The Road to War: USA versus Iran?

<p>I see by far the biggest threat from Pakistan. Couple of disloyal military generals, coupled with some Taliban, and some religious fundamentalists, and a bullet is in Musharraf’s head, and they have nucula weapons.</p>

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<p>I’d say it’s about a draw accounting for differences in timing, but, of course, but YMMV. Saddam was as great a threat to the region on the whole (more strategic positioned, proven willingness to use his power against his neighbors, all that) and he was as hungry after WMDs at the end as he was in the beginning. Within a year of lifting sanctions, he was more than capable of reconstituting his chemical and biological weapons programs and this nukes were probably only 5 years out. If you don’t believe recent stories that there were 20,000 Iraqi nuclear weapons specialists working on the “Libyan” nuclear program up until Qaddafi gave it up. That might have cut his lead time dramatically if true. Facinating statistic particularly given the timing of Qaddafi giving everything over to the US, don’t you think?</p>

<p>No knowledgable analyst believes the US is going to nuke Iran or has serious plans to. I’m including the author of the article that started this thread in that assessment, btw.</p>

<p>“Should we invade Iran? No.
Will we? Probably.
Should we use nukes? HELL ****ING NO
Will we use nukes? A part of me is saying yes, but I pray to everything holy that I’m wrong.”</p>

<p>Invading Iraq wont have the same effect on the Muslim world as invading Iran. Iraq was controlled by a baathist,secular regime…as opposed to Iran’s fundamentalist mullahs who would undoubtedly rile up Muslims everywhere in a worldwide resistance movement</p>

<p>“Iran is a very tough country. Its unwise to underestimate them.”</p>

<p>thats so true. even saddam with his Western backing, and superior weaponry couldnt beat Iran</p>

<p>theoretically we can beat Iran by dropping multiple nukes, but god damnit it’s a bad idea</p>

<p>Strick, Bush was itching to invade Iraq from before 9/11. He and the rest of the neocons’ agenda has been crystal clear from day one.</p>

<p>Iran is on the list, as is Syria. While you may believe that nothing militarily or nuclearly will happen with the US and Iran, that pesky little document…the PNAC…has the game plan all neatly laid out for us.</p>

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<p>Its interesting that the Iranian people are more united than the Iraqis. The overwhelming majority share their hatred for USA and are quite willing to fight them. Add to that, the Iranian president is an extremely dangerous and bold man.</p>

<p>MoMissle, where did you get your information that Iraqis hate Americans? THe iraqi people I mean. Surveys do not support your claim</p>

<p>From all I have heard, many many Iraqi PEOPLE like Americans’ -our culture, our way of life, so your statement is pretty bold and a bit old</p>

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<p>I was talking about the Irani people.</p>

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<p>The last I heard the neocons are essentially out of favor with the Administration and there’s no real danger of what you describe. You can continue to believe it if you want, but until I see some movement on that list from the Strategy Page (and a couple of other little points), I won’t be holding my breath expecting an attack.</p>

<p>Iran is slowly breaking. People in the inner circle of the government are starting to distance themselves from the President A[i can’t spell his name]. The youth in Iran is starting to get restless.</p>

<p>Iran isn’t listening to the UN. Incase you haven’t noticed, they’ve been playing games for quite awhile you. The leader of the Arab League said all Arab countries should obtain nuclear power (you know, for peaceful reasons…). Iran’s President has been quoted as saying the world will only last 2 to 3 more years.</p>

<p>Something is going to happen, and it’s going to happen pretty soon. You shouldn’t be looking at the US, you should be looking at Israel.</p>

<p>I had a conversation about the draft with my son at dinner the other night. I think it will happen if we invade one more country. Don’t forget the sabre-rattling that Korea has been doing.</p>

<p>The more that Bush’s actions fall into disapproval with the public and the lower his ratings go, the more parents of senior boys shut off contact with recruiters. Acquaintances of mine that have supported Bush’s Christian right stance and supported invading Iraq in the beginning have been among the first to eliminate contact from recruiters. It’s amazing to me how vehement they are about it. So to whoever it was that said the Republicans wouldn’t institute a draft because they don’t want their children to go, I say you’re partially right. It’s not just Republican leaders that want all the other unfortunates to go, it’s also many who vote Republican. Unfortunately, the numbers will speak for themselves and when the military gets stretched too thin, the draft will be seen as the only thing that will keep the house of cards from falling.</p>

