<p>Dean J has been very clear that this doesn’t happen.
UVa is such a stellar school that obviously we attract the best applicants, even if we are “just a state school”. There’s no reason to deny/waitlist someone because they think that person would never attend. We’re the number 2 public school in the nation and a pretty dang good deal for in-state, so who wouldn’t want to come here?</p>
<p>So if you got waitlisted or denied, it wasn’t because you were “too good”. Sorry.</p>
<p>**That doesn’t mean that you weren’t good enough though. **
Dean J has also said that they just simply can’t admit everyone who would succeed here. There’s not enough room. But UVa doesn’t practice yield protection.
Just wanted to clarify that.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that UVA practices that. But let me ask you this…how does a student with perfect SAT scores not be accepted?</p>
<p>Yes, those with less perfect scores and who were accepted will try to rationalize that they somehow were better. Maybe they were…maybe they weren’t.</p>
<p>But it just seems a bit odd that a 2400 SAT score isn’t accepted to a school such as UVA unless they have yield protection. </p>
<p>You can color it anyway you want, but a spade seems to be a spade, no matter how you want to cover it.</p>
<p>UVa doesn’t only look at test scores. That test took place for maybe 4-5 hours total, whereas the rest of the application took place over 4 years. That’s why UVa reads holistically, and how a 2400 SAT score may not be admitted. </p>
<p>If there really is some crazy decision made where the applicant had absolutely nothing wrong at all, then I would say call the office and ask, but I’m not an admissions officer, so I don’t know why the perfect applicant wasn’t accepted.</p>
<p>I’m thinking maybe the school sent incorrect class ranking or grade information to begin with.</p>
<p>If I had a perfect SAT score, and what I thought were decent essays, and then I was waitlisted or rejected…yeah, I’d call the college to make sure it had accurate QPA and class ranking information.</p>
<p>I’ve heard stories about some schools sending inaccurate information - making a 4.9 QPA a 3.9 QPA - big difference. But unless you call and ask, you’ll never know.</p>
<p>I just think it’s astonishing how much of an advantage being instate is. I mean there are some OOS applicants with 2200+ SATs , extraordinary amount of extracurriculars, near perfect GPAs, etc who got waitlisted, and yet I have friends who have been stoned slackers through out high school, but still got in because they were able to pull off a 2000+ SAT and a decent GPA.</p>
<p>Umm…it’s VA’s game. They have a formula for its residents. I don’t disagree with it. It’s out there for all to know - 2/3 VA residents and 1/3 OSS. As an OSS you know that going into the game. As an OSS who was waitlisted, seeing that my stats were better than many IS, was I disheartened? Honestly - no. I recognized that as a possibility knowing UVA’s requirments.</p>
<p>Do I wish I was accepted and not waitlisted? Absolutely! But I knew the rules of the game before I tossed my hat into the rink. </p>
<p>Even though I was waitlisted (and hope to be accepted after 5/1) I’m thankful for that. I’m in great company!</p>
<p>SAT scores are a small part of a college application, something that imperfectly represents a student and his/her capabilities. It’s not right to assume that someone with perfect SAT scores (or any combination of achievement) should be accepted to any college. Neither does it make you a model student.</p>
<p>Perfect hair doesn’t make you a supermodel.
Perfect spiral doesn’t make you a starting quarterback.</p>
<p>Great SAT scores, perfect hair, great throws are all admirable, but, again, you must stress the whole person; Even as said person is imperfectly represented in a college application.</p>
<p>not to be rude…but don’t be too impressed with yourself nathey.</p>
<p>There are some awesome candidates on this website who were accepted, rejected and waitlisted. I didn’t bother to waste my time to see where you fell…but frankly, it doesn’t matter.</p>
<p>Again, if you were a UVA applicant and felt you had a decent shot at being accepted…you’re awesome.</p>
<p>You will leave a mark on this world. Just be mindful that the mark you want to leave is a positive one.</p>
<p>Live, work and leave this world in a better place in which you found it. That should be the credo for the class of 2014.</p>
<p>I’m proud to say I am one of you. We have an awesome responsibility. Let’s do great things!</p>
<p>@ksharonda10, I had aimed my last post at your comment, “how does a student with perfect SAT scores not be accepted?” which I felt was making a bad assumption of admissions decisions. Anyway, it obviously was, as there have been people who didn’t get in, even with (near) perfect scores.</p>
<p>Thankfully, I checked up on some of your other posts on these forums. I do actually agree that rejections and acceptances do not reflect personal (or academic, even) value, but the opinion of an admissions officer. That’s all this is, anyway.</p>
<p>Again…all of you who were accepted…you go!!! Great job and we expect wonderful things from you.</p>
<p>Those who were waitlisted or rejected…you guys are awesome too. We all expect you to rock our world!! I’m a UVA waitlisted person - and although it would be great to be ultimately accepted - I’m ready to conquer the world.</p>
<p>Class of 2010 - let’s make this a better world!</p>
<p>Honestly every person who post on this board has the ability to succeed at UVA (I would know seeing as I by far had the lowest academic stats of anybody who was accepted and has posted here so far). All that matter is if your reader likes you or not. I remember a good analogy that a UNC admisions dean told my senior class. </p>
<p>Pretend thatthe reader is stuck in an airplane terminal for a few hours. Does your application make him want you to be the person that sits next to him and starts up a conversation with? </p>
<p>Also one thing I would ask is for those of you who were denied or waitlisted, when did you send in your application. Maybe sending it in too late caused them to be tired at the point it was read.</p>
<p>One final thing. If i’m correct applications are read based on stacks that carry a certain characteristics. For example legacy applicants have their own stack that is read by a person. Maybe some of you did not fall into a favorable stack. </p>
<p>@Virginiafan: Dean J said they don’t even see a date-stamp on the application, so it doesn’t matter one little bit whether you sent it in a week before or 2 minutes before the deadline.
And I don’t remember Dean J saying anything about different people reading different stacks, but maybe she did…</p>
<p>@Virginiafan- I live in Southern California and there are a good 4 or 5 legacies (including myself) and none of us got in. All flat out rejections. We all thought our legacy would play out to our advantage but apparently it did not. I go to a private school that struggles to send students to schools like UVA and UNC so I think how highly the college regards your high school is also very important.</p>
<p>it reeealllyy helps to be in-state. I got waitlisted last year, accepted to all the UC’s, Cornell, and Johns Hopkins. I’m betting I was good enough for UVa, but they give their residents priority. No hard feelings though…I wish berkeley would do the same :D</p>
<p>Just throwing my opinion out here: Most of the people at my school who have the best SAT scores do have worse transcripts. They are smart, but don’t apply themselves. People who are in semi-advanced math and read a lot, but can’t manage to do their homework. Despite the fact that they are National Merit Semi/Finalists, their GPA may be only 3.9 weighted. There is no way these students would be accepted at UVA.</p>