Tiger Woods

<p>The jokes are getting wild. My daughter came home tonight and asked what the difference was between Tiger Woods and Santa. “Santa stops at three Ho Ho Ho’s” Or my husband’s annoucement after watching ESPN tonight that Tiger was officially changing his name to Cheetah Woods. This guy will forever be the center of jokes. Sad really.</p>

<p>I think that Elin Woods should meet with and be mentored by Jenny Sanford. I saw a brief part of the Barbara Walters interview with her (an interview about her husband’s affair). That is one classy, intelligent, and well-grounded woman. A real inspiration. I admire her so much for leaving her husband, despite the difficulty of doing so with kids. IMHO, she’s really doing the right thing for both herself and her children.</p>

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Really, what is the point of this? Does she really want to be his minder for the rest of their married lives?</p>

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<p>I disagree. A pre nup is a contract that can cover whatever it wants to (as long as what is covered is not against the law). Assets acquired prior to a marriage come in as separate property and if properly sequestered and not commingled remain the separate property of the spouse who brought it into the marriage. You don’t need a pre nup to cover those legally.</p>

<p>Where a pre nup is useful is to limit a spouse to certain assets gained within the time frame of the marriage…for example, if we stay married more than 5 years, lower status wife will only get $XXX as a financial settlement from the divorce.</p>

<p>KING5 Seattle reports that one of TW’s mistresses, a porn star, is on the list of the most wanted deadbeat parents in our state:</p>

<p>[Ex-husband</a> of one of Tiger Woods’ alleged mistresses speaks out | KING 5 TV | Seattle News, Local News, Breaking News, Weather | News](<a href=“http://www.king5.com/news/Ex-husband-of-one-of-Tiger-Woods-alleged-mistresses-speaks-out-79029357.html]Ex-husband”>http://www.king5.com/news/Ex-husband-of-one-of-Tiger-Woods-alleged-mistresses-speaks-out-79029357.html)</p>

<p>:eek:</p>

<p>“Tiger will have to work long and hard to ever get her to trust him again.”</p>

<p>Nice choice of words…</p>

<p>“Tiger will have to work long and hard to ever get her to trust him again.”</p>

<p>She’ll be a fool to trust him again. Being married for 5 years, and finding out your husband had a dozen of affairs, one as long as 18 months… That kind of record indicates he probably start messing around on their wedding day. Not to mention the e-mails he send to his mistresses putting his wife down. Amazing that some people try to find the wife guilty of spousal abuse, and would really want to see her in jail.</p>

<p>“Really, what is the point of this? Does she really want to be his minder for the rest of their married lives?”</p>

<p>I agree with you. What she’s planning on doing reminds me of how some wives of alcoholics think they can control their husband’s drinking by pouring liquor down the drain and keeping him away from bars.</p>

<p>I also imagine that someone who appears to love the chase like Tiger does will be able to find ways of being unfaithful even if his wife travels with him. Having to sneak around even more might add to his excitement and give him more reason to blame her. After all, if she did a better job of being his minder, he wouldn’t be able to mess around.</p>

<p>Also, if she’s planning to spend that much time and energy minding her husband, who’ll be minding the kids?</p>

<p>She’s naive, stupid or very desperate to consider this solution.</p>

<p>Elin doesn’t really have to worry about the pre-nup if she left him, because she could sell her life story for millions. Tiger who has supposedly paid in the 7 digit number to keep Uchitel quiet will pay in the 8 digits to keep Elin silent, thus the pre-nup is a non-issue.</p>

<p>She holds the cards, it would not surprise me at all if a post nup has already been crafted and signed by the both of them. He needs her more than she needs him. For several yrs now TW has played more events overseas, if she kabbashes him playing I bet it will be internationally, except for torunaments like the British Open. For me, I would have no problem with him playing still…the reality is this story is so huge, his life will be like Gary Harts, the media will be watching him like a hawk to catch him. In a way she is fortunate as far as a wife whose spouse cheated, because of his fame he will have to walk a thin line.</p>

