top 15 most prestigious universities

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<p>Quote (HOW THE HELL DO YOU REALLY QUOTE?) O_o
"my list so far (top 30) is:</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard University (USA)</li>
<li>Massachusetts Institute of Technology (USA)</li>
<li>Princeton University (USA)</li>
<li>University of Oxford (UK)</li>
<li>Stanford University (USA)</li>
<li>University of California, Berkeley (USA)</li>
<li>University of Cambridge (UK)</li>
<li>Yale University (USA)</li>
<li>University of California, Los Angeles (USA)</li>
<li>ETH Zurich (Switzerland)</li>
<li>Indian Institute of Technology (India)</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania (USA)</li>
<li>London School of Economics (UK)</li>
<li>Amherst College (LAC) (USA)</li>
<li>Williams College (LAC) (USA)</li>
<li>University of Hong Kong (Hong Kong)</li>
<li>Duke University (USA)</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University (USA)</li>
<li>Columbia University (USA)</li>
<li>National University of Singapore (Singapore)</li>
<li>University of Chicago (USA)</li>
<li>Ecole Normale Sup</li>
</ol>

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<p>helpwithresearch, UCLA is very prestigious on the West Coast (and East Asia in general) but not many East Coast and Midwest families are willing to send their children there. The AVERAGE East Coast family would rather send their child to Michigan (or Stanford) than UCLA. Overall, University of Michigan actually has a stronger global impact than UCLA. Most of Michigan’s research facilities are ranked in the top-15.</p>

<p>I agree that UCLA is ranked too high on your list. The fact you neglect to mention Michigan in your list is astounding IMO.</p>

<p>Stanford > Berkeley > Michigan > UCLA</p>

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<p>@tenisghs:
well, i turned down michigan for UCLA (as an international), so i did considerable research on this.</p>

<p>now let’s get down to some details, shall we? michigan’s acceptance rate this year was 50.3% (ann arbor only) while UCLA’s was 23.6%. also, i see you mentioned that many people aren’t willing to send their children to UCLA. while this may be true for easterns (and i know it is, to an extent), UCLA gets the highest number of applications in the United States (55K+)- so a lot of people most definitely want to get to UCLA.</p>

<p>so while i agree that stanford>berkeley>UCLA, i think UCLA>michigan.</p>

<p>i know people might disagree, but according to me, UCLA seemed better than uMich, and therefore, my decision. otherwise, umich MOST DEFINITELY is a good school and should be mentioned in that list somewhere. :)</p>

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<p>100% Tuna, as I stated earlier, UCLA is very strong in East Asia. If you’re planning to return to Asia, your choice with UCLA makes sense. </p>

<p>However, Michigan’s departments (law, business, engineering, social sciences, etc.) overall are better than UCLA. The rankings prove it. </p>

<p>That’s why Michigan > UCLA when it comes to global impact and research.</p>

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<p>i don’t disagree that michigan is highly ranked department-wise. but then why does usnews rank UCLA above uMich? UCLA=2nd best public school, uMich=3rd best (according to rankings). and seriously, i really thought uMich was very selective. the 50.3% was a shock! any idea why it’s so high?</p>

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<p>most of the top ten prestigious universities in the world are in america except cambridge and oxford …
we are proud of our universities</p>

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<p>The “shock” is from the fact you don’t understand this country very well. UCLA is in the largest state in population in this nation. It has almost 4 times as many residents as Michigan. California uses a common application among it’s state schools that allow residents to chose from all of the UCs with a check of a pencil. Testing scores overall between UCLA and Michigan are very similar, as well as their rankings, 25 and 26 at USNWR. In terms of overall academics, Michigan is slightly stronger. But then again, prestige is everything for certain people. Especially those coming from east Asia. By the way the admittance numbers were 42% last year. You are looking at old data as well.</p>

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<p>100% Tuna, Michigan’s acceptance rate is closer to 40%. The 50% acceptance rate is a couple of years old. But in terms of quality of students, Michigan and UCLA are roughly the same. 92% of Michigan students graduated in the top 10% of their high school class compared to 98% of UCLA students. And the mid 50% SAT/ACT ranges at both schools are roughly identical. The reason why UCLA accepts a lower percentage of students is because it is located in LA and is a state university at the most populous US state. That does not make it better. Michigan’s rating in academe is generally slightly higher than UCLA (Michigan’s peer assessment score is 4.4 whereas UCLA’s is 4.2) and Michigan is in a better financial situation than UCLA ($7.6 billion endowment compared to UCLA’s $2.3 billion endowment). </p>

<p>So that you can compare average scores, below are the admissions data for the year 2006-2007. Michigan has more recent data, but UCLA does not. At any rate, I don’t think things have changed much in the last couple of years. </p>

<p>Percentage graduating in the top 10% of their class:
Michigan: 90%
UCLA: 97%</p>

<p>Mid 50% SAT:
Michigan: 1210-1420
UCLA: 1180-1410</p>

<p>Mid 50% ACT:
Michigan: 27-31
UCLA: 24-30</p>

<p><a href=“Office of Budget and Planning”>Office of Budget and Planning;

<p><a href=“http://www.aim.ucla.edu/data/campus/general/CDS2006_2007.pdf[/url]”>http://www.aim.ucla.edu/data/campus/general/CDS2006_2007.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Like I said, the quality of the student body at both schools is identical…and impressive given their size. But Michigan tends to have a slightly strong reputation in academe and is better financially positioned thanks its endowment.</p>

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<p>WITH THE LACs!!!</p>

<p>Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford</p>

<p>Tier 2: Columbia, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Penn, CalTech, Williams, Amherst</p>

