The Rutgers Indecent, but the other way

<p>^^^^Get serious 07Dad. The girl is not going to jail for having sex, for revealing she had sex, or rating her sex partners.</p>

<p>I know this is snarky but I couldn’t keep from chuckling. I found this in the comment section of JustOneMinute, a blog on typepad.com. Please especially note the last item ;)!</p>

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<p>See now, it was resume building! Would that be considered an extreme EC?</p>

<p>Has no one heard of Tucker Max, another Duke alum, and his book “I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell”? Maybe he was inspiration for this young woman?</p>

<p>I wonder if the guys who received a ranking of 12 out of 10 are complaining? I think there were more baseball players than lacrosse players. I don’t want any of you to think that I looked at it or anything.</p>

<p>I’ll confess – I spent way too much time reading it.</p>

<p>Nrdsb4–if you read the report Karen repeatedly discusses oral sex. If any of those boys have connections with the powers-that-be, NC makes that particular “rating system” a felony for her. </p>

<p>Yep, some of these guys apparently had a serious sexual “A” game. She didn’t slam everyone.</p>

<p>Not sure if the law has caught up with all of the technological possibilities, but counldn’t this be considered a form of sexual harrassment? I would think that the young men involved could argue that her publication has had a negative impact on their ability to pursue their education at this institution. I’m sure they’re getting much more attention, not in a good way, since the publication - even more so given the history of Blue Devil LaCrosse, which the author was well aware of.</p>

<p>There is no way that any young woman spent 42 pages of powerpoint time creating a document for her three friends to read - that’s a locker room at the spa conversation not a major media production. I’d bet those three friends were hand picked for their inclination to spread the word, the author gets her 15 minutes of scandal fame and she gets to feign innocence.</p>

<p>I hope those guys sue her; it seems legal consequences are the only thing that can inspire many of today’s youth to refrain from acting in an uncivilized manner.</p>

<p>admit havent read the whole thread…but i believe if a guy had done this same thing with girls, there would be a bit more outrage on here. guys can be just as embarassed as women with this information being posted… and why is anyone doing a “thesis” on this??? remember it was ONE girl and many guys. sure she has a right to have sex with as many men as she wants but she has no right to make it public.</p>

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<p>Is that true? Is it really legally or ethically wrong to “make it public”? I’m speaking of consenting adults only. </p>

<p>I don’t know the answer, just wondering out loud.</p>

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<p>Please, the only thing that will be impacted is the hooking up possibilities of those who got less than stellar reviews. </p>

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<p>I’m pretty sure my parents and others of my generation thought that we acted in an “uncivilzed manner” back in the 60’s and 70’s, yet we are all functioning, “civilized” adults. Other than putting her exploits out there, I’m not sure what the big deal is. Go on Facebook or Myspace, and you will see things that make her power point look like a project to be turned in for a Catholic High School project. The only thing that makes this stand out is that she is from Duke. Substitute Duke for directional state U, and nobody cares.</p>

<p>^^ MySpace and Facebook - shining examples of cultural deterioration.</p>

<p>pmk, that’s an interesting question. Is it “wrong”? I don’t know. Is what she did unseemly? I absolutely think so. I know that if I was back in college I wouldn’t want my sexual partners to rate me and disseminate that information. Did people “talk” in the ancient days when I was in college? Sure. But there wasn’t the ability to easily spread that information worldwide.</p>

<p>pmk…if you or i had sex with another consenting individual…then i or you published the name of the person we had sex with, without their consent… wouldnt that be wrong?</p>

<p>or if one of our sons had sex with someone and then posted about that person and rated their sexual “ability” would we think that was right? or vice versa…if they had sex with someone who then posted our son’s names all over the web…would we think that was right…they were consenting people having sex</p>

<p>ga2012mom…unfortunately in a twisted way i agree with you… it is all over facebook etc…which takes me back to the other thread and the moral compass of ravi…i’m not absolutely sure he knew it was wrong ( i know it was wrong!)… here if a girl is posting about sexual activity …the response is whats the big deal, boys have been bragging for years etc, etc. (i know the consequences and situation were different in the rutgers case…) but seems even we as adults will excuse some behaviors…just seems alot of mixed messages. (right or wrong, i;m sure the boys at duke didnt know their names would be all over the internet and imo have as much "right’ to a sense of indignation and violation as any girl would have if it had been a boy doing this thesis) sorry but i believe women’s right’ s groups would be screaming outrage!</p>

<p>But the problem is that these guys willingly had sex with her, so they exposed themselves (no pun intended) to the consequences of their actions. Personally, I’d like to see them sue her in civil court, but I just don’t think there’s a crime here.</p>

<p>I can’t tell you how many talks I’ve had with my college freshman ds in regards to sex and how you never know what kind of crazy is out there. I hope he was listening.</p>

<p>I agree with those who think there would be far less tolerance for her behavior if she was a guy ranking the performance of a dozen female athletes. If that had been the case I think there would be universal outrage instead of “the only thing that got impacted is the hooking up possibilities of those who got less than stellar reviews”.</p>

<p>If she wanted to write a tell all expose “I slept with the team” what would the standards be in the ‘real’ publishing world? Don’t publishing companies take great pains to avoid the kind of lawsuits she may now find herself facing? The men in question had no reason to believe that their privacy was going to be violated in this way - I’m sure she didn’t begin each sexual encounter with the words “I’m writing a thesis, do you want to be one of my test subjects?”.</p>

<p>It’s shameful that a Duke education didn’t inspire this young woman to more worthwhile pursuits.</p>

<p>agree yds… i have no idea if legal problem although some posts above seem to indicate there could be… i just dont understand the “pass” on her actions with no concern for the boys</p>

<p>We can’t compare what would happen if the situation was reversed because I don’t think the Duke woman’s lacrosse or softball teams are all sleeping with one guy!</p>

<p>^^Given a youth culture that measures success through media attention, it’s only a matter of time. Somewhere in America there is a young Casanova just waiting for his youtube closeup…</p>