<p>My question is how much longer will Nike carry him if it is true that he hired prostitutes. As a woman, I keep seeing her pics and think to myself she is down right beautiful, how could any man desire other women over her? From all news accounts she is also the beautiful on the inside too. Unfortunately, I think she is saying to herself “Why didn’t I listen to my inner feelings when he was chasing me?” Supposedly she declined him for a long time, to me that says she knew he was a player.</p>

<p>I do not think she is naive, stupid or desperate. I think she truly loves him and the family that they have created. She is holding onto the last string of hope. They have very young children together and she is a child of divorce. Maybe for her she carries the scars of her parents divorce and wants to do everything in her control to not have history repeat itself regarding her children. Many women stay for the kids. Many stay for the vow of better or worse. Many stay for financial reasons. None of these reasons or naive, stupid or desperate. If she decides to “stand by her man”, maybe, we should all say, congrats. Why? Because, she is being in her own way a role model. She is saying I could have walked away with millions instead of being snickered at behind my back. It would be easier for her to leave than to stay. If she has decided to stay, and they get passed this, she can help others. Flip side, if she leaves, she will be a role model to others also. It is all on the revelance of how you view marriage. Adultery is different than spousal abuse.</p>

<p>It is interesting, the contrast between Jenny Sanford and Tiger’s wife, given that they both come from similar backgrounds…Jenny Sanford comes from a very prominent family, as well. Of course, Elin is not nearly the mature woman Jenny is, nor does she appear to have the considerable intellect. Plus, how pathetic was her husband, “I fell in love…bahaha-boohoohoo, woe is me. Alas.”</p>

<p>I cannot believe this woman is going to drop everything in her own life to follow a man around the world playing golf and being his mother. THAT ought to really heat things up in the bedroom. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>At this point, Tiger should suspend all his product endorsements and hide out for a while. Who could possibly look at an ad with Tiger in it and not feel negatively? (Except for you of course Schmaltz :)) The public may dislike him now, or feel sorry for him now, but neither of those are good for product endorsement. He has to earn back his squandered good will.</p>

<p>I agree there is a huge difference, but the major factor is Sanford stated that the other woman was “his soul mate”. There is no coming back from that. Also if you saw her on Barbara Walters, she said, she sperated from him for 30 days in the hopes that the loss of her and their kids would “shock” him, it didn’t. She actually did try to salvage the marriage. She also did this move before it became publicly known of his affair.</p>

<p>Tiger had multiple affairs that all seem to be based on sex and not emotion. It is harder to walk away because, Elin can convince herself it was just sex, and he never loved them.</p>

<p>"As a woman, I keep seeing her pics and think to myself she is down right beautiful, how could any man desire other women over her?'</p>

<p>It’s a fallacy that men cheat because their wives aren’t beautiful enough. In many if not most cases, the women that the men cheat with don’t look as good as the wife looks. Men cheat because they want variety or the excitement of sneaking around or they want to have all of the fun without the responsibilities that come with being married to someone. They want to live in fantasy land.</p>

<p>“If she decides to “stand by her man”, maybe, we should all say, congrats. Why? Because, she is being in her own way a role model. She is saying I could have walked away with millions instead of being snickered at behind my back.”</p>

<p>She will be saying, "I could have walked away from a man who cared so little about my welfare --and the welfare of our unborn children-- that he had unprotected sex with women he picked up on the street. I could have walked away from a man who thinks o little of women that he consorts with porn stars. I could have walked away from a man who is a consummate liar. I could have walked away from a man whom I am structuring my and my children’s lives so I can watch him like a hawk so he doesn’t betray me again. But, I stayed with him for the sake of my children. Yes, I am my own person. "</p>

<p>“Tiger had multiple affairs that all seem to be based on sex and not emotion. It is harder to walk away because Elin can convince herself it was just sex, and he never loved them.”</p>

