Transfer student needs NY school with good Physics/math that accepts upward trend GPA

<p>Smooth…I said the courses would,have been useful if the student had passed them AND remained at that college for his degree. </p>

<p>But it doesn’t matter…fact is, he attended and the transcripts need to be sent to any college to which he applies. How the colleges treat that old transcript is up to each school. </p>

<p>This student needs to work WITH his transfer advisor at the CC to identify colleges that will accept him have articulation agreements with the CC, and where he has the potential to finish his degree in a timely fashion and still qualify for aid.</p>

<p>Need 10 more credits to graduate, attended current community college for 1 year now (2 semesters). 2 more years required to obtain a bachelor’s, assuming all credits are accepted when transferring. The articulation agreements for liberal arts and sciences that I heard of during the college transfer fair/transfer workshop were mostly for expensive private schools, else the CUNY/SUNY schools are out of GPA reach (such as Stony Brook).</p>

<p>Is this current semester your 3rd semester at CUNY and you will have 50 credits when it is over? If you only need 10 credits take the 10 credits in the spring and graduate spring 2014. While you may not be eligible to attend the school that you want, there is no way that you are not going to be able to attend a SUNY/CUNY school with an associates degree. You are just going to have to apply more broadly.</p>

<p>At this point, I don’t care about CUNY/SUNY anymore. I am just looking for any school that has even a program at all, and financial aid would cover everything or the school provides a full scholarship.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately, this will be highly unlikely. You need to have an affordable option.</p>

<p>What exactly does “affordable option” entail? If there are no schools that can give me enough financial aid to attend, does that pretty much mean I cannot go to college?</p>

<p>You really need to look at Buffalo State College.</p>

<p>So is the OP the student?</p>

<p>One thing you need to realize…full rides to college are not very plentiful anywhere. In other words, finding a college where ALL of your costs will be covered will be very hard to find. These options are not common at all. </p>

<p>If you went to college initially in 2006, it is likely that you are independent for financial aid purposes. This means you would be eligible for $7500 in Direct Loans plus an additional $5000 as an independent student.</p>

<p>OP, what IS your financial situation? How much can YOU fund of your college costs? Are you living at home with your parents? Can you continue to do so at a four year SUNY or CUNY near your home.</p>

<p>Finding an affordable option means finding something within your budget. It might also mean working full time to save money, and going to college part time. It could mean working full time to save money. It could mean working part time and going to school part time.</p>

<p>I would agree…finish your associates degree. I find it VERY hard to believe that there isn’t a SUNY or CUNY campus where you WILL be accepted. I also find it very hard to believe that your CC has NO articulation agreements with the public universities in your state. An articulation agreement means that if you satisfactorily complete the CC requirements, you WILL be accepted at the four year school and your credits will transfer. </p>

<p>You need to talk to the transfer person at your community college. I find it very hard to believe that there are NO instate options at public universities for you. Sorry…I just find it hard to believe.</p>

<p>It might be worth contacting some of the physics and math faculty directly at the schools of most interest. Perhaps you will be lucky to encounter someone sympathetic who would think that those religion courses have absolutely no bearing on this student’s potential to succeed in a STEM program, and that the student has very clearly moved beyond whatever caused that massive failure. Averaging the two completely different programs together is a meaningless exercise, but evidently the admissions office needs some help to see beyond that.</p>

<p>I cannot fund any of my college costs. Yes, I am staying at a friend’s house in exchange for doing favors since I don’t have money to give. I am not sure if I will be able to stay here because the impression was that I would be transferring next semester, and thus moving into a dorm covered by financial aid. Though, I may be able to talk to my friend about staying for a couple more years. There are no CUNY or SUNY schools within walking distance from here. One of them is about an hour away and the rest of them about a 2 hour trip away via mass transit. I have been walking to and from my community college until now so I didn’t have to worry about transportation fees, but this might be a slight concern for me.</p>

