<p>I do feel sorry for the Wood’s family, but what gets me is how many powerful men succumb to primal needs and destroy or at least badly damage their carefully constructed “empires.” I am not saying that women are innocent in this, as it is a two-way street, I just am constantly amazed at how many high-level men are made examples of in the media for this type of thing and it just keeps repeating with another one. It is a shame that humans, whether it is individually or globally, seem unable to learn from history.</p>
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<p>I actually think they did choose him because of his personal life. There are a lot of great athletes and lots of people of good character, but the two together? Kind of rare, apparently, and thus worthy of the big endorsements.</p>
<p>Interesting article in the WSJ on the social value of gossip…and in particular, discussions of Tiger’s transgressions.</p>
<p>“Gossip can be more than just a warning device: It also can serve as moral instruction. Some of what we learn about right and wrong comes from our guardians and teachers in the form of codes and principles. Some comes from our consumption of media in the form of stories and narratives. Yet much more powerful are the rules that apply most to us in situ, that is, in our particular situation. These are communicated informally, or tacitly, through our local network of friends and acquaintances. Gossip informs us about how to act properly in a given social context.”</p>
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<p>"Men can also learn some helpful hints from the ready disclosures of Tiger’s many alleged mistresses willing to share with the world interesting details about their numerous assignations. These ladies, though attractive and apparently devoted to Tiger until the scandal broke, discarded their loyalty to him overnight. Guys, be careful whom you hang out with. One is reminded of a similar lesson in Tom Hanks’s memorable line from “Sleepless In Seattle”: “Didn’t you see ‘Fatal Attraction’?..Well, I saw it and it scared the s— out of me. It scared the s— out of every man in America.”</p>
<p>Just as is the case with Bill Clinton’s trangressions more than 10 years ago, Tiger Woods’ transgressions make for instructive conversations with our offspring. He indeed has provided us with some excellent teachable moments.</p>
<p>“Discarded thier loyalty to him overnight…”</p>
<p>Maybe it was that each of them, as they discovered they weren’t the “only” other woman found whatever “loyalty” he’d pretended to have to them was never there…contract null and void.</p>
<p>I wonder if he will ever be the same golfer again? I have a feeling not.</p>
<p>The Tiger Woods story also provides a warning to us parents about how to teach our kids how to regard themselves – not as the chosen ones…</p>
<p>"He was … the figure so imposing that his late father, Earl, predicted he would not only become greater than athletes such as Muhammad Ali and Jackie Robinson, but one of the greatest figures in world history.</p>
<p>“He’s qualified through his ethnicity to accomplish miracles. He’s the bridge between the East and the West,” Earl Woods said in 1996. There is no limit because he has the guidance. I don’t know yet exactly what form this will take. But he is the Chosen One."
[The</a> Associated Press: Two weeks that shattered the legend of Tiger Woods](<a href=“http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j3xiLSwmYuLOOnNF45CME819jJvAD9CHVD4G0]The”>http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j3xiLSwmYuLOOnNF45CME819jJvAD9CHVD4G0)</p>
<p>Well, I imagine that Earl Woods constantly drilled this message ^^ into Tiger. Lord, sounds like guidebook on how to raise a narcissist.</p>
<p>" Does she really want to be his minder for the rest of their married lives?"</p>
<p>How do you say “Me love you long time” in Swedish?</p>
<p>It is interesting to me that we have heard no backlash publicly against the enablers. From agent to caddie to friends, etc., many people have made bank on Tiger’s talent and on marketing his character, yet they seem to have done nothing to safeguard that product and when the situation hit the fan, they are also not in any way deemed responsible.</p>
<p>We have discussed here whether TW or the women bear ultimate responsibility and I am in te camp to blame the husband more than the skanks. But when he is surrounded by and paying an income to his advisers, do they bear responsibility? Is their repercussion to be terminated?</p>
<p>“to paraphrase another philanderer, Ben Franklin…if Tiger and the Nike Golf division don’t hang together, they’ll all hang separately.”</p>
<p>People should probably refrain from using all forms of the verb “hang” until those nude pictures of Tiger are made public.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
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<p>“It is interesting to me that we have heard no backlash publicly against the enablers. From agent to caddie to friends, etc., many people have made bank on Tiger’s talent and on marketing his character, yet they seem to have done nothing to safeguard that product and when the situation hit the fan, they are also not in any way deemed responsible.”</p>
<p>They were doing what their “friend” – a term they use for “employer” – paid them to do. They were doing their jobs as pimps and security guards.</p>
<p>Interesting profile:</p>
<p>"Even before the ignominy of becoming one of the world’s most well-known wronged wives, she had struggled with the expectations of being Mrs Tiger Woods.
Unusually, given her profile since their relationship became public in 2002, she has never given an interview. While polite and friendly, she keeps her distance from the other wives on the circuit.