<p>Tier 3: Cornell, Chicago</p>

<p>WITHOUT THE LACs!!!</p>

<p>Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford</p>

<p>Tier 2: Columbia, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Penn, CalTech</p>

<p>Tier 3: Cornell, Chicago</p>

<p>Tier 4: Johns Hopkins, Northwestern</p>

<p>This is if 15 is the number…</p>

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<p>I’m surprised arizona state university isn’t listed!</p>

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<p>15 Most Prestigious US Universities (locally and internationally combined)</p>

<p>Harvard
Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT
UC Berkeley, Caltech, Columbia, Chicago, UPenn, Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Cornell, Michigan</p>

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<p>2009 Rankings by Yield/Admit_rate</p>

<p>Harvard
Stanford
Yale
MIT
Princeton
Columbia
Brown
Dartmouth
Penn
Cornell
Duke
Chicago
Northwestern
Johns Hopkins</p>

<p>*-- The yields did not consider the EA and waitlist effects, and the matriculation numbers are estimates.</p>

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<p>ewho,
Not sure how you got your listing above. Here is the data for the class that entered last year (Fall, 2008). Some of your Top 15 aren’t close (U Chicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins). Do you think that the numbers changed that radically during this most recent admissions cycle?</p>

<p>Rank , Yield/Admit Rate , Yield , Admit Rate , College</p>

<p>1 , 967% , 77% , 8% , Harvard
2 , 789% , 68% , 9% , Yale
3 , 748% , 71% , 9% , Stanford
4 , 590% , 59% , 10% , Princeton
5 , 556% , 66% , 12% , MIT
6 , 524% , 56% , 11% , Columbia
7 , 408% , 55% , 14% , Brown
8 , 365% , 49% , 13% , Dartmouth
9 , 365% , 62% , 17% , U Penn
10 , 238% , 45% , 19% , Georgetown
11 , 222% , 46% , 21% , Cornell
12 , 201% , 54% , 27% , Notre Dame
13 , 198% , 34% , 17% , Caltech
14 , 188% , 41% , 22% , UC Berkeley
15 , 181% , 40% , 22% , Duke
16 , 164% , 37% , 23% , UCLA
17 , 160% , 35% , 22% , USC
18 , 156% , 53% , 34% , U North Carolina
19 , 144% , 37% , 25% , Vanderbilt
20 , 138% , 30% , 22% , Wash U
21 , 135% , 38% , 28% , U Chicago
22 , 132% , 48% , 37% , U Virginia
23 , 131% , 33% , 25% , Rice
24 , 128% , 33% , 26% , Tufts
25 , 121% , 32% , 26% , Northwestern
26 , 120% , 30% , 25% , Johns Hopkins
27 , 109% , 46% , 42% , U Michigan
28 , 103% , 28% , 27% , Emory
29 , 90% , 35% , 38% , Wake Forest
30 , 75% , 29% , 38% , Carnegie Mellon</p>

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<p>It is very mess to show here, but here they are</p>

<p>Applied, Admitted, Admit rate(%), Matriculated, Yield (%), Y/A, School
29112, 2046, 7.02, 1658, 81, 11.5, Harvard
30428, 2300, 7.56, 1711, 74, 9.8, Stanford
26000, 1951, 7.50, 1318, 68, 9.0, Yale
15661, 1597, 10.20, 1067, 67, 6.5, MIT
21964, 2150, 9.79, 1243, 58, 5.9, Princeton
25428, 2497, 9.82, 1341, 54, 5.4, Columbia
24988, 2708, 10.83, 1558, 58, 5.3, Brown
18130, 2184, 12.05, 1095, 50, 4.1, Dartmouth
22939, 3926, 17.11, 2445, 62, 3.6, Penn
34381, 6567, 19.10, 3183, 48, 2.5, Cornell
23750, 4065, 17.12, 1716, 42, 2.4, Duke
13280, 3652, 26.80, 1328, 36, 1.3, Chicago
25385, 6864, 27.04, 2078, 30, 1.1, Northwestern
16123, 4318, 26.78, 1235, 29, 1.0, Johns Hopkins</p>

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<p>hawkette, I am out of time to editing the data. I see your way to display them which is much better. I don’t have the data for other schools, or I should say I don’t care much for the rest. Since you have all the data for last year, I would like to see you to create the complete list. Normalize the Y/A by dividing Harvard’s number, and it will look much better. The SAT effects are not that much sensitive to influence the Y/A. So Y/A makes much better sense, at least to me. I also assume that, like the stock charts reflecting a non-perfect efficiency markets, enough information will be reflected in this index.</p>

<p>Also,the yield should exclude the EA effects, which is too much to do. But, even a nice list of Y/A w/o eliminating EAs is very meaningful.</p>

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<p>I don’t have the breakdown of EA/ED and RD so I won’t be able to present as you suggest. Also, for this year’s numbers, I think it is still a bit premature as we don’t know the matriculation data and thus yields are just guesses. For example, I would guess that U Chicago, Northwestern, and Johns Hopkins, which all experienced rather modest changes in total applications,would be unlikely to move into the Top 15 ahead of the many colleges that ranked ahead of them last year, namely Georgetown, ND, Caltech, UCB, UCLA, USC, U North Carolina, Vanderbilt, Wash U.</p>

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<p>

That statement is pretty scary.</p>

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<p>By just looking at the list (this year’s or last year’s), there are less than ten schools which are sensitive to the Y/A ratio. The rest of 20+ schools are about the same, so they should be grouped as one tier below, all of them.</p>

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<ol>
<li> Starfleet Academy</li>
<li> Devry Technical Institute</li>
<li> University of Phoenix</li>
</ol>

<p>After that, all of the other players are pretty much the same . . .</p>

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<p>This thread is epic win.</p>