<p>I have e-mailed the transfer advisor and will set up an appointment for whenever I can.</p>

<p>I am hopeful that the transfer advisor will be able to help you.</p>

<p>I, too, find it hard to believe that there is no CUNY or SUNY that would accept a student with a 3.9 GPA and an AA in a physics/math oriented curriculum from a NY CC because 7 years ago the student had a disastrous year at a bible college.</p>

<p>Affordability is another issue… Definitely, talking with the transfer advisor is an excellent step to take. Best of luck to you.</p>

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<p>Stop, stop, stop.</p>

<p>If you are a student with a 0 EFC, Tap has covered your tuition at community college where tuition is $4200 and max TAP is $5000. What ever Pell that you were eligible for was disbursed to you after paying fees.</p>

<p>should you go to a 4 year CUNY, your tap and pell will cover the cost for you to attend. You may have to get a job so that you can rent a room or pay your way if you are crashing with other people. </p>

<p>Once again, while you may not be admitted to CCNY, there are 10 other 4 year CUNY schools, which at least one of them will admit you automatically when you get your associates.</p>

<p>Again, it may not be your first choice, but you can attend and complete a bachelors. You can complete a degree in Physics at Queens, Hunter, Lehman, Brooklyn, CSI (minimally Lehman and or CSI will admit you. Again, these may not be your first choice, but you can complete a degree without debt). If you need your own place, you can use the direct loans and pay for dorms at CSI, Queens, Hunter.</p>

<p>Your job will be to take advantage and make the most of what ever opportunities are available at that school, get good recommendations, kill the GRE so that you can go on to grad school (minimally the graduate center at CUNY).</p>

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<p>Out of curiosity, is there a maximum time limit for SAT scores before they’re no longer considered good and thus, must be retaken? </p>

<p>I’m just wondering as I read on the GRE site that scores are only considered good for five years. If one is applying to grad school after that five year window, the applicant needs to retake them again.</p>

<p>Just posing this as another possible issue to think about considering 8 years or more has passed since the OP’s student’s SAT administration.</p>

<p>For most transfer students, the college record is more important than the old SAT scores.</p>

<p>This student should NOT retake the SAT. That test is designed for high school students, not students who have completed two years of college level courses.</p>

<p>I agree with Sybbie…LOTS of options!</p>

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<p>For most, yes. However, OP’s student has an issue of having flunked all courses at his/her first college and unless transfer applications for some of OP’s schools have drastically changed, they do ask for SAT scores. </p>

<p>There’s also a factor the SAT scores OP’s student submitted/mentioned was from 2005 which is nearly 9 years ago now. </p>

<p>For the GRE, if the scores being submitted are more than 5 years old, they’re no longer considered good and applicants would be expected to retake for their GRE scores to be considered valid. </p>

<p>At the very least, OP’s student needs to check if he/she needs to retake the SAT or not for his/her specific case.</p>

<p>student has accumulated more than 50 college credits and is almost finished with an associates degree. Taking the SAT at this juncture is just going to be a waste of his $57, where he is already strapped for cash and not eligible for a fee waiver.</p>

<p>Cobrat…the OP IS the student.</p>

<p>The student is applying to UNDERGRAD programs and is NOT using the GRE at all. How did the GRE even get into this discussion?</p>

<p>After failing all you first semester bible classes, why did you go back for another semester?</p>

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<p>I mentioned it because they are both standardized tests and in the GRE case, there’s a definite time limit on how long scores are valid before an applicant would need to retake, 5 years. </p>

<p>While I recalled the SATs I took also had a time limit, many things have changed since then. </p>

<p>I made my post so the OP could verify whether he/she needs to retake/worry about this or not…especially considering he/she has had a rocky earlier academic career and the transfer apps from some of those schools do require SAT scores. </p>

<p>It’s at least something the OP needs to verify to be 100% sure and if he/she verifies that the retake isn’t needed and/or the SATs are a non-factor, great.</p>