Top student deferred?

<p>I applied through the Priority application in September.
My stats:</p>

<p>2260 SAT
4.47 Weighted GPA
Class rank: about 20 (out of 460)
4 APs Senior Year
President of Debate Team, Editor of Newspaper, etc.
Good recs, academic awards like Governor's School
Decent essay</p>

<p>Not to sound pretentious or anything.. but I know people with 1800s and got B's in every class who got in. How did I get deferred? I really don't understand.</p>

<p>If anyone is willing to help explain my bafflement, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks.</p>

<p>I don't want to come off as sounding snobbish or anything but I'm just really confused.</p>

<p>Sometimes top students get deferred because the school does not think they will actually attend, especially if they have not demonstrated sufficient interest in the school.</p>

<p>Did you do the optional essay?</p>

<p>Yes: FutureVP is in the know: if a top student doesn't take the time to write the optional "why tulane" essay, then tulane knows you are just throwing your application over the transom to collect an acceptance pelt. They simply will not admit you. You could have had 2400's.</p>

<p>Me too! I have a lower SAT but otherwise pretty equivalent. I wrote a somewhat...lengthier....post about the same thing last night after I got my decision where I sound actually quite snobby in retrospect haha. Too bad you cant edit these things once you've calmed down. But same, I was just confused and really dissapointed. I applied really close to the deadline, I know people like the ones you mentioned who applied really really early and got in like a month ago so maybe that has something to do with it?</p>

<p>If you really want to have the pelt on your wall, just write a "why tulane" letter to tulanw and you will probably be accepted.</p>

<p>I wrote the "Why Tulane" - and I thought it was pretty good - but I still haven't heard and assume I'll be seeing a deferral or rejection. My stats were pretty decent: 2090 SAT; rank 5/576; UW GPA 3.95; National Hispanic Scholar; AP Scholar with Distinction (5s on all my APs); lots of leadership in ECs; blah blah blah. </p>

<p>I suppose they just didn't like my essays... or maybe since I haven't had the chance to visit Tulane yet (was planning to go in Feb) they think I'm not interested... or I just had lousy luck?</p>

<p>It is all a game they play to inflate their data for college rankings. They get (or purchase) a list of students with ACT scores over 32 or SAT over 2100, send them a "priority" application, waive application fee, and than defer them - knowing they probably are also applying to more selective schools and using Tulane as a safety. They love it.</p>

<p>Really glad I didn't see this before I applied. I got in in about a week from when I applied, the weekend before November 15. I didn't do the optional essay and showed no reason to want to go to Tulane (I don't, so yeah). Kind of assumed they would take me (slightly higher test scores and a perfect GPA). But I know people with similar stats as me who were deferred... it seems kind of random. Maybe they read mine earlier than yours and realized kind of late in the game that everyone was applying to them as their safety.</p>

<p>Sorry sharkey, but that is just silly. Take a look at the formula for USNWR rankings, and you will see that percent acceptance rate is about 1% of the weighting. That would be a huge amount of work and money spent for something that doesn't even move the needle. The factors that really affect rankings are peer/counselor assessments and 6 year graduation rates. Together those account for over 50% of the weighting.</p>

<p>If people are looking for perfect agreement between the stats of applicants and acceptance decisions, they will be disappointed. Not only is it not all based on stats, but it is a process done by human beings, and so while certainly not random, it also won't be perfectly consistent. That is why people that truly want to go to Tulane should let them know this.</p>

<p>stand by my statement</p>

<p>Tufts Syndrome</p>

<p>fallenchemist, student selectivity for the entering class counts for 15% of the ranking, and of this 15% , 40% is for students in top 10% of class, and 50% is for ACT/SAT scores.</p>

<p>That has nothing to do with what you said. That only counts for students that actually enroll, not those that just apply. You said it yourself, those weightings are for "the entering class". How can they enter if they haven't been accepted? How does deferring these students make an ounce of difference for that stat? In fact, saying Tufts Syndrome makes no sense either. The students were deferred, not rejected.</p>

<p>Sharkey is starting to sound like that old poster from pennsylvania.....</p>

<p>@jym626: I think you hit the nail on the head. Take a look at Sharkey's posting history: same snarky, know-it-all comments.</p>

<p>I'd just like to point out that although some strong students may get deferred, that is by no means the rule. For instance, I had a 34 ACT and got in with a 27k scholarship. I know a girl (who graduated from my school last year) who was stellar, but was wait listed at Tulane. Obviously, the adcom takes into account more than just the numbers, so you can't say they're rejecting strong applicants because they think they'll go elsewhere. Wouldn't the adcom want to put together the strongest class possible?</p>

<p>They defer/waitlist strong applicants if they have reason to believe they are not serious about Tulane. Again, this won't be 100%, there are always exceptions where someone didn't do the "Why Tulane" nor did they show up at Tulane events, but they get accepted anyway. Hard to know the reasons sometimes, but for the last few years it has gotten much more common for these students to be deferred/waitlisted.</p>

