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<p>I was just watching some news commentary on this subject, and one of the participants basically said exactly what I did earlier…she said that if the very first thing a wife does in response to her wealthy husband’s infidelity is to call in the lawyers to negotiate bigger money, maybe that attitude had something to do with the marriage failing to begin with. I won’t go that far, but I do think there’s a point to be made there. </p>

<p>Bromfeld:
Yes, I was saying that I think the pre-nup was a discentive for Tiger to honor his marriage vows–because there are built in financial incentives for his wife to stay in the marriage for an increasing number of years. I think many wives would “look the other way” for that sort of money, at least until the private matters became public and thus humiliating. </p>

<p>I find it kind of hard to believe that Elin had absolutely no clue about Tiger’s behavior. I guess I’m an exceptionally good people reader, but if my significant other were catting around to that degree, I think I would be able to pick up some vibes.</p>

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<p>Agree a million percent with this post. In fact, I said this earlier in this thread. Anyone who goes through a checkout line at the grocery or watches an hour of TV realizes that the behavior of rich, entitled, professional athletes is notoriously poor.</p>

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<p>I don’t know about this. When it comes to getting married, hope springs eternal. We are all fools when it comes to love. And I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt, that she really (did) love Tiger. Of course there is no better aphrodisiac than a successful top athlete.</p>

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<p>“Phil Mickelson called Mrs. Woods. He’s looking for tips on how to beat Tiger…”</p>

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AH…gotta love the “true love” between Tiger and Elin! This is what they call “working out things between them.” :rolleyes:</p>

<p>I hope she proves me wrong and walks away from this tomorrow, kids in tow. I will be the first to give her a thumbs up. Tiger didn’t have “an affair.” He had serial (and probably concurrent) infidelity for the majority of their brief marriage. People who marry for love do not tolerate that, imho, and agree to put on a fake show for money. JMO.</p>

<p>[Tiger</a> Woods to pay his wife millions to stick by him – DailyFinance](<a href=“Stock Portfolio & Tracker - Yahoo Finance”>Stock Portfolio & Tracker - Yahoo Finance)</p>

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Maybe that is the first thing she did this time. Since he’s apparently been having serial affairs for half their marriage, this probably isn’t the first time they’ve had to have this little talk, hence the escalation the golf club attack :)</p>

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<p>I have to say, Purple, the Daily Finance article does turn my stomach. “Gee, if I stick around I can have even more millions than I already have…!!”…I think I’d take my few millions and get out of there. He’s a skunk and I’d take my maiden name back to boot!</p>

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<p>The synical attitude towards Elin is, IMO, way out of line. There is no evidence that she was or is an opportunist. She didn’t ask to meet him, he asked to meet her. And apparently she has a twin sister, Josefin, (wow), and both were working as au pairs for the Parneviks. As was said upthread, their mother, Barbro Holmberg, is a politician and former Swedish migration and asylum policy minister. Their father, Thomas, is a radio journalist who served as a bureau chief in Washington, D.C. </p>

<p>We had au pairs when our kids were young, one of whom was from a wealthy Danish family. Spending a year as an au pair is not uncommon for europeans-- sort of the equivalent to their “gap year”. </p>

<p>I agree with lgm- there is no reason to assume Elin didn’t marry for love. I suspect Tiger is trying to get her to stay because the distraction of a divorce and bad press will hurt his game and his endorsements. He is the one looking out for his wallet, not her!!! Sheesh. If she is smart, she may take it slow, protect herself and her kids, lay very low and perhaps stay around for the short term. She is likely hurt and upset, but she isnt the one who did anything wrong. Give her credit for trying to make the best out of a bad, sad situation. She and the kids should get to stay in the house, while Tiger should stay elsewhere on the property. But gee-- they say that the guesthouse on their grounds caught fire from lightening and burned down (lightening ?? now one wonders…). Hmmm… So if the guesthouse isn’t available for Tiger, maybe the doghouse is. He made this bed- he needs to lay in it (NOT others!!)</p>

