Traditional asian parents? Or psychotic parents?

<p>lol. It’s so messed up when your parents hurt you because they want the best for you (well, the best for the family, I guess, but it would still be what seems like success to other people)… it’s a bit harder to hate them because of that.</p>

<p>You do get used to it.</p>

<p>Anyway, Duckie, I think it’s right that you’re focusing on getting out of there and going to a good college. But remember not to let them control you there too… like pressuring you into a certain major or into certain classes, etc. It seems a bit crazy, but she’d do it.</p>

<p>yeah, I know she would. It also doesnt help when your mother has rapid mood swings. One minute she’s raving hopping mad, another minute she’s telling me why I’m ‘doing this to her, she’s so weak and old’ in this sad piteous voice. </p>

<p>Example:</p>

<p>“I have so many aches and pains, I give you all this money to take these classes, why can’t you respect me? Why don’t you listen to me?” <– and then sometimes she adds tears to that.</p>

<p>haha, yeah. or like she’s yelling at you and in one of her moods, then my dad also starts yelling at me then she suddenly stops and is all like ‘no, don’t’ to my dad and asks me why I ‘do this to her’ when she made up the whole issue to begin with.</p>

<p>psychos!</p>

<p>my mom yells at me for not studying enough and my dad yells at me for spending his money on too many books for school. sometimes they’re so loud that I can hear them shouting while still in the elevator in our building.</p>

<p>mm…yes. Thats usually how it goes.</p>

<p>flaming0duckie – apply to a CSU early in the year as your personal “safety”. You probably can get into UCSD and all will be well, but if your mom does withdraw financial support, you can afford to put yourself through a CSU with a part time job if needed. It isn’t easy, but plenty of kids do it. It certainly isn’t ideal and I sure hope that you don’t face that problem… but if somewhere along the line there is a big blowup with your family, that is the kind of thing that is nice to have to fall back on. CSU’s have rolling admissions, so you don’t want to wait too late to apply.</p>

<p>Yeah, I was thinking about that. Also, I’m looking into scholarships.</p>

<p>Hey all, I’m going to bounce for a while. I’ll check back on this thread later. Please keep it alive! Ill bet you there are tons of kids out there, asian or not, who are in the same annoying predicament. The number one thing we need is support. I CAN go where I want with or WITHOUT my parents.</p>

<p>I believe that. :] ciao.</p>

<p>Duckie, I’m just a mom, but I think you need to find some counseling. Perhaps your GC at school or minister would be a place to start, but what you are experiencing is not healthy for you or your mom. (Actually, I have some sympathy for your mom – she may be suffering from anxiety/depression/hormonal changes, although that doesn’t excuse the behavior.)</p>

<p>You’ve received some good advice about enlisting your father’s help, but either way, you need to do something. I’m not Asian, but I have friends from various backgrounds. Most parents want what’s best for their kids, including acceptance in a college that would meet their intellectual and emotional needs, but sometimes cultural influences get in the way. Maybe you could show your father some of the comments from this thread, so that he can understand more about how you feel and how this behavior is viewed by other parents of college-seeking students. I’m sure your mother loves you, but this isn’t exactly a good way to show it. As Curmudgeon said, you do not have to tolerate abuse – physical, verbal or emotional – and have the right to seek help outside of your family. Please talk to someone about this, and let us know what your plan is. For most parents, this is very disturbing.</p>

<p>Finally, you might want to maintain awareness of this when you have your own family. Abuse can be a learned behavior, and you must stop the chain.</p>

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<p>Really good site to find scholarships and internships. </p>

<p>I think you can do it with or without them too, duckie. =]</p>

<p>As a parent, I can’t imagine one could behave so irrationally and yet driven by love. One rational explanation, pardon the pun, as suggested by previous posts, is that it’s a medical condition. So get her the medical help needed, if you still love her.</p>