‘She’s like Greta Garbo,’ says one. 'When she started dating Tiger, it was as if there was this unwritten agreement she would not say anything to anyone. She’s nice, but when you talk to her, you don’t get anything out of her…</p>
<p>The Nordegrens instilled a strong work ethic in their children and neighbours recall them taking menial jobs in the holidays, including working as a supermarket cashier…</p>
<p>Having seen a photograph of her at a social event, Bingo Rimer, a leading Swedish fashion photographer, was quick to spot her potential as a model and asked her to do a photoshoot.
She was initially reluctant. ‘Elin doesn’t care about modelling,’ he says. ‘I had to drag her into the studio. Being famous, the whole celebrity thing, she really and truly does not care about that.’
Elin did five shoots with Rimer - some in bikinis, but never nude. But her heart wasn’t in it. Even when, in 2000, she made the cover of a men’s fashion magazine, she did little to capitalise on it.
Instead, she chose to focus on her studies. But it was a job in a high-end Stockholm boutique, Champagne, that would set her on the path to becoming Mrs Tiger Woods.
One of her customers was Mia Parnevik, wife of Swedish golfer Jesper Parvenik. With four children, she needed two full-time nannies at her home in Florida.
After chatting to Elin at Champagne, Mia all but offered her a job on the spot.
‘Elin was smart and down to earth. I could tell immediately that she was great with children,’ she says.
Ironically, Mia recalls that her new nanny was unimpressed by the golf world …</p>
<p>Read more: [How</a> Elin Woods couldn’t be less like the women Tiger jumped into bed with | Mail Online](<a href=“How Elin Woods couldn't be less like the women Tiger jumped into bed with | Daily Mail Online”>How Elin Woods couldn't be less like the women Tiger jumped into bed with | Daily Mail Online)</p>
<p>"Her pal said: “When Elin found out some of the affairs were in their own homes – she felt that was the end of the road for them. I always wondered if he married for love or chose Elin because she fits in perfectly. </p>
<p>And now I hear all this, it breaks my heart. Elin was 100 per cent in it for love – not like some of the others, who are also in it for reasons of financial security and celebrity lifestyle.”</p>
<p>The friend told how, even before Elin knew about Tiger’s wandering eye, cracks had begun to appear in the marriage when Woods appeared to choose his career over his family.</p>
<p>In 2007, he infamously chose to attend a charity event in California while his first child was being baptised in Sweden…"
[Betrayed</a> wife Elin’s fury at Tiger Woods - mirror.co.uk](<a href=“http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/12/13/betrayed-wife-elin-s-fury-at-tiger-woods-115875-21892910/]Betrayed”>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/12/13/betrayed-wife-elin-s-fury-at-tiger-woods-115875-21892910/)</p>
<p>“It is interesting to me that we have heard no backlash publicly against the enablers. From agent to caddie to friends, etc., many people have made bank on Tiger’s talent and on marketing his character, yet they seem to have done nothing to safeguard that product and when the situation hit the fan, they are also not in any way deemed responsible.”</p>
<p>Also most of these advisers, if not all, were men and I do believe that many men, including perhaps those working for him, didn’t think there was anything particularly wrong in what he was doing…probably wishing they were him. I do think it is women who are disgusted/upset about this, not men, except now that he is taking time off they will be upset that they won’t see him play.</p>
<p>I’m curious how many more cars GM sold because of TW. Do celebrities make such a tangible difference with respect to a buying decision of something that is totally unrelated?</p>
<p>I support the way he’s handling the situation, where he’s going from here.</p>
<p>I also strongly disagree with people asserting they should get a divorce. It’s not like he fell in love with another woman and started having another “relationship”; he had a series of random flings. Situations like that usually implicate some kind of deeper problem in marriage, which is what they’re working on to resolve. </p>
<p>No, I don’t think Tiger should have gotten married if he didn’t intend to keep it in his pants. But when to people get married, they’re in it for the long haul, through the rough times too. Unless either party is sure that their lives, or the lives of their children would be wholly better if they were apart, they should work to resolves their issues. </p>
<p>I don’t know why people want him to fail so badly.</p>
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<p>Are you kidding? If it wasn’t for Tiger Woods, GM would be on the verge of bankruptcy right now.</p>
<p>Ooops, never mind.</p>
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But I wonder if he ever fell in love with any one, Elin included, and this may be the “deeper problem” in the marriage. It seems as though she was like another trophy to him, rather than the love of his life.</p>
<p>I don’t think people want him to fail. They are just surprised and disappointed, because he put up such a front of perfection. Now that we see what he’s really like, it’s kind of hard to feel any respect for him as a man.</p>
<p>“Also most of these advisers, if not all, were men and I do believe that many men, including perhaps those working for him, didn’t think there was anything particularly wrong in what he was doing…probably wishing they were him.”</p>
<p>They were doing the same thing that he was, and that’s why they were so glad to help. They got his leftovers so to speak. </p>
<p>The porn star who says she and a group of women entertained Tiger and his friends at a bachelor’s party didn’t describe the entertainment except to say that she was one of the women whom Tiger and one of his friends selected to get it on in a private room. One can only imagine what the rest of the entertainment was.</p>