<p>If harder than the SAT, to which known test would the in-house test most relate to? We know that the GMAT or GRE are a (small) step above the SAT. Are your test at an even higher level, and if they are, what is the purpose of the tests? </p>
<p>For instance, the SAT is not hard because of the math concepts, as they range from middle school to 10 or perhaps 11th grade. Yet, it is the reasoning part that presents a great difficulty for the majority of the tester. </p>
<p>Except for specific jobs that require a higher level of math knowledge (a la Goodwill Hunting or O’ Dorney) is there much value to test someone beyond basic math “ability.”</p>
<p>Not disputing the facts, just very curious about the process. And yes, I would love to see a few examples of the test. Hopefully it ain’t Nemesis or Gaia stuff! :)</p>
<p>I’ve never said people “need” to move around the country. People can do what they want to do. I think it’s a big country out there, that’s my worldview. People can have other worldviews.</p>
<p>Cobrat,
Your friend’s experience 20 years ago may be a valid tale but not predictive. We aren’t talking about rural gas stations or living next door to Hatfields.</p>
<p>Not surprising at all! And, fwiw, if you look at the staff at most companies that have been VC funded and are current darlings in Bay area, you would be surprised that it is hardly a Stanford insider’s club. And, before you say it, neither is it a Berkeley terrain. People come from all over and from schools that do not have the CC uber-pedigree. </p>
<p>Plenty of Stanford grads join companies where their immediate bosses, and often the people who recruited them, did not graduate from the HYPS club. That does not mean that the Stanford degree is not helpful, but it is hardly a sine qua non condition. After all, the number of yearly graduates is rather small for a (currently) booming industry.</p>
<p>Fearful avoidance of opportunities is not the mindset of a successful or happy person. It’s terrible that one of your relatives was threatened, but I don’t recall a newspaper article in recent decades documenting a wave of anti-Asian violence in rural America.</p>
<p>He wasn’t a relative. He’s a former supervisor who later became a friend. </p>
<p>As for the anti-Asian violence, there was a vicious racist-attack against a group of Asian-American students that happened in upstate NY in the late '90s that wasn’t handled very well by the local authorities. It’s one reason why several younger Asian-American HS alum friends opted not to apply to Syracuse U or other schools in the area for several years after.</p>
<p>And can you also stop generalizing from one experience to the whole, which is a pattern often found in your posts? One person you know experienced X … therefore, all of ___ is like X.</p>
<p>Of course. Since the issue doesn’t affect you or those of your race/ethnicity directly, neither of you can really relate.</p>
<p>Some AA or other URM friends have noticed the same response patterns from those who haven’t experienced the racism and bigotry they’ve lived in some areas of the country. And yes…they’re not always in the South or Midwest…but oddly enough…tend to occur more in rural areas popularly known by some as the “real America”.</p>
<p>The asian population is pretty high in North Carolina, particularly in Charlotte and the Research Triangle, from what I know.</p>
<p>North Carolina has a lot of racial diversity, actually. I think it is the second highest for hispanic ancestry. I wouldn’t fear any of the urban areas. It’s a highly educated state, actually, and both Charlotte and Raleigh are among the fastest growing cities in the country, along with Austin and San Antonio Texas. Denver, too.</p>
<p>Rural? People, get a life. Houston isn’t rural. Austin isn’t rural. Phoenix isn’t rural. I just don’t buy the argument that a 22 year old college grad is such a special snowflake that they can’t bear to start their professional life where companies are actually hiring. </p>
<p>Most big companies pay relocation costs for new grads. Not a fortune- and not enough to move a four bedroom house and garage- but enough to hire a truck to load on the futon and the cartons of books to show up in your new city. Or sell the futon on Craigslist and use the relocation allowance to buy a new futon.</p>
<p>When did we all decide that life was always going to be perfect with no need to compromise?</p>
<p>^^ only about 35k Asians in Charlotte. Not a large identity group. But please don’t assume we don’t also have identity aspects that might lead us to think twice about various areas. We get it. Here we are, talking about a certain measure of aggressiveness, high performers wanting big careers. Somehow, fears based on an incident 20 years ago doesn’t fit.</p>
<p>"Plenty of Stanford grads join companies where their immediate bosses, and often the people who recruited them, did not graduate from the HYPS club. "</p>
