<p>Is it spousal abuse to have uprotected sex with multiple women AND with your wife? I’d like to see that case. “Reckless endangerment.” Too bad Elin has the self-esteem of a slug.</p>
<p>Yeah…it’s gonna get worse. Reports are starting to fly about kinky stuff. How much would it take to make Elin go in a different direction here?
I know there’s speculation that he may need to give up golf (yeah right). Maybe she has a clause in the pre-nup…one wrong move and she gets ALL his money. Who knows.</p>
<p>“If I were Elin’s mother? I’d STILL be in the hospital. Can you imagine raising a daughter so idiotic and lacking in self-respect to think “I still love him” is a reason to stay with a guy like this? I, for one, cannot.”</p>
<p>I agree. The mother sounds, too, like a powerhouse in that she is a well known politician in a part of the world in which it’s normal for women to have high political positions and to do a great job at them.</p>
<p>Elin seems more and more like a dumb blond, but from what we’ve seen, that seems to be Tiger’s type.</p>
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as for the nude pictures, I would bet money that there are sex videos of Tiger. Sex videos showing kinky stuff.</p>
<p>Anyone else curious about whether Tiger’s BFF-- who used to cover and pimp for him – really did get married over the weekend? I’m wondering if his fiancee – who works for Nike – had the good sense to back out…</p>
<p>Come on, folks. What is being said in the tabloids (which may be a few days stale) and what is really going on behind closed doors could be quite disparate. And even when someone has been hurt severely, it doen’t mean their love instantly goes down the flusher. These feelings take time to sort out, and under such circumstances, processing the myriad of feelings that likely change from day to day takes time. This isnt the time for hasty decision-making. Cut Elin a little slack.</p>
<p>jym - agree. Everyone gets to make their own decisions…who are we to second guess?
But we can try to put ourselves in her place…and when I do…I feel profoundly sad for her and her kids.
Those pics will be on the internet soon…that’s where they usually appear first. Uggh. Again, good thing that the kids are so young.</p>
<p>“Can you imagine raising a daughter so idiotic and lacking in self-respect to think “I still love him” is a reason to stay with a guy like this?”</p>
<p>I see, now it is all her mothers fault? I am amazed that no one blames TWs mother for raising someone like him. It is obvious the wife is in shock. I dont think she has yet grasped the extent of what has and is happening. Here was a beautiful housewife who was raising her children, minding her own business, when her world publicly collapsed.</p>
<p>I agree - Elin should take her time deciding what to do.</p>
<p>“I would bet money that there are sex videos of Tiger.”</p>
<p>So says the Enquirer, which also mentions a love child. Seems almost impossible not to be true.</p>
<p>“I am amazed that no one blames TW’s mother for raising someone like him.”</p>
<p>I suspect the Dad had more influence.</p>
<p>I read a B. Gates bio years ago. The folks let him spend days/nights on end programming computers. He had an extremely limited social life. Frankly if someone posted on this board similar facts about their own kid they would be (if not slammed) ‘strongly encouraged’ to make the kid socialize. It worked out for him, and maybe T’s folks thought pursuit of his passion at the expense of moral education would work out as well. Morally, they were tragically wrong.</p>
<p>Someone may have hit the nail on the head earlier in the thread. Elin may stay so she doesn’t have to be away from her kids half the time. That’s exactly what I’d do. I couldn’t bear to be away from my kids half the time, especially when small. I bet there are a lot of women who’d feel that way.</p>
<p>Good point about the kids. Better to have him sleep in a spare bedroom and see the kids as much as possible. I can see that as a valid choice…
Wow…looking back at this, it’s just amazing to me that this has been under wraps for so long. There’s just SO MUCH stuff here. An explosion of sordid stories…all coming out of the woodwork. Eeek…might make some of these other arrogant stars out there think twice.</p>
<p>"The folks let him spend days/nights on end programming computers. He had an extremely limited social life. Frankly if someone posted on this board similar facts about their own kid they would be (if not slammed) ‘strongly encouraged’ to make the kid socialize. "</p>
<p>Gates also was involved in community service with his parents and was involved in scouts. He got Order of the Arrow. His parents had him do more than just program computers.</p>
<p>Back to Tiger: From his self-centered behavior (something that doesn’t seem true for Bill Gates, who appears to have good values, genuinely try to make a positive difference in the world, and to have picked a wife out of mutual interests and love), I suspect that his parents focused only on him and golf, and didn’t do much to develop aspects of his personality having to do with things like compassion, etc.</p>
<p>I was surprised to read that Tiger is Buddhist. His actions involving the mistresses fly in the face of everything that Buddhism teaches, so I don’t know what he is thinking when he calls himself Buddhist.</p>
<p>Doesn’t seem he’s familiar with this quote from the Buddha:</p>
<p>“The thought manifests as the word; The word manifests as the deed; The deed develops into habit; And habit hardens into character. So watch the thought and its ways with care, And let it spring from love Born out of concern for all beings.”</p>
<p>"Elin may stay so she doesn’t have to be away from her kids half the time. "</p>
<p>Who says he wants custody?</p>
<p>He’s on the road a lot anyway. Given his romps with mistresses when Elin – and presumably the kids – were in Sweden – doesn’t seem like he’s the type to be going out of his way to spend lots of time with the kids.</p>
<p>Maybe Tiger is only a Buddhist on the golf course.</p>
<p>There is a huge difference between being socially flawed and displaying immoral behaviors on such a large scale. </p>
<p>And as for the children, they are too young for the divorce to make a difference in their life. Besides, after learning the hectic life of TW (sex, tournament, sex, advertisements, sex, meetings), the children probably saw him more on pictures than in real life.</p>
<p>RE: staying in an unhappy marriage for the “sake of the kids:”</p>
<p>As a child of divorce, I agree with the following quote:</p>
<p>“Children would rather be from a broken home than *in *one.”</p>
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<p>The Enquirer has had an excellent track record on Edwards and Tiger despite strong protestations from the accused. They broke both stories.</p>
<p>What Nrdb4 said, and for the same reason. The inconvenience of having to see your parents in two different places is nothing compared to the pain of being stuck with both of them when they don’t love each other. And if one of those parents decides to go AWOL after the divorce, that’s a pretty good sign that the kid is better off without him/her.</p>
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Spending time with them isn’t the same as letting their mom have full custody. I can’t see any circumstances under which his lawyers or handlers would allow him to not present the public face of fatherhood. Also, if Elin gambles that he won’t want custody and is wrong, she will be in the position of being away from her kids. I would never, ever take that risk. Just couldn’t do it.</p>
<p>eucaplypticus-- I was NOT, emphatically NOT blaming her mother in the slightest. IF my post read that way? which I don’t think it does, then mea culpa. It is my biggest opinion that we blame and give credit to parents where no blame and no credit are due, and I have published several papers to this effect.</p>
<p>I was saying her mother must be UPSET by these choices. They, to me, indicate a lack of self-esteme I would be deeply saddened to see in my own children…not that the mother could have prevented that…it has been shown repeatedly that people living in dysfunctional situations (read the marriage NOT how she grew up) tend to lose self-esteme over time as well as develop a type of learned helplessness…sad but true.</p>
<p>As for staying with a man who is gone most of the year for the sake of the kids, unless Tiger plans to stop the golf? He’s not going to get physical custody, anyway. While judges are instructed to go for joint custody? They are also not going to send a child caroming around the planet for half the year, either. A stable home is a part of the deal.</p>
<p>That said, if she decides she wants to stay in the marriage to have her kids have thier few weeks of Tiger at home a year? It’s her life and fortunately for her she does not need to take my, or any of our, opinions into account. :)</p>