<p>Hi Guyz,
I am an international student and I have got I-20(acceptance) for Pre-Business with 10,000$ renewal scholarship from Arizona. This means i can pay in-State charge, surely a big remission for me. So if I am rejected from Texas A&M then Arizona will be my second choice.
But the thing is, i do not know this decision will be appropriate as I have also have got acceptence from SuNy Buffalo with 2500$ though the amount is not big. But that is not an important fact, I am cofused about how to compare these 2. Although Buffalo’s ranking is 120 and arizona is 98, Buffalo’s business school seemed to me better one.wall street has ranked it among the top 50 of the world though not this is not reliable.
One weak point of Arizona is in US News ranking there is no information about the rate of employment within six months,one years, two years of graduation whereas buffalo has 73% withiin one year. It also does not have information regarding “companies who frequently hire graduates”. as far as I know there are many good companies in tucson and phonix specially telecommunication companies.
Oh…another thing is that what is the highest tempareture in tucson? Currently in my city, Dhaka the tempareture is almost 37degree celcius </p>
<p>Guyz what do u think? Is there any one from U of Arizona,business school?</p>
<p>FFARHAM, I have a good site. its businessweek. they rank the undergrad business schools by specialty and overall Biz school ranking listing sub categories such as salaries, grade cards etc. really helpful for me. Here is the link. I tried looking for ur schools to give u average salaries, but didnt find either however I did a quick skim and i really didnt look good. Im sure ull find it there.
<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/07rankings/index.asp[/url]”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/07rankings/index.asp</a>
I can tell u that Arizona is way better. I dont like Arizona that much but not for academics but for location. Its a freakin desert! Im not much of a desert fan. But between SUNY and Arizona, do not think twice, go to Arizona. It has way better prestige and recognition nationally and especially internationally.
If u get into TAMU, then definately go there cuz its way better than both those schools and their biz school is better as well. either way, if u dont, Arizona is also a school with a lot more school spirit and traditional college experience. if u go to theu.com and type university arizona, u will find a video. I suggest u look at it</p>
<p>I am an international student and got admission from Master of Finance at UA, Could ACARTA07 or someone comment this program of UA? Give me some advice between this program and North Carolina State U- Master of Financial Mathematics? Which has greater reputation and could find an ideal job easier in the States?</p>
<p>Hey tristan
Between north carolina state and arizona, I guess Arizona is much more reputed university. Their usnews ranking is quite good. and also offers much aid. I have received 10,000 as undergrad for the first year. I did’nt even submit my SAT score. just gave my Bangladesh SSC and HSC transcripts
and also see this video. u will be able to see the eller school of management.
<a href=“http://www.theu.com/videos_view/university_of_arizona?v=v479e3[/url]”>http://www.theu.com/videos_view/university_of_arizona?v=v479e3</a>
Hope that works</p>
<p>Can you please comment on what you’d like to do with a business degree from U Arizona, Texas A&M, SUNY Binghampton or NC State? My impression is that those degrees don’t travel particularly well and unless you are planning to join a company in the local economies close to where the schools are located, then you may be making improper assumptions about how much a business degree from these will help you.</p>
<p>Hey hawkette
I want to get chance to work in investment banking industry or other celcebrated financial corporations,such as Morgan Stanley,Goldman Sachs or Citi banks etc on. These two degrees plus MS Finance at Illinois Institute of Technology all provide quantitative finance background to help students to achieve success in financial industry. I would like to start my career in investment firms or famed banking corp. I wonder which one of these three programs could help me more?