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<p>"The synical attitude towards Elin is, IMO, way out of line. There is no evidence that she was or is an opportunist. She didn’t ask to meet him, he asked to meet her. And apparently she has a twin sister, Josefin, (wow), and both were working as au pairs for the Parneviks. As was said upthread, their mother, Barbro Holmberg, is a politician and former Swedish migration and asylum policy minister. Their father, Thomas, is a radio journalist who served as a bureau chief in Washington, D.C. "</p>

<p>I agree. Seems that i also read that Tiger and his wife’s mothers were at their home during the accident. I assume that both mothers know details of what the argument was about and what Tiger had been doing.</p>

<p>At the very least, Elin is probably getting good financial advice from her infuriated parents. From another link, it seems that in the Swedish culture, family – not money-- comes first. Seems that would make sense given the high tax rate there that is used to fund things like social services. They don’t appear to be a money grubbing society.</p>

<p>Given Tiger’s serial cheating, it would make sense, too, for Elin to think about how in the future, he may decide to trade her in for a younger model and then to have kids with that new family, abandoning his current children. More reason for her to make sure that she and their children get as much financial protection as possible. </p>

<p>She also may want to hurt Tiger in the wallet – big time – as partial compensation for the hurt and international humiliation his actions gave her. I don’t blame her. In fact, I think that even if he gave her all of his wealth, he couldn’t make up for how he betrayed and hurt her.</p>

<p>Even if he hadn’t had billions and wasn’'t a celebrity athlete, Tiger Woods still would have been the type of man that many women easily could have fallen in love with. He’s handsome, sophisticated, and was educated at one of the world’s top universities. He didn’t need billions to attract women, including gorgeous women.</p>

<p>“.she said that if the very first thing a wife does in response to her wealthy husband’s infidelity is to call in the lawyers to negotiate bigger money, maybe that attitude had something to do with the marriage failing to begin with.”</p>

<p>She is an idiot to say such a stupid thing. I think that the first thing that would cross many women’s mind’s in such a situation would be thoughts of leaving. Then, they’d wonder how they’d afford to leave. If one has a prenup that says one wouldn’t get a payout until 10 years of marriage, it would make very good sense to have that agreement changed since one’s husband had already betrayed the trust the marriage presumably had been built on.</p>

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<p>I’m so upset. I took advantage of a late season sale to buy 6 boxes of the Nike golf balls that Tiger Woods uses. Now what do I do with them? I can’t use the same golf balls as an admitted adulterer!</p>

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<p>Good point! I actually think she must have known something. I think it would be hard to cat around with the frequency that Tiger does without some hint being left. I think what hacked Elin off was the news getting out after the car accident. At that point it became humiliating and was worth much more money to her! ;)</p>

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<p>She’ll stay (at least for a while) for enough money. Isn’t love marriage ** money **wonderful? ;)</p>

<p>Anyhow, I am glad it is hitting* Tiger *in the PR and pocketbook areas (natural consequences), but sad to think that at least one of his illicit partners will also make a profit from this sordid business. “TMZ reports indicate that Uchitel had agreed to deny any sexual relationship with Woods, and he and his reps knew about this plan. Rumours are also circulating of a $1 million deal from Woods to the nightclub hostess, in return for her silence on the affair.” <a href=“Error 404”>Error 404; ARRRGGGHHH!</p>

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<p>It is utterly ludicrous to lump Elin Woods in with the third shift Wal-Mart worker who lives paycheck to paycheck. Good grief. I think that Elin could “afford” to leave with several mil… :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>The belief of every bride who stares at the dismal divorce rates and yet still jumps in with faith…</p>

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<p>What she’s asked for in the new pre-nup is less than 1% of Tiger’s net worth (heard it last night on a local tv show (Boston Proper on the PBS station–geez even PBS isn’t above discussing this). That’s hardly someone who’s taking the guy for all he’s worth.</p>

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<p>“Good point! I actually think she must have known something. I think it would be hard to cat around with the frequency that Tiger does without some hint being left”</p>

<p>I think that there are hints left in most such situations, and I also think it’s natural to overlook such hints. No one wants to believe that their husband is a liar and i unfaithful.</p>

