypocrit bashing. </p>
<p>And with this newfound info about bathroom etiquette, I’m going to have to be careful of my nervous ticks, and be super careful not to drop anything I’d like to keep…lest I be tempted to reach for it and be charged with disorderly conduct. </p>
<p>On the subject of hypocrisy, I’ll nominate all those who would be screaming about the police and entrapment if this were anyone but a republican officeholder. Seriously, tapping his foot, looking into the stall (no chance that he might have been checking to see if its occupied)…this policeman and department would have a team of investigators going after him and the accused would be invited for a photo op with Barney Frank.</p>
<p>And I’d like for whomever provided the archived Craig clips (see post 121) from the nightly news broadcasts 26 years ago to dig up a few of the democrats in the mid nineties kvetching “…but Saddam Hussein is still in power, isn’t he”. There literally should be dozens to choose from if access to media archives is open.</p>
<p>^^Another dead-ender reporting back from his alternate universe.</p>
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<p>“No it has to do with Gore’s hot air and his invention of the internet.”</p>
<p>Gore never claimed that. </p>
<p>This is a perfect example of right wingers twisting reality to make hipocritic points.</p>
<p>Us poor folks have already made up our minds. . Likewise, the Senate’s Republican Leadership has made up their minds and to further to strip Craig of his positions. Keeping Craig in any discussion only further makes the GOP look foolish.</p>
<p>“Way to change the subject, FF. We aren’t talking about global warming. We were specifically talking about a guy who speaks out and votes against rights for gay people, and then has anonymous gay sex in public bathrooms.”</p>
<p>As long as you feel compelled to police the discussion, let me remind you that you were going going to try to make the case for Craig being guilty of promoting hatred of gays. How are you doing on that one?</p>
<p>“this policeman and department would have a team of investigators going after him and the accused would be invited for a photo op with Barney Frank.”</p>
<p>Barney Frank happens to be a happily married man - and married under the same law as every heterosexual married in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. </p>
<p>The Republicans are pretty desperate, though. They are presiding over a failed government - not the democratically elected Maliki government - but the sub-democratically elected Bush one. They haven’t met any of their own “benchmarks” - on capturing Osama, stabilizing Iraq and grabbing their oil revenue and having the Iraqis pay for the hostile, aggressive occupation, Social Security reform, immigration reform, permanent tax cuts for the rich - you can go down the list, and it is a failed government on its own terms.</p>
<p>Larry Craig is a “representative of the Republican Party”, says Pete Hoekstra. I think they do better with him as the front man than the current yo-yo. (The so-called entrapment issue is a well settled point of law, one that made it all the way up to the Supreme Court - which refused to hear it. It ain’t.)</p>
<p>(I wish Gore had just stuck to inventing the Internet rather being the point man for shipping polluting industries to the Third World, and beating the drumbeat for war in Iraq in 1998.)</p>
<p>As nearly as I can tell the main difference between the Dems and the Republicans is the Republicans force their deviants to resign. Soliciting sex from strangers in restrooms, parks, or the Oval Offfice simply is not acceptable behaviour for a public official nor is running a prostitution ring out of your house (Barney Frank) acceptable.</p>
<p>BTW when you keep a fellow on the side is “taking a mistress” or “taking a mister”? Whichever public officials should conduct their sex lives in their bedrooms or the Notell Motel. If I want to watch people having sex I’ll download porn from the internet.</p>
<p>Glad to see you defending Craig, “representative of the Republican Party.”</p>