Yeah. OPA dropped that out of nowhere.
It had a pseudo-impacted status (can’t accept all applicants into the major), it’s one of the fastest growing majors on campus, and currently the 8th largest major in L&S. It’s also THE alternate for IB majors, a growing option for Pre-Med track students, and a massive feeder into the Bay Area workforce. Is being ranked 9th in the nation not enough for the Regents? Another side effect is that the next nearest undergrad option (Social Welfare) does not come close to providing what the major offers since PH has such a specialized curriculum.
A possible CoC dissolution makes (more) financial sense as it’s the second smallest college (Haas is the smallest but they have $$$) and they have the resources to separate it between CoE and L&S akin to EECS vs. (L&S) CS.
@UFJbank wait, some people didn’t receive the offer to apply for the leadership award?! Does this mean something…?
I read somewhere that you need to have a 3.8 (correct me if I’m wrong) or above. It has something to do with the GPA.
I didn’t have a 3.8 and I received it. Now I feel stupid for not doing it. :((
I think it may have just been based on the boxes you checked in the “Scholarship” portion of the UC Application but I may be wrong. I do remember one listing Leadership.
Does anybody know if you’re able to declare a double major once you get to Cal without having completed the prerequisites yet as an incoming transfer student?
I’m an econ major and I’ve done all prereqs for that, but I want to also double major in Applied Math. I’m 2 classes off from completing their requirements, so would I just take my econ classes and those prereqs before trying to apply into the department, or do they not allow it. I heard it is a bit of a hassle for double major and transfer students because they want you out in two years.
@lostinthought6,
Do you have the applicable stats course (Stats 20/21/134) and intermediate econ course (100/101/A/B) completed?
If you don’t you actually are designated as pre-major rather than a major and won’t actually get in until you fulfill those two courses with the necessary GPA. Be aware that declaring econ is not guaranteed.
Please review this: https://www.econ.berkeley.edu/undergrad/prospective/transfer-students
As far as the second major, the process to add the second major has additional steps, and with Econ’s status as a capped major, it’s it’s recommended to NOT declare it until you are verified in the Econ major.
There are a bunch of double majors with both applied math and stats but the key is to get into Econ first as more than a third of all pre-majors don’t even get into the major despite being accepted to the school.
Edit: Didn’t see the second part of the question
The second major adds at least 32 units of requirements so it will be difficult for the admins to approve your double major without completion of the prerequisites. Consider finishing the prerequisites in Summer as part of the Transfer Edge program.
@SDGoldenBear
Sorry, you’re correct, if I were admitted for next fall it would be as a Pre-Econ major as I would still have to do the stats course and intermediate econ courses.
I wouldn’t be able to do all of the prerequisites in the summer, I could only do one because they require the previous class but it would help.
So after I’m let into the Econ major after finishing those classes with the met GPA and then finish the prerequisites for applied mathematics, I can go to the math department and apply to have it as my double major? I apologize for all of the questions.
@lostinthought6
You have five semesters to complete a double major after transfer. Some majors require that prerequisites be complete by the end of the first semester after transfer. If you will be able to finish the prereqs for both and submit the application after the first semester, then you have nothing to worry about. If you will still have prereqs to finish in the spring, then it will be entirely up to their discretion.
Economics majors could always benefit for more math so you wouldn’t lose anything by trying, but if you have too many combined prereqs to be finish after the first semester, then I would pick out a backup minor in case the application is rejected.
@lostinthought6 You could, but you’ll run into some issues:
L&S has unit cap of 136 units / 5 semesters for double majors and the admins will be be unlikely to approve a second major if you are in danger of going over the limit to meet the requirements.
Additionally they will rarely approve a second major if you are transferring closer to the maximum 70 units and still have missing prerequisites or have not fully completed your IGETC.
See: http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/registration/unitceiling.html
Assuming you are transferring with the minimum 60 transferable units (and have your IGETC completed)…planning for the double major only leaves you with 76 units before reaching the cap. Considering you will need 36 units to meet the Econ requirements and another 4 units to meet your L&S American Cultures requirement that only leaves you 36 units left to allocate.
Like previously mentioned, a double major in applied math has 32 units of upper division requirements without accounting for missing prerequisites (or double counted units) leaving a leeway of only 4 “free” units or 1 course before you are at risk of hitting the unit ceiling.
Since you will be missing prerequisites, I recommended initially planning for an applied math minor instead. It’s significantly more feasible and you could upgrade to a second major at a later time and take the difference in requirements during your second or third summer.
Econ majors have better success with the administration when declaring a minor and then upgrading compared to declaring a second major outright anyway.
Is there a minor for Applied Math? That could be an option worth examining.
@SDGoldenBear beat me to it.
I pledge to abstain from masturbation or sexy time until I get accepted. Let the countdown begin.
@TransferGirl2016 I didn’t do it either. I’m honestly so swamped with work/school that I completely forgot about the scholarship emails I got. It kind of pisses me off that they’re having people apply for scholarships without knowing if theyre going to get in or not
@lostinthought6
Though I would recommend considering other minors if you do go that route. Economics degree holders are expected to have backgrounds in general mathematics. A mathematics minor would not elevate an Economics degree. UCB has plenty of diverse minors so I would pick something that will add something to your degree and could potentially set you apart from peers.
@themightybicycle @paninichan @TransferGirl2016 I got the leadership application and my self-calculated UC GPA is a 3.3. It could have something to do with extra curriculars. Was everyone who got one involved in a leadership position somewhere–student government, campus club, etc?
@aepaige I don’t think so. My husband got the offer to apply and he has no leadership positions. Nor did he mark anything indicating so on his application.
(FWIW)
ECs: Math tutor, part/full time work, volunteer at elementary school.
UC GPA: 3.93
Major GPA: 4.0
@sugarbabies3 Maybe when they kicked a couple of bad grades from 8 years ago off my transcript, my GPA was recalculated as a 3.8 and therefore I qualified? I have no idea.
@aepaige Lol I’m not sure. I didn’t know there was a minimum GPA for it. I know my husband did submit the scholarship applications for the minority alumni ones.
@bolognese I didn’t think it was so special because when it came out everyone on here said they got it and that it was to everyone who applied. Then I find out yesterday that it’s based off gpa X_X I also thought why would they do this before decisions… Maybe it means something haha we all have a chance lol
In similar news to PH and CoC:
If you planning on attempting to be a double bear…Cal is continuing to elevate the tuition for even more masters programs to professional degrees. Word out of OPA is that another 6 programs are next in line.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/UC-reclassifies-master-s-degrees-charges-6869454.php?t=961390927b