<p>In addition, Tiger’s wife was pregnant or recently pregnant during the last 18 months. She also has had sole parenting responsibility when Tiger has been away in tournaments. She has had lots on her plate – as we probably remember from our days of being young mothers, so may not have been focusing on whether her husband was unfaithful. Tiger also may be quite a smooth liar, plus he had people covering for him. A billion dollars can buy a lot of secret keeping.</p>

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<p>Here’s my take on the post-nup, what if she did it for “proof” from him that he means it when he says “I am sorry and it will never happen again”.</p>

<p>IMHO, if I were in her shoes in this fragile scenario, putting money where your mouth is would give me a sense of belief that he is sincere. None of us know that this is not the reason he agreed to a new post-nup. It is common practice among celebrities. Catherine Zeta Jones openly admitted because of Michael Douglas’s philandering history that she had a cheaters fine placed in their pre-nup.</p>

<p>Her trust in him is shattered, and I think she is protecting herself financially and emotionally. It is a heck of a lot easier to re-build the trust when the adulterer antes in something more than just words. Also, I think this public humiliation makes it okay to say “you owe me buddy!” </p>

<p>From all accounts, people who personally know her have said for yrs, it was not a Cinderella story for her to marry Tiger, it was for Tiger that she married him. He pursued her relentlessly until she gave in. I wonder if she now is saying I should have stayed with my first instinct and never responded to him.</p>

<p>Tiger needs her to give him a second chance for public image, she does not need him. She will be wealthy with or without him. Nobody will ever blame her for leaving, people will respect her for staying even if it is for the kids.</p>

<p>I heard this morning the reason Uditel cancelled because it is now being speculated that Tiger’s lawyers bought her “exclusive life story”, which means she can’t say squat…basically a civil gag order.</p>

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Once again, I say it is utterly ludicrous to compare Elin Woods with people who have much more on their plates, but don’t even have the consolation of millions of dollars.</p>

<p>Many, many young military wives are alone raising kids without the money for a mansion, nannies, etc. etc. </p>

<p>Being away in tournaments is not the same as being gone for literally months or years on end in order to serve your country, and many men who cheat travel for their work. Why is Elin Woods so special? Oh…that’s right. 'Cause her hubby is a billionaire, and it’s more of an affront to a gorgeous bikini model than to a mundane businessman’s wife! ;)</p>

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<p>Yes, Ms Uchitel should be the one wearing the Nike gear for a while. I don’t blame her for taking the money. I blame her for being a fool for having an affair with him, but not for cashing in. I look at that image of her when she was holding up the picture of her fiancee lost on 9/11 and I look at her now and wonder how she got from there to here.</p>

<p>Why does Tiger cheat? because he can</p>

<p>Why does Tiger pay? because he can</p>

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<p>^^^ Very true Cartera.</p>

<p>This is why I place more blame on the women who he cheated with then him. I still place blame squarely at his feet, but if these women had turned and said you are married, your wife is pregnant get lost, he would not have been in this situation. They enabled him to pursue this track. Had they all said “NO”, eventually he might have thought that maybe he was wrong to pursue this option and go to his wife and say we need to work on our marriage something is missing here.</p>

<p>Tiger is a flipping fool if he thinks they laid down in bed with him because of his shining personality and not because he is worth billions. Those women would not have given him a second look if he was the bartender at the club.</p>

<p>The other girl who gave the US magazine an interview claims she was young and innocent. BS! If you are innocent you believe in marriage, you wouldn’t ask "am the only one you are cheating on your wife with? She got caught up in the thrill that TIGER WOODS wanted her, she was in it for the perks. If she was in it for love she would have said to US he told me forever that he was leaving Elin. She did not state that as the reason for coming forward, but the fact that he had other mistresses.</p>

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<p>“This is why I place more blame on the women who he cheated with then him. I still place blame squarely at his feet, but if these women had turned and said you are married, your wife is pregnant get lost, he would not have been in this situation. They enabled him to pursue this track. Had they all said “NO”, eventually he might have thought that maybe he was wrong to pursue this option and go to his wife and say we need to work on our marriage something is missing here.”</p>

<p>I place the blame squarely on him. Any person who is willing to stoop low enough can find a person who’s willing to cheat with them. Money just allows one to attract more beautiful people with low morals.</p>