<p>You are right oceanicole, of course. Tulane is certainly trying to get the strongest class possible of students that really want to be at Tulane.</p>

<p>This was just posted by Jeff Schiffman, Senior Associate Director of Admissions at Tulane.</p>

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If you've applied to Tulane for our Early Action or Single Choice Early Action round, chances are that you have gotten a decision from us by now. For many of you, that decision may have been "The Admission Committee has chosen to defer final action on your application until our regular review periods this spring."</p>

<p>So, first off, what does that mean? In essence, being deferred means that we need a bit more time before making a final decision on whether or not to admit you. There are two major factors that will come into play from here on out; one is in your control and the other is not. Your application will come back to the admission committee in the spring and will go the same review it went through in Early Action, this time however you will be up against the Regular Decision pool of applicants.</p>

<p>The first factor, the one outside of your control, is the way the rest of the applicant pool shapes up. We will actually do a full re-review of your application with the regular decision pool. So depending on the competitiveness of that regular decision pool, we will make a new decision on your application before April 1st. If the regular pool is much larger and stronger than we expect, then it will be more of a challenge for deferred students to be admitted. However, it if is closer to what we saw with Early Action, we will be able to offer admission to a number of deferred students. Tulane is planning on enrolling a smaller class this year, (around 1500, as opposed to the 1650 that is has been the past few years), however it is still likely that we will admit a group of deferred students. We won't know more about this till after the January 15th deadline.</p>

<p>That brings me to the second factor that comes into play now that you have been deferred, and this is the one that is within your sphere of influence. This has to do with what you do from here on out now that you have been deferred. There are a number of things that you can do to strengthen and ameliorate your application to Tulane, and a few things you should probably not do. Here are my Dos and Don'ts for you deferred students:</p>

<p>DO: Contact your admission counselor and let him or her know you are interested in Tulane. You can reach out to your admission counselor here. You'll want to shoot him or her an e-mail in the coming weeks letting them know that you have been deferred and that you remain strongly interested in Tulane. Let your counselor know that you'll send your first semester grades and also feel free to let him or her know that Tulane is very high on your list. Feel free to ask them what you can do to strengthen your application.</p>

<p>DON'T: Over-Contact your admission counselor. A few e-mails to your counselor over the course of the spring semester will help, especially if you have some bigger news for us (you re-took the SATs, a major (major) advancement in your extracurricular activity, etc) but do not send us a weekly e-mail update. It will not help your cause. Major profile in your local paper's community section? Send it in. Promoted to secretary of the National Honor Society? No need to send; we already have a nice list of your extracurricular activities you sent us when you applied.</p>

<p>DO: Send us an essay about why you are interested in enrolling at Tulane, if you have not already done so. See the prompt on the application for admission. Tell us why you would be a great fit here, and why Tulane is a great fit for you. Do some research.</p>

<p>DON'T: Feel pressured to come down and visit. We know money is tight these days, and New Orleans is a big trip for many of our applicants. If you feel the need to come down to express your interest in Tulane in person, you are definitely welcome to do so, however if this is not possible (for financial or any other reasons) do not fret. We understand not everyone can make it down to visit, especially if you are not admitted yet. If you are interested in coming down, let your counselor know.</p>

<p>DO: Be patient. Understand you may not hear from us before April 1st. We are working to get a decision to you as quickly as possible, but in some cases it may not be till late March. We're sifting through thousands of applicants and are giving each one the time they deserve.</p>

<p>DON'T: Compare yourself to others. Calling the admission office or e-mailing your counselor to inquire why Suzie and Johnny who have lower scores and lower grades and fewer extracurricular activities will never, ever help your cause to be admitted at Tulane. We don't compare students to each other directly when they apply, and are always looking to build a diverse and well-rounded class of students. You may not be aware of what is in other student's recommendations, essays, etc., or what we here at Tulane may specifically be looking for. It will not do you any good to mention other students. If there is a very specific question about this, your high school counselor can direct those questions to us. (This DON'T applies to scholarship requests as well, FYI)</p>

<p>DO: Send us some additional materials. You are welcome to send us a new recommendation, resume, essay, your first semester grades, a new SAT or ACT score, etc. While some of the smaller things may not make a big difference, an increase on your SATs, or a nice well-written essay all about your Tulane visit can go a long way. Mid year reports are recommended for deferred students.</p>

<p>DON'T: Be rude. We know this is a stressful time and we know that you may be very excited about Tulane and disappointed to not be admitted. But keep in mind that you still want to maintain your composure and maturity while communicating with the office of admission. Dramatic e-mails or calls will get you nowhere.</p>

<p>DO: Understand how competitive this all is. As of today, Tulane has admitted fewer than 25% of the students who have applied to Tulane. Application to schools like Tulane can be competitive, and we have far fewer spots in the class available than we have number of students who desire to be a part of the class. So keep your head up and know that, in the end, whatever is meant to be will be.</p>

<p>Hope this helps you deferred students out there. Best of luck!

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