<p>timmy? i thought its the persons name tim + my decision whatever,i didn’t see mine at all… wait for tomorrow</p>
<p>me neither. but i’m already sad that some people got rejected, if the site is legit. :(</p>
<p>omg congrats MC99 (if these are legit!)!!!
i applied to M&T too, but I didn’t check that website in time… 
I wish I had…even if they aren’t legit…Just to see SOME decision would’ve been nice…
Anyway, i think everyone should check tmrw at 3:00 anyway to confirm.</p>
<p>wow I read all 14 pages and a part of me is glad I missed this and the other part is mad that now im even more nervous for tomorrow based on all the defers and rejects…</p>
<p>IMO i think this is real- I was actually saying yesterday I wouldnt be surprised if someone would be able to glitch the results early…</p>
<p>gluck to everyone who still doesnt know and its not the end of the world to those who were not accepted =]</p>
<p>Yeah this definitely seems real and Penn is just trying to cover for their mistake. Congrats to those accepted. Good luck to those (like me) who haven’t checked yet.</p>
<p>Btw sn3: Being deferred is completely different than being waitlisted. Being waitlisted is a final decision and school’s choose to take you off that list depending on whether or not they have enough students matriculating into their freshman class.</p>
<p>Hmm anyone know what kind of basecode Penn uses? the html cover page doesn’t tell me *<strong><em>, but it is written in the same style as the penn portal page. Penn’s excuse of a third party testing it is a perfectly legit reason. Developer’s usually put pseudo data into a database to test it. And it could be that everything was last years, but they just inserted a new column of data,like the names and the new letter. The letter you guys got could be in a different data slot…The people who got the M & T letters could be mere coincidence or their lying. I read somewhere that penn uses redhat… Of course there is a possibility that the third party really *</em></strong>ed up… either way we will know for sure tomorrow at 3. Good Luck everyone!</p>
<p>I checked earlier today and it said I was rejected. I’m praying for a miracle at 3 tomorrow but either way, life will go on.</p>
<p>Dear ******,</p>
<p>Congratulations! It gives me great pleasure to invite you to attend the University of Pennsylvania as a member of the Jerome Fisher Program in Management and Technology Class of 2013, the 257th graduating class since Benjamin Franklin founded the University in 1740.</p>
<p>We were pleased to receive an exceptionally fine group of applicants for next year’s entering class. You have my warmest personal congratulations on your outstanding achievements. We were delighted to see that you had selected Penn as your first choice for your college experience.</p>
<p>Within a few days you should receive a packet of materials concerning your matriculation to Penn. The acceptance reply card should be returned, together with the $200.00 acceptance deposit, to the Admissions Office by January 4, 2009. We do expect that your academic performance will continue throughout your senior year at the same high level you have maintained up to this point. Additional information about your matriculation, including housing registration information, will be mailed to you in April. It is important that you retain your UserID and PIN as you will need to return to this decision website in April to select your housing options.</p>
<p>I look forward to welcoming you to campus next September. Our faculty, staff and students eagerly await your arrival next fall and I am certain that your years with us will be both challenging and rewarding. In the meantime, you should not hesitate to call upon this office if we may assist you during the coming months.</p>
<p>Best wishes.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Eric J. Furda
Dean of Admissions</p>
<p>I’m glad that I didn’t check.</p>
<p>That site is a hoax.</p>
<p>TOMORROW IS D DAY!</p>
<p>ahhhhhhhhhh i was at work and missed this.</p>
<p>same here. mann im always on cc too!
but i work everyday until 7… and i come home to this.
i do believe it’s real though.</p>
<p>damn the next 16+ hours will suck</p>
<p>WOW okay so SOMEBODY had to find a hack here sooner or later
at least i didn’t get a chance to check it =P</p>
<p>LOL the hour-long period they were up was probably the only time this week I wasn’t on CC (frickin’ The Office with uber-cute Jon Krasinsky (worst spelling you will ever see)).</p>
<p>Well Krasinsky is a Brown graduate so Penn might be the wrong school ;)</p>
<p>Again, good luck to everyone tomorrow.</p>
<p>this is very very scary… I wish i could’ve checked though:( congrats ______ and good luck to the rest of us.</p>
<p>MC99 congrats, that’s really awesome (I’m pretty sure this is all legit). Unfortunately, it was 5am and I was sleeping at the time.
11.5 hours to go…to sleep or not to sleep, that is the question. My heart has been beating so hard, all day.</p>
<p>Hey, to all the people clinging to the word “unprecedented” in the possibly fake letter; it’s not technically wrong. Furda, or Kaplan, or whomever it was, merely wrote that there was an unprecedented number applicants that were so well qualified; not that there was an unprecedented number of total applicants. It’s unreasonable that they would lie about this to the ED group of applicants. That’s just preaching to the choir.</p>
<p>In case anyone is interested in what a current Penn student majoring in computer science who has taken a class in databases has to say about this:</p>
<p>Some of the “reasoning” that has been provided for the site being legit/fake is just plain nonsense (eg., what iwantpenn said). The fact that the letter matches your name and your program guarantees nothing. Anyone who is talking about Penn “uploading” the decisions or the “trouble” it takes them to do that or how they have to “upload” them before the day is also talking nonsense. The decisions are stored in a database, and the application that displays your decision letter just displays the appropriate “acceptance”, “rejection” or “deferred” letter according to the data in the database. So for instance, this may be an entry in the database:</p>
<p>Name, School, Program, Decision</p>
<p>So the application that displays your letter just queries the value of Decision, and if it is “ACCEPTED”, it will display the acceptance letter, filling in the “Dear [Name]” with the corresponding name from your entry in the database, as well as the correct school, program, etc.</p>
<p>Now consider what happens if the database entry looks as follows:</p>
<p>Name, School, Program, Decision, RandomTestDecision</p>
<p>where RandomTestDecision is a randomly generated decision.</p>
<p>So to test the application that generates decision letters, it is perfectly possible that they created a ‘fake’ decision field in the database that is not the actual decision, but a randomly generated decision, and that they query that field instead of the real one for generating the test letters. If this was done, then it is perfectly possible that all the information given in the letter is correct, while the decision itself is not legit.</p>
<p>Having said this, the explanation that “we used last years results for testing” sounds quiet made up, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the site was indeed displaying real decisions. But you shouldn’t be believing this just because the letter matches your name, looks genuine, and matches your program. In any case, just relax, hope for the best, and wait a few more hours!</p>
<p>but they didn’t say they used last year’s results…they said that the decisions were randomized just like your friend claims.</p>