<p>I believe that was supposed to be “churchies” (although I’ve never heard of such a word), meaning they are church going people since the parents mentioned speaking to both their minister and the teacher’s minister.</p>
<p>we really don’t know all that happened in the church as much was hidden and covered up by the church itself</p>
<p>and doing ten times #s is not valid statistically anyway</p>
<p>how many kids are in public school vs number of kids going to Catholic church</p>
<p>if it got little notice it could mean the study was flawed</p>
<p>“I believe that was supposed to be “churchies” (although I’ve never heard of such a word), meaning they are church going people since the parents mentioned speaking to both their minister and the teacher’s minister”</p>
<p>Yep, fingers don’t always hit the keys just right. Like trekies, chruchies are folks that are REALLY into it. Deep Deep devotion to God and church. The ones I know of that have gone this route are this type. Prayer at the drop of a hat, Jesus this and Jesus that. Would never think of permarital sex as it’s a sin… Sooooooo… you get situations like this. This ain’t the first time this kind of thing has happened. </p>
<p>Maybe they’re into God so much that it isn’t perversion, just passion of the christ. </p>
<p>people believe differently and behave differently in their personal relationship with God. Kind tough to call em a pervert if they are praying about it and want to get married…?</p>
<p>Again not something I approve of…</p>
<p>“Opie-are you from Hunterdon County New Jersey?”</p>
<p>nope other coast, King and Snohomish county Washington.</p>
<p>me thinks that when a person “prays” about something, they can often get the answer they want to hear, imagine!!!</p>
<p>One can pray about anything and claim God said it was okay…no matter how perverse, many men have done that…thought what they were doing was okay because it was Gods plan- david koresh comes to mind</p>
<p>opie, you are on the money</p>
<p>“How do we know he didn’t break any laws, all we have is him saying he didn’t…because nobody did much to stop his pursuing this student…”</p>
<p>I think if he did, it would have been pretty easy for her folks to contact the police RATHER than the Television station. </p>
<p>Sometimes when people do something we find distasteful we need to find something to demonize them. It’s easier that way. From what I’ve seen so far they’re churchies (see definition above) as they both had their respective pastors speak to them about the situation. I’m guessing as I don’t know the bible all that well but is there anything in there that discourages this? There seems to be alot of these type of situations among the deeply religious. </p>
<p>Anyone know any bible verses against marriage age differences?</p>
<p>interesting that because they claim “religion” we as a society are supposed to go, well, gee whiz then, go ahead and chase a 14 year old, you old man…</p>
<p>bible also says, to some people, that you can beat your child…does that make it okay…</p>
<p>you can basically justify anything you want by taking some quote somewhere from the bible, or saying, well, the bible doesn’t explicity say no, so must be okay…</p>
<p>as for demonizing, this coach was not a “nice guy”… he was a preditor who went after a 14 year old girl…and just because in his church or whatever, there was no specific age about which it was wrong to chase a teen girl, does not make it okay, what, just because the bible doesn’t have a specific rule about age, guess it would be okay to go after ten year olds, after all, many men have done that saying it was Gods will…</p>
<p>there was a fire in the south, and nine fire fighters died…the fire chief mentioned that these were all good Christian men…what the heck did that mean? that if a jewish fire fighter had died, it would somehow be less horrid?</p>
<p>"One can pray about anything and claim God said it was okay…no matter how perverse, many men have done that…thought what they were doing was okay because it was Gods plan- david koresh comes to mind</p>
<p>opie, you are on the money"</p>
<p>NOw that’s scary. I was thinking of David Koresh while I was typing it. </p>
<p>I almost married into a Penacostal family a long time ago, ministers daugther. The more layers they peeled back and more I looked around the congregation, the sicker it became. Not a big fan of who can talk in tounges the loudest. But she was beautiful though and wanted out. I just didn’t want in.</p>
<p>did a bit of research on the hofstra report by the one researcher, interesting information</p>
<p>she herself says the findings were skewed, her numbers are “extrapolations” of "data’ she collected, the biggest supporters of the report were Catholic websites and those that are for charter schools and privitizing public education</p>
<p>she says 1 in 15 public school kids has been subjected to serious sexual abuse…hmmm…sorry, sounds a bit high to me</p>
<p>always look at who and why someone is doing a study</p>
<p>HH is right. The priest abuse scandals, while horrible, are not more frequent than the abuse suffered at the hands of public school teachers & coaches. </p>
<p>CGM: Are you aware that almost 25% of the population is Catholic? That’s an awful lot of contact at church & in Catholic schools that is entirely wholesome & appropriate. The priest abuse is doubly disturbing, I think, because they hold roles of authority & respect, like teachers, but their vows require behavior & sacrifices above what is expected of laypeople.</p>
<p>Just an aside: Peru just voted to allow 14 yr. old to be age of consent for consensual sex. Wow, child predators will love that new law.</p>
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<p>Or it could mean that most media outlets decided to shelve it, as they have done with so many other studies that don’t fit their PC, pro-Democrat agenda (most especially the the many studies that have been done of the negative effects of early daycare on kids). Truthfully, I’ve never heard any stories done on NPR or CNN on predatory teachers in the public schools, although every single person seems to have an anecdote about it occurring going back forty years or more. The only media outlet I consistently see stories about the issue on is Fox (mostly O’Reilly), and even those are just the tip of the iceberg; have your local public school teacher-predators been mentioned on tv? Mine haven’t been.</p>
<p>Personally, I think it makes more sense to have an age-differential basis for laws concerning consensual sex among teens. That is, an 18 year old having consensual sex with a 17 year old is OK, but not a 40 year old and a 17 year old.</p>
<p>Doesn’t this make sense? I’d hate to think that suddenly my son who has been dating the same girl since he was 17 and she 16 is now in danger of going to prison just because he turns 18.</p>
<p>Don’t name your kid ‘windy’.</p>
<p>^My first thought.</p>
<p>“Windy” is a British euphemism for having gas; as in “I’m feeling a bit windy today”. ----
This whole situation is totally ick - but I do have to share a personal anecdote. When I was a teen, I was in a Church youth group, and we had a very cool youth leader of about mid-30’s who was also a tennis coach. He formed a strong friendship with one of the teens in the group, (or they formed a friendship together; she obviously adored him), and they continued as friends until she turned 18…at which point he formally asked her parents if they would give permission for him to date her. They did, since they really liked this guy, and the two of them were married the following year. As far as I know, they are still married many years later. I really liked the guy, and I know they really loved each other…</p>
<p>A couple people are relating stories of teachers/coaches who eventually married students. But I think that is different once the student is 18, even if some think that is distasteful. But in this situation in the news, the student is 16 and in high school. I see that as quite different. They could have waited until she was out of high school and 18. Just speaking of that aspect now and not the other inappropriate aspects.</p>
<p>I think it is inappropriate for a teacher to begin a relationship when the student is underage, even if that relationship doesn’t reach “fruition” until the boy/girl is 18. I was even under the impression that college professors are not supposed to carry on with their students, due to the power differential.</p>
<p>for years sex consent was 14 in Georgia(remeber Rob Lowe?) It was his photographing of her that was illegal. Don’t know the current law there now.</p>
<p>they people that ballyhooed the abuse “report” where, suprise Catholic papers…</p>
<p>as well, the study was flawed, she didn’t even interview any kids, she interviewed college women and did some math, and volia, a “serious” issue</p>
<p>me thinks she should have interviewed a few kids, don’t you think?</p>