Thanks for ffarhan’s advice, it helped me more familliar with UA.</p>
<p>I must apologize for not having much knowledge of these schools and investment banking. I strongly recommend that you research the Career Placement of each school and get actual names of alumni that work for those firms you have targetted or the industry. Call them and get their advice on the usefulness of a degree from these institutions in getting into Wall Street. I am a big believer that, with the proper combination of willpower, intelligence and persistence, nearly anyone can get to the Street, but I suspect that coming from these schools would not put you in the most advantageous position. Of the ones mentioned, SUNY Binghampton, because of its proximity and likely most alumni on the Street, would be the best option, but I really don’t know the schools well enough to be sure in making those comments. Good luck with your search and someday maybe we’ll see you ringing the stock market bell. :)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you would have a very hard time getting a job with an elite investment firm from either of those schools. Those firms are much sought after by US college grads and they recruit from very top colleges. Even at Harvard you need to be near the top (or connected) to get an investment banking job. Arizona is not in that league.</p>
<p>Tristan, I’m curious and too lazy to look things up myself, but a MS in finance and a MS in financial mathematics aren’t the same thing as far as I know. Have you checked the different classes you would be taking at each school? Isn’t the MS in financial mathematics way more mathematics intensive?</p>
<p>I live within like 30 minutes of the UofA. About Arizona being a desert–yes, it is. And it’s hot here. May through August can be 100+. But the rest of the year is lovely, and I’d take a hot summer over a deathly winter. </p>
<p>As a rule for the UofA, you’ll do better having the degree around the Tucson area. I don’t know how well it really transfers to jobs in other parts of the countries. Then again, EVERYONE that lives in Tucson goes to the U of A. It’s a good school, but if I was an international student i’d want to go somewhere else.</p>
<p>suze, I agree with your comments. I just didn’t want to completely close the door on their dream. I am a big believer in the underappreciated strength of schools and students outside of the NE and the possibility of those from these areas finding their way to Wall Street. Stranger things have happened, but I concur that one faces long odds from those schools.</p>
<p>Tristan, Master of Financial mathematics, is that NC State’s way of saying Finance? if it is not, I wouldnt major in that. You should check the marketability of that major in the job market. Cause well its not the traditional business majors. Eitherway, if I where u Tristan, I would pick NC State. Both are good schools academically and frankly NC State is a more selective and competetive school hence u will be around a more academically talented student body. UA is quite easy to get into (with exeption to several programs). Also the location is better at NC state than in UA. NC State has a very nice campus and the landscape is totally different than the desert atmosphere of Arizona. NC State has more of a forest type feeling and a variety of warm and cold weather (mayby snow at certain times). </p>
<p>Forgot to mention: Career wise, according to Businessweek, Arizona has a better business school and starting salaries are higher by like a $7,000 difference. Either way, If u get good grades at NC State, then jobs shouldnt be a problem, like I said, both are good schools.</p>
<p>Even though Arizona is a desert, it certainly gets green around springtime. The trees are blooming around now. And you’re not even IN school during the summer’s hot months–and don’t forget about the summer monsoons. Personally, I love the rain. </p>
<p>If you do decide on the U of A, know: the campus is very nice and there’s an amazing hole-in-the-wall pizza place on 6th called Zachary’s. :)</p>
<p>My suggestion was to do the research, make the calls to the financial industry alumni (if there are any) and, with that information in hand, make a judgment on the possibility. For example, are you aware that presidential candidate John Edwards is a NC State grad? I didn’t until checking the NC State website. There are probably some good finance people as well-I just don’t know, but a little research on the part of the student could uncover this. I agree that the likelihood is low, but I don’t know enough about the connections that one could get from these schools to conclusively shut the door.</p>
<p>acarta07,actually Master of Financial Mathematics is not simplly finance. It is a quantitative finance program combining finance,computing, quantitative ,mathematical skills to analyze financial problems. This program is not traditionally business or finance program in NC state business college. It is offered by seven departments at NCSU including Agricultural and Resource Economics, Economics, Industrial Engineering, Mathematics, and Statistics, Business Management and Computer Science.
Do you know Financial Engineering? In fact this program is one of Financial Engineering. I agree with your comments between NC state and UA.</p>
<p>I’m not saying the degree may not be more valuable. But the stated objective was to work for a Morgan Stanley type firm. The point is it will be very difficult to get a job like that from either of those programs. Certainly possible but against all odds.</p>