I went back to school for a master’s a few years ago. I had to have a physical. In my case, it was beyond silly, but the school did have some intramural teams for grad students and had an “open gym” (which I never used.) There was a long list of physical activities and the physician had to check off those you could/could not participate in. I suspect that there have been instances of people going back to school in their 40s/50s, seeing the availability of a “free” gym facility as a perk, and dropping dead of a heart attack when they overdid it. While you could require a physical just to use the gym, I think it would be hard to keep track of who had had the necessary physical and who hadn’t. Everyone who had a student ID could use the gym and everyone with a student ID had had a physical.
It did make me update my tetanus shot–a good thing.
It’s heart-breaking…and the accused murderer sounds like he’s all kinds of creepy. What kind of 18-year-old young man has an “inappropriate relationship” with a 13-year-old girl?! He’s in college and she’s in middle school?
There seems to have been a lot of strangeness involved way before the murder occurred.
These two “hashed out every aspect” of their plot. Obviously they didn’t hash out all the social media trail aspects to this. It doesn’t seem it was really too hard for law enforcement to trace them and then be able to link them to the murder.
I’m sorry did I miss something? What do mental illness have to do with this case? I been following this case on the news I don’t remember them every saying either one had a mental illness.
When I read the account of Keeper’s bond hearing (the girl) and her interactions with the police, she sounded somewhat disconnected from reality to me (just speculation).
Also pure speculation, but I wonder if he is a psychopath flying under the radar. Maybe his alleged accomplice was “in love” with him and that’s what lead her to get caught up something so horrible (not justifying her alleged behavior though).
My heart does hurt for her parents, and of course the parents of the deceased.
How can you believe either of them didn’t have a mental illness?
They plotted elaborately – and incompetently, thank heavens – to kill a 13-year old girl with developmental delays and a history of awful illnesses. One of them seems either to have been having an affair with her or at least encouraging her to believe they were having an affair. The other helped.
I don’t know how you could convince me they weren’t mentally ill. I don’t believe there’s that much evil in the world.
The female accused was also cutting herself for years. In my world, self mutilation is definitely mental illness. The guy sounds like a predator who looked for weak females he could exploit. Yuck–scum!
@JHS there are plenty of people that commit murder that are not mental ill. There is that much evil in the world.
@Hlmom if the girl was in fact cutting herself then yes she may have some type of mental illness or depression going on. It’s still not an excuse for murder.
i’m just tired of mental illness being blamed every time a young white kid commits murder. Sometimes(really most times) they are just murderers.
@sensation723 Most of the time when people commit murder, we say it’s senseless, but it’s really anything but. There’s a clear reason: She said she would take all my money if I divorced her. She wouldn’t let me see my babies anymore. He could identify me to the police and put me in jail. He was disrespecting me; if I let that slide people would be challenging me all the time. I was shooting at the guy who was shooting at me, and hit someone else instead. He was trying to take my corner. I thought he was going for a gun. He bullied me once too often.
Nothing here makes that kind of sense.
I am not saying that this type of mental illness justifies murder, not at all.
. This is all too incomprehensible. Even though it is entirely too early to know what really happened,it’s our nature to try and explain the unthinkable.However, explaining something is not excusing something.
Were this 13 yr old girls parents aware of what she was up to? Did they know that she was having this relationship with an 18 yr old? Were they aware she was sneaking out of the home to meet him? Aren’t her parents not partially responsible for not being alert of her ec’s. Could this situation have been avoided? Maybe I’m missing something but I think this child was not properly supervised.
@empower I actually am a single parent of a daughter and I’m very protective of her. This young girl it seems was having this relationship for sometime. I would expect a parent to have more awareness of what their 13 year old is involved in vs what their college kid is doing. At that age I was very aware of where my dd was. She wasn’t allowed overnight stays and between school and sports she was with me. I had access to her facebook account and would know what she was posting. She knew what my rules were.
We don’t have control of everything but we as parents have the right to set rules for our kids especially when they are minors. We are responsible for them and any parent in this situation must think in their mind, “was there something I could have done to protect her.”
I’m actually very disturbed by what has happened and I hope those two students face the consequences of their actions. My own dd came very close to attending VT, college of engineering and would have been a sophomore there this year. We even discussed the possibility of transferring to VT junior year but my worry was always that if she ever needed me to come there it would have been a distance to travel and she wasn’t ready to go to school that distance from home. Between the massacre that happened at VT many years ago and the Hanna Graham case at UVA many parents were at the edge of their seats worried about the safety at college campuses.
Virginia tech is an amazing school and the kids that gain admission into their engineering school are academically very strong students. We know so many students that attend VT and they have nothing but good things to say about it.
Sadly this is not the first incident involving VT students. I feel for the students on campus who had to deal with some difficult events that have taken place. Also for the parents as there is nothing worse than losing a child especially in this scenario. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/va-tech-student-samanata-shrestha-murdered-fellow-student-report-article-1.1611420
Yes, cutting is NOT an excuse for murder, but was just saying that it IS evidence of some mental health issues, as mentally healthy people are NOT cutting themselves (or harming others). I have no idea what the evidence will show as to WHY they decided to plan and carry out the heinous murder of this young child. It SOUNDS like (from initial reports) that the male college student was afraid the girl would reveal his “involvement” and perhaps he figured murdering her would silence her–that IS definitely a motive.