<p>Well, maybe. Except those emails to Uchitel tell a really different story, imho, and make her choice seem idiotic. Truly.</p>

<p>Ya know, if the below is true, Tiger comes across as being very cheap and even more selfish than he seemed before. Also considering his celebrity, it seems it would have made sense to have given these women some gifts so they didn’t tell all to a tabloid for pay. </p>

<p>I’m still struck at all that he did with pancake waitress was have sex with her.</p>

<p>Sad that some women will settle for so little. Not even a birthday card! And these women seem to have felt that they were Tiger’s girlfriend! Silly girls.</p>

<p>"In an exclusive interview Friday, admitted Tiger Woods mistress Jamie Jungers, 26, denied rumors that she had received any money from the famous golfer, whose once squeaky-clean image has been tarnished by a succession of women stepping forward to say they have had affairs with him.</p>

<p>“I didn’t even get a birthday card,” the woman who met Woods as a Las Vegas cocktail waitress told Meredith Vieira live on TODAY. “I got nothing out of this relationship but a broken heart.”…</p>

<p>Their affair may have continued if Jungers hadn’t eventually hit up Woods for cash. She said she was financially struggling during their relationship, and continued living with an ex-fiancee after they had broken up because she was “not financially stable enough to move out and be on my own.” Jungers told Vieira she had a heart-to-heart with her mother, who told her, “If he is really interested in you, then he will show it.”</p>

<p>“The one time out of the whole year and a half I was with Tiger, I asked him, ‘Can you please help me out?’ I didn’t give him a dollar amount, I didn’t say, ‘Can you buy me a house?’ I wasn’t specific about what I needed, but I did say, can you help me out?</p>

<p>“He said, ‘I can’t.’ I said, ‘I don’t understand.’ I thought maybe he was joking. I was already embarrassed to ask about it. He said, ‘I’m sorry, I can’t.’ And that’s when I told him, ‘That shows to me how much I mean to you, and I can’t do this anymore. I’m already in a rough position in my life and I have more drama and that’s what I don’t need.’ ”</p>

<p>^^^^wow…pays 30 or 60 thousand for one night with a fancy prostitute and can’t come up with a dime for the waitress?
Oh yes, they just keep coming out of the woodwork. We now have hostesses, cocktail waitresses, porn stars and prostitutes. What a line up!<br>
And he’s filing to stop naked pics from getting published (no admission that they even exist of course…yeah right).
I think Elin is absolutely crazy and naive to stick with this guy. Unfortunately, it appears she may still love him. And he’s probably convinced her that he will change. It’s a good thing their kids are too young to process all this sordid stuff right now. Imagine if they were in school and the abuse they would get? If she does stick with him, they really should move out of the US.</p>

<p>CNN just had a headline, “Tiger Woods gets order preventing publication of nude photos.”</p>

<p>In order to differentiate the two, one must first define “adultery” based on how one views marriage. As far as I am concerned, TW did NOT commit adultery. </p>

<p>To me, adultery is having an affair over the course of your marriage, as in failing to control your emotion for a short period of time. The urge to sleep with a multitude of women during the ENTIRE course of your marriage is a mental problem, not adultery. </p>

<p>I believe that finding out your husband had an affair must be hard, but over time, you can forgive and try to move on in your relationship for the sake of your children. Finding out your husband slept with anything wearing a skirt is a whole different matter, especially considering the “bimbos”. </p>

<p>Mark my words, more will come out, and the worse is not over. </p>

<p>Smacking a car window with a golf club is not spousal abuse. Hitting your husband with a golf club would have been spousal abuse, but she did not do that, obviously. Angry as she was, to have mustered the strength to break the window, had it been his face, he would have had more than a bleeding lip.</p>

<p>If I were Elin’s mother? I’d STILL be in the hospital. Can you imagine raising a daughter so idiotic and lacking in self-respect to think “I still love him” is a reason to stay with a guy like this? I, for one, cannot.</p>

<p>I hate being right so quickly!!! with regards to nude pictures.</p>