<p>As for now, my son is planning for his college junior year. I have told him to work hard and not waste time and just maybe his college studies will conclude before they’re interrupted.</p>

<p>“Iran is slowly breaking. People in the inner circle of the government are starting to distance themselves from the President A[i can’t spell his name]. The youth in Iran is starting to get restless.”</p>

<p>Old news. They’ll have another democratic election, and if they don’t like the current government head, they’ll kick him out and vote in another one, with policies much more different from the current administration than our Democrats have from our Republicans. That’s how they have done it, consistently, over the past 25 years.</p>

<p>The current nuclear policy was started by the PREVIOUS government, under Khatami. They understand full well that they are surrounded by hostile U.S. combat forces, recently used in combat, on both sides, and a U.S. Administration that is out of control, given to propaganda, attempted assassinations, support of military coups, support of dictators, and of military drug lords in the country next door. The Iranians may need decide they don’t like Ahmenidajad - if they don’t, they’ll elect someone else.</p>

<p>But they know who the real threat is.</p>

<p>But now the main question is: Are we ready to be Drafted?
I mean we have our whole college life ahead of us, Do we really want to fight a war?
How does parents feel about letting their 18 yrs be drafted into war?
Where does the line between Patriotism and Reality divide?
I mean its such a glory to die for your country to save your loved ones, but in reality are we motivated to act on upon this action?
IS PROPAGANDA OUR WORST ENEMY?</p>

<p>We would have no problem defeating the Iranian military. The liberal news media wants you to have the idea that Iran is militarily superior. The American military is by far the most powerful in the world and will not have a problem. </p>

<pre><code>Iran has engaged nuclear activity in the country, and must be stopped.

We should not, however, use nuclear weapons on them. They have nuclear weapons capabilites as well, and by doing so would give them justification to use their own. The free world and the US wil be victorious. GOD SPEED!
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<p>^^ thats the American Dream
Iran is ready to use nuclear weapons on us… They hate us and they always hate us. Im sorry if my history is off a little, but in the last days of President Carter, he was faced with Iran-American hostage situation. At that time before the elections, Reagen said something along the lines of “if i come to power I will enter Iran and free the hostages”…and the minute it was announced that Reagen won, the hostages were released…that was when Iran was not powerful</p>

<p>But now Iran is very powerful…Last week it was relasead that Iran just created special type of missiles that can dodge radars.
<a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/05/iran.missile.ap/index.ht[/url]”>http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/05/iran.missile.ap/index.ht&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>In WW2 we thought the same about Japan, that they had no chance against us…yet after four years the war was still continuing and we had to drop the atomic bomb to stop</p>

<p>Dont Let the American Pride Bloat Your Head
If we do loose, then Nuke everyone</p>

<p>I believe that we lost the Vietnam War because of a lack of American pride. Pride is an important factor.</p>

<p><<We would have no problem defeating the Iranian military. The liberal news media wants you to have the idea that Iran is militarily superior. The American military is by far the most powerful in the world and will not have a problem.</p>

<p>Iran has engaged nuclear activity in the country, and must be stopped.>></p>

<p>Justinian, how do you look in desert camo? Not to be flippant, but bravado is best left to those ready to pack their gear and head into harm’s way.</p>

<p>If I am drafted into the military, I will have no hesitation. I am proud to be an American and at least I know I am free.</p>

<p>We were also told that Iraq would be easy, that we would catch Bin laden, there is no civil war in Iraq, we would be welcomed with open arms and that it was over already</p>

<p>We disarmed the Iraqi military…and look at the mess now…more people killed every day…the Iraqi people getting more and more frustrated, a government in disarray</p>

<p>And at this point the Iranian people like America, you think they would like us so much if we bombed them? </p>

<p>And do some reading about WW!! and the bomb. not saying it should or should not have been done, but its not so cut and dry as portrayed in the history books and the movies</p>