<p>Thanks folks. I’m going to dinner now LOL.</p>

<p>Duckie, is there anyone at all who your mother respects or would listen to if he talked to her about her anger and behavior? Someone who might convincingly explain that her tirades are likely to have the opposite effect on you and probably prevent you from achieving your goals due to the stress she is creating? I’m thinking of a priest/minister/spiritual advisor, an elder relative, or maybe a close friend whose own children have met your mother’s idea of success? If there is no one besides your father, at least be sure to inform him of each and every event and ask him to intervene. Ask your father point blank if your parent’s funding of your college education depends on you being accepted into her list of schools. Also ask what ideas he has for coping with the situation, other than calling the police or CPS. Is there a close friend or relative with whom you could live until you leave for college? I’ve known quite a few people who spent their last year or two of high school living with friends or relatives instead of their parents. </p>

<p>While I respect curmudgeon’s advice, I don’t completely agree with his assumption that your mother will actually act on her threats about the knife. At least I truly hope she’s not that far gone. But none of us can know for sure. If you ever suspect that she might indeed act on her threats, then get out fast & call the police. Let her deal with the consequences. People have and still do work their way through college, and you can find a way to achieve your goals without parental help if that’s the way things work out.</p>

<p>Just so you know, I’m a mom of two college students. I’m also the daughter of a woman who wished I’d never been born and told me so repeatedly. In her rages she cracked the dashboard of her car by pounding her fist, she left bloody welts on my thighs from beating me with the buckle end of my father’s belts, and she hit me across the face with her shoes. </p>

<p>The physical abuse stopped when I finally pushed her away & she fell on her rear while attempting to once again slap my face with her shoe. At least I learned a lesson about bullies. My response to the continued verbal abuse was to leave high school after 11th grade & attend a university as far away as I was permitted to go (a full day’s drive) when I was 16. From that point on, I spent as little time as possible around her, but I maintained a cordial relationship, just to be able to see my father. When I had children, I let them have a relationship with my parents, but did not trust her alone with my kids. They loved their grandfather, but have no feelings for her. She has only been interested in being able to brag about their accomplishments & never cared about them as people. Once my dad died, I expressed my sympathy. Since then, I have not had any contact with her (that’s her preference.) You know what? It’s her loss. </p>

<p>Your mother may very well be certifiable - I’m not qualified to say. It’s possible that no amount of talking by anyone will change her behavior. Then all you can do is get out and take care of yourself. I hope that your father has enough backbone to look out for his child and do the right thing no matter what your mother says. He can’t act if he doesn’t know your side of the story, though. If you’re unable to talk with your dad alone after one of your mom’s rages, then write down what happened. Document each incident and give your dad a copy. Keep in mind that some parents like this will lie about their child’s efforts at self-defense. She may claim that you struck her or attacked her, and it was unprovoked. My father didn’t know the truth until years after I moved out, and it broke his heart to realize that he’d failed to protect me. </p>

<p>I wish you all the best.</p>

<p>One other question for Duckie: how old are you? when do you turn 18? You may also want to plan an “escape” route from your house, even if it is only a friend who you can stay with temporarily when things get really rough at home. Once you are 18, you would have every right to move out permanently – this doesn’t necessarily require money – there are probably other families of high school friends who would be willing to take you in if they knew how rough things were at home. Of course they will take you in when you are under 18, as well, but then they would need your parents’ permission. </p>

<p>I agree that your mom probably needs psychiatric help, but I don’t think it is your job to get it for her. I think you need to focus on protecting yourself, emotionally and physically, first.</p>

<p>^ Good advice. </p>

<p>Although I really don’t think you should hit back.</p>

<p>Duckie-</p>

<p>I just wanted you to know that even though you feel like your mother is crazy (and I would tend to agree) that you aren’t alone in this. You’re right, such situations aren’t common, and they aren’t normal, and they aren’t OK. But you can get through this. I think parental abuse is a lot more common than people think - there are a lot of strong people like you who have dealt with this in whatever way they know how (from reporting to the authorities to waiting it out) and eventually end up doing ok. I think you will be one of these people, and stronger for it. </p>

