<p>I find this crime incomprehensible. It is almost getting to the point that I can’t watch or read the news anymore. This horrible crime along with a girl stabbed on her prom day in a CT high school, a co-ed lured to her death in New Hampshire. There is just too much crazy to process lately.
<a href=“Photography - Chicago Tribune”>Photography - Chicago Tribune;
<p>what is going on? females far more rarely engage in these types of crimes. what has changed?</p>
<p>This makes a case for parents being privy to their children’s online habits and access to their cell phones & social media accounts. Had it not been for the passerby, this poor girl would have died. Slaughtered by these two animals. I pray she makes a full recovery, unfortunately she will carry scars for the rest of her life. </p>
<p>Extremely disturbing. </p>
<p>Reminds me strongly of Heavenly Creatures, as well as Leopold and Loeb. Absolutely horrifying.</p>
<p>I do not agree, however, with charging them as adults. They are NOT adults. They do not have adult experience or adult brains, no matter how horrific their acts.</p>
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<p>It’s rare to win the lottery, someone still wins it. Nothing’s changed. </p>
<p>@Consolation </p>
<p>So should they be given leniency and allowed to go on with their lives at 18? Is 6 years enough for such a heinous act? To lure another human being in the woods, stab her and leave her to die? I wonder if we would feel the same if two boys had perpetrated such a crime?</p>
<p>We should not be selective when it comes to the law. These girls need to be put away for a long, long time.</p>
<p>I agree with Consolation. I don’t believe any minor child should be tried as an adult. Ever. </p>
<p>The reason why children are typically given more leniency is because we want them to be productive adult members of society when they become adults, and it’s very possible they could grow up to be such because they haven’t fully formed their adult selves yet. I don’t know the facts of the case but the gender wouldn’t affect my opinion. </p>
<p>So yes, it could be reasonable that they leave a juvenile facility at 18 (or 21 or 25) and go on and get a job and work and pay taxes. </p>
<p>From the articles I’ve read it looks like to me one of the girls was more “in charge” of the whole thing. I have to wonder if when they get to trial if they get different sentences. Granted they both plotted it but one did all the stabbing. Given their age I would think being the one doing the stabbing should get more time than the one who didn’t.</p>
<p>I dont think generally 12 yr olds should be charged as adults.
They still have evidence of magical thinking, especially in this case.</p>
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<p><a href=“Anissa Weier: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know”>http://heavy.com/news/2014/06/anissa-weier-morgan-geyser-slender-man-stabbing-suspects/</a></p>
<p>I think they were equally complicit. One did the stabbing but the other hatched the plan.</p>
<p>There is a 14 year old in MA that murdered his teacher last fall - in cold blood - at Danvers High, not sure if you all read about it – he was charged a and will be tried as an adult because of the horrific thing he did to this lovely young lady… I personally don’t want this boy out on the street anytime soon</p>
<p>I agree that they shouldn’t be tried as adults. I teach kids as old as eleven and I just can’t imagine any of them committing a crime with the same thought process as an adult. I do wish there was some compromise between being tried as a juvenile and being free at 18 and being tried as an adult with a life sentence.</p>
<p>As far as the magical thinking goes, I am interested to hear more information as to the state of mind of these girls. A psychologist on TV stated that there is no difference between a twelve year and an adult in regard to their capacity to distinguish reality from fantasy. If that is true then what exactly is wrong with these girls? Did one of them have a psychotic break and the other got roped in? Do they just have extremely active imaginations? </p>
<p>I saw a bit of the court appearances on TV and the father of the victim was just sobbing. I can only imagine how it would feel to be him and know that your child was tricked and nearly killed by her friends and to know that she will carry the scars, both physical and emotional for the rest of her life.</p>
<p>Momofboymidma,
That is another case that just scared the you know what out of me. Soooo scary. That boy attacked a youth services worker this week, too. Followed her into a locker room and assaulted her. What an animal. That’s why I wish there was something other than the options we have in terms of sentencing.</p>
<p>I know when I was eleven, I still thought like a child. For example, I didnt know or think about where babies came from. They just were. It was a huge shock when my neighbor told me.
I cant imagine any huge change happening from 11-12.</p>
<p>This really illustrates why parents need to be aware of what their kids are exposed to. From books to the internet.</p>
<p>This may be a possibility or a defense in the very least. (induced delusional disorder)</p>
<p><a href=“Folie à deux - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_à_deux</a></p>
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<a href=“Emotional contagion - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_contagion</a></p>
<p>Who knows…</p>
<p>What we do know is something is really wrong with these two girls. Its going to take a great deal of therapy to figure it out.</p>
<p>I also know a kid who is an absolute sociopath. She was wired differently than the rest of us when she was born. She would do this in a heartbeat and force others to go along with her under fear of their own death. However she didn’t need an internet goblin to get her going…she would do it for the pure excitement of it. She frightens me…really frightens me</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how this thread unfolds compared to the rather lengthy thread about the Isla Vista killer. Will people be blaming the parents as well? Of course this one has nothing to do with guns, so we don’t have to have the gun debate. </p>
<p>I think even more than a 23 yr old, parents should be aware how their 12 yr olds are spending their time.
My twelve yr olds shared a computer with me. </p>
<p>@emeraldkity4 </p>
<p>But many parents say that we should never invade our children’s privacy. Remember Columbine? My children were tiny when that occurred. What stuck out to me most about that case is that the killers were allowed to concoct such a diabolical scheme under their parents noses. How is that possible? Pregnant teens that kill their babies upon delivery, or the horrible bullying that happens on FB, and the parents are clueless. All in the name of privacy. My feeling is WHAT PRIVACY? </p>