<p>One of my cousins, fresh off the boat in mid 90s, went to a lowly A & I that got merged under the A&M umbrella few years ago. He ended up working for a high tech company started by the current Stanford president after moving to bay area. He was talking about how his colleagues were all Stanford/MIT/Berkeley grads and there was a time he solved a problem for all of them. His view was knowing your stuff beats out where you went to school.</p>
<p>Why on earth are you going on about rural areas? The discussion here wasn’t about a college grad moving to the sticks. The discussion here was about a college grad who was pursuing a banking job moving to Charlotte vs Boston. I stand by what I said. The day-to-day work environment and the day-to-day social environment of other young professional twentysomethings is going to be pretty much the same wherever you go. What, do you think the banks are radically different in Charlotte or something? An office building is an office building. A skyscraper is a skyscraper. An office park is an office park. And a young trainee is a young trainee.</p>
<p>I think this is what is written on the small print at the bottom of the participation certificate which comes with the participation trophy.</p>
<p>ETA: If you are saying I don’t understand because I’m not a minority, try having been a woman in business in the eighties. It’s really just about whether or not you want the job.</p>
<p>If you don’t want the job, then I really don’t care. If you want the job, you have to go where the job is. I promise you BofA is not going to create a special job in Boston for somebody, and if they do it will go to the somebody who has experience. Duke Energy, IBM. Do you know how many Fortune 500s are headquartered in Charlotte?</p>
<p>Also, just to be honest, I don’t understand what you are talking about. You are talking about groups of people who immigrated to an entirely new country not being willing to move to a different state? I find that really bizarre.</p>
<p>Sometimes, those compromises may mean placing oneself in literal danger for one’s safety because they are of the wrong race, ethnicity, religious denomination, political affiliation, etc. Incidentally, those were the very reasons many college classmates from those areas opted to move away once they graduated. </p>
<p>And no…I am literally talking about rural areas of the US…especially in the South and Midwest.</p>
<p>Poet, thanks for the laugh. And Pizza, thanks for the reality check.</p>
<p>And guess what folks- if your kid is interviewing for post-grad jobs and has decided to focus on one metro area only- you can do them a big favor by explaining that this is not the way the world works anymore.</p>
<p>My last company had students list their top three locations early on in the interview process. Most of the lists were SF, London and NY with an occasional Chicago, Boston, Paris for giggles. You don’t think it’s easier to get interviewed, noticed, and hired if you are the enterprising young gun who writes “Cleveland, Mexico City and Warsaw” or “Milan, Dayton, Minneapolis”??? We ignored the lists anyway for the purposes of staffing- you ended up where you ended up- but it was a fascinating study in Groupthink. Or the fact that today’s generation no longer gets a globe for their 9th birthday.</p>
<p>Cobrat- there are lots of places in the world I wouldn’t want to live, and plenty of places in the world where I wouldn’t get hired anyway based on who I am/what I am. But because my comfort level is higher in Boston or Philadelphia than it would be in Dubai or Kampala doesn’t mean that I should decide I’ll only interview for jobs in one of my three preferred locations. Or that I will get to complain for the next 5 years about living on my parents sofa due to my continuing unemployment.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, many Asian-Americans…especially those who grew up/spent most of their lives in all/near all-White suburbs can be just as ignorant of prejudice and bigotry faced by other Asian-Americans and especially other minority groups. </p>
<p>It’s something I noticed with many upper-middle class suburbanite relatives. Sometimes, they’ve gone so far as to say that the incidents I, my classmates, and colleagues experienced were all imagined which underscored their obliviousness of the scope of the issue.</p>
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<p>Up until the last few decades, many immigrant groups…including most Chinese groups tended to remain in the urban or nearby suburban areas where they’ve built up some support networks due to language barriers and past historical discrimination. </p>
<p>That and up until recently…certain cultural things like authentic Chinese food tend to be in short supply outside of urban areas with large Chinese-American communities.</p>
<p>Ironically, this part is part of the American immigration story as similar patterns existed among Irish, Italians, Jewish, and other immigrant groups from the 19th century onward.</p>