<p>Please remember also that verbal abuse is ABUSE and it is a problem. I know you said that you don’t care what she thinks, but I think even if her opinions don’t matter intellectually to you, it’s really hard to be screamed at at threatened. You shouldn’t need to be dealing with this. Don’t minimize the importance of this.</p>

<p>I don’t know what you should do. I was, at times, faced with situations that were quite different than yours but perhaps distant cousins of your situation, and I was never pleased with how I handled it. You have a range of options above, and I don’t have much to add to it.</p>

<p>But know that you will make it through this - whether you get into a school your mom likes or not. Trust me. You will.</p>

<p>One thing that was touched on is that this problem might not just fade away after you get to college. I have a feeling that for your mother this is not actually about where you go to college, but about power and control and anger and fear. And that doesn’t just go away. I hope, for your sake, that you are right and that when you go things will simmer down - but if this is not the case, you might want to seek help (either for you, or for her, or both). You don’t need to live with abuse forever - physical OR verbal. </p>

<p>Good luck to you, duckie.</p>

<p>Ah thanks guys for all the comments and advice!
Robi - Things worked out pretty decently for you, despite her right? Its like its conditional love. How annoying.</p>

<p>but in any case, I just turned 17, actually, so there’s no legally moving out yet. </p>

<p>Well, I’m doing this for myself. I have tons of friends who agree my mother is psychotic and they will support me to the end, if I do fall. Thanks for listening!</p>

<p>Great job , board. You’ve done yourselves proud. It is times like this that we are at our collective best by using our individual perspectives. The whole becomes greater than the sums of its parts. Op. I hope you are getting what you need. You do seem like a survivor to me, too. Protect yourself.</p>

<p>Dear Duckie,
It’s hard to think of you living in this situation for another year, particularly sharing curmudgeon’s fears for your safety – both physical and emotional. It’s going to feel great to have a college acceptance in your hand and to know that you’re on your way out of there. In the meantime, it would be great if you could get some support from a kind, rational adult who has experience assessing this kind of situation and working with kids. Does your school have a counselor you can talk to? Are you affiliated with a church that has a youth minister you like? It would also be nice if you could get out of your home, at least for some relief when it gets really hard to take. Do you have relatives in town you might be able to stay with? Would your parents let you stay with a good friend for long periods? It concerns me when you talk about your friends supporting you if you fall. It is wonderful that you have friends who love and support you – you sound like a great kid who would attract that kind of friends – but what do you mean exactly by “fall”? It doesn’t sound good, and I’m wondering what you were envisioning when you wrote it.</p>

<p>Would your mother agree to meet with a guidance counselor at your school presumably to discuss college? If a counselor heard the intensity of her desire for certain UCs, he/she might be able to give her some perspective. If she grew angry in the meeting, it might send up a red flag. If you were to tell a teacher or counselor what you have told us, someone would make a report because they are mandated to report. If someone else made a report it would be easier for you but, ultimately, she would figure it out. What about your older brother? Has he tried to talk any sense into her? Is your dad open to family counseling? Have you asked him to go with you to see a therapist (who, again, will be mandated to report)? Even if she didn’t go, it would be helpful for the two of you to go. Your father might get some good suggestions to empower him to deal with your mother and might be able to clarify with him what your financial resources are for college. I agree with the person who suggested having an escape plan. You should keep your cell phone somewhere where you can grab it and run as well as keys, etc. You might want to keep a small bag packed in case you ever need to get out fast and, if and when she is volatile, never get into a room where the exit is blocked from you. Try to be somewhere with more than one exit and know what those exits are and be prepared to use them.</p>

<p>One time, my mother popped up at school and demanded that I take her to my counselor to find out “what kind of nonsense she’s been teaching me”</p>

<p>Mimi, believe me, doing something like that would make it 100x worse. I’ve already tried it, and it failed, miserably.</p>

<p>Nester, when I mean by fall, I mean the times when i let her words get to me and I need someone to support me.</p>

<p>Right now, my defenses against her are fortress strong. She’s just annoying as hell right now. -_-;</p>