I shared my recent experience with UCI hires and the CS employment data I have been tracking for years. It is constructive for @Asfd1 to make the right decision! I DO think the quality of education and great potentials at CMU would pay off the extra $200K. My niece was able to get internship at MSFT during her first year (MS) at CMU.
The truth is that CS is oversaturated, people thought CS graduates have high earning potential, it is true. When too many CS graduates on the job market, the graduates from top CS schools or the âbig fishesâ from random schools have more chance to find decent jobs. If you search at Linkedin, you will get rough idea what kind of jobs the CS graduates are doing and how long it took for CS graduates to get a related job.
Some people ignores the truth, but they will face it sooner or later.
Itâs a very unfortunate experience, for both the UCI CS graduates and the company. However, sample of 2 is not statistically significant to conclude anything - good or bad UCI CS program/ individual graduates, good or bad company environment/ leadership. The only thing this might provide is the interview deficiency where it failed to find the right candidate for the positions. In such cases, the company should have capabilities to manage such situations in a constructive way.
We have the UCSD graduate, heâs hired 8 months after those two UCI graduates, but heâs already the lead developer, will be promoted as Senior SE in July. The two UCI graduated are on 3-month performane improvement period, if they fail to improve their performace, will be kicked out. Itâs also good for them, they will find the enviroment they fit in.
In my previous post, I referred to UCI CS grads only. To bring this back to the topic of this thread, I wanted to point out that I left off the current 17 and 18 year olds (and their parents) who have already SIRâd to UCI, but are on this thread because they are waitlisted at UCB.
To those students, please do not take some of these comments about UCI the wrong way. You have SIRâd to a great school and will do well. If you get off the UCB waitlist, you will have another great option.
Sometimes people forget that they donât need to denigrate other studentsâ choices in order to share advice. These forums should be uplifting to all students and all colleges.
The major should always have higher priority than the school. Following your interest (you would be excited when you review the courses available for your major) and make sure itâs employable major.
Some majors are not employable, employers donât care if you graduate from Berkeley or Harvard, you have no value. I checked through Berkeley Regents Scholars at Linkedin, many scholars didnât find job yet.
Its a better sample to form conclusions on the effectiveness of that companyâs hiring and talent development process rather than form conclusions about UCI CS.
For you, and maybe for your family, but not for everyone.
Many students do not know what they want to study. Many change majors or career aspirations after they are exposed to new areas of study in college. Many students select a college based on location, size, demographics, cost, or a variety of factors other than major.
For fresh graduates, I tend to explore their potentials and possibilities than jumping into conclusions too quickly. They are still very young. Some companies have development programs to let the fresh graduates rotate at different jobs to help them explore further before settling into the hired role. Companies should have responsibilities to further develop the talents, for their own benefits, and for greater good.
For those two UCI CS graduates, it must be hard but it might not be totally a bad thing to go through such hardships that sometimes are necessary to their ultimate success.
âCompanies should have responsibilities to further develop the talentsâ? Totally Wrong. Most of companies donât have the patience and budget to train new hires for loner than 6 months. If you made the mistake, you should cut loss ASAP, better no wishful thinkingâŚ
I did think hard about UCD. It is the comparison that kills me. So in isolation it is a great school and if I did not have CMU CS (or Columbia where I was also accepted) I would have gone to UCD in a heartbeat.
If you already declined all other schools, only SIRâed CMU, then people doesnât need to provide more advices. I know youâre waitlisted at UCLA/UCB, UCLA had two waves for CS two weeks ago, pretty much done, and even less chance here.
You can get more accurate & targeted anawers from the paid services. You donât have to listen to the noise of social media.
At this point it really does seem like the only ones who might get in will be through melt (SIRâed students who ultimately choose another school over the summer).
How does that work? I assumed that schools planned for that and slightly over-enrolled to compensateâsimilar to airlines overbooking in anticipation of missed connections and passengers sleeping in. But I guess there isnât really a later flight option for dorm space.
So it seems like melt would be identified after the list is closed and closer to when classes start.
Does anyone have experience with that?
We spent two days at UCLA last week. For those in CS, may not be good news.
CS students are having difficult time to find internships this summer⌠We´re thinking of switching out of CS major. I believe AI can replace lots of entry level jobs, chatgpt is able to write bug free code. We´re entering AI era, the impact will be significant on society within 5 years. Your major absolutely weights more than the school you´re in.
Totally Wrong. Most of companies donât have the patience and budget to train new hires for loner than 6 months. If you made the mistake, you should cut loss ASAP, better no wishful thinkingâŚ