UC Riverside Transfer Fall 2016

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@uchopeful414 I had to manually input a course I took at UCB, and obviously that’s transferable. The application (or TAP, for that matter) not recognizing a course does not mean that it is non-transferable.

“they will not take junior level courses from CSU”
Do you have a source? I haven’t read or heard anything about UC’s refusing to take upper-division units from non-UC’s. What if a CSU upper-division class is similar to an upper-division class at the UC (and the applicant is under the unit cap)? Personally, it seems unlikely to me that they would refuse to take upper-division units solely because they are upper-division. Maybe I misread what you were saying.

“they won’t pay attention to courses listed as ONLY CSU transferable.”
This is correct - but also obvious, and this is straying away from the point.

“There are specifications at schools when you get into upper division that UC will not notice.” - correct, but:
That’s why you can only transfer as a junior." - incorrect. It makes sense that UC’s generally will not take senior transfers. Some UC’s do, in fact, offer admission to sophomore transfers, however. I can provide a source or two, if you’d like.

“Would be pointless for them to look at grades and accept or deny on grades that don’t even transfer over. Yes they see them but their decisions for Gpa purposes will only be on UC transferable ones”
You’re right. Only UC-transferable grades transfer to the UC’s. As I have mentioned, however, the assist-certified GPA only considers CC units - it does not take into account 4-year units, even if those units are from other UC’s. Naturally, UC units transfer over to other UC’s. So, the assist-certified GPA is not necessarily one’s UC-transferable GPA.

At non-UC universities (i.e. CSU’s, CA private universities, and OOS universities), there is no direct articulation, because the UC’s (for obvious reasons) won’t waste resources developing a database that shows whether or not any course taken anywhere is UC-transferable This does not mean, however, that most courses are not UC-transferable - this merely means that they must be evaluated by AdComs.

Harvard units will not be considered in the Assist-Certified GPA on the TAP. This does not mean that those Harvard units are not transferable.

All units from CA CC’s are clearly either UC-transferable or not. For non-CC units, AdComs have to evaluate. This shouldn’t be surprising, as plenty of other top institutions evaluate coursework at least somewhat similarly for transfer applicants.

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http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/transfer/advising/transferring-credits/
Says only lower division transfers are allowed. And as we all know, only 70 LOWER division units will be accepted.
Because as I’ve said, they need to be able to articulate into their coursework. Upper division courses vary in all campuses. So they can’t articulate something that doesn’t exist at the school.

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@goldencub Do you have any of that popcorn left over from earlier?

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I mean I guess what it all boils down to is articulation and agreements within the CA higher education system. As well as out of state. Junior transfers are easiest because general Ed is easy to articulate anywhere in the US

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@uchopeful414 Is that so?

http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/files/uc-transfer-maximum-limitation-policy-chart.pdf (p. 2)

It seems I was sort of incorrect here, too. Plenty of UC’s accept senior-standing applicants (but it’s generally not done). This should tell you something:

  1. All lower-division units are capped at 70. As you know.
  2. There are students admitted as senior-standing at numerous UC’s. This is undeniable, as the source given from the University of California proves.
    a: It is important to note - it is either the case that these senior-standing admits either have upper-division units or UC units (or both) - either of these cases (or both) will put an applicant over the unit max. So, you could argue that the high-unit admits are likely all coming from the UC’s. This is unlikely, however, because if all high-unit admits came solely from the UC’s, then they would not offer this disjunction (mentioned earlier - 2a). That is, they would say explicitly that upper-division units are not accepted from any institution - but the fact that they say that either upper-div units or UC units can put one over the unit cap, making them a high-unit transfer, nullifies this possibility. They wouldn’t even mention upper-div units if they weren’t transferable, or made a student ineligible to transfer - they would say that upper-division units are not accepted explicitly. So, that possibility is highly improbable.
  3. Because of 1, it is not possible for lower-division students to be admitted with senior-standing.

Therefore, (by 1 and 3) it is either the case that high-unit admits (2) have upper-div units, placing them over the unit cap, or they have UC units that place them over the cap. Because of 2a, it is highly probable that there is a mix of both.

Also -

From the link you just provided:

“. . . general units or credits from a regionally accredited college or university are transferable if a course is comparable to one offered at a UC campus. If a course in not equivalent to a particular UC course, it must be appropriate for a UC degree in terms of its purpose, scope and depth.”

Note the last sentence.

“However, some courses are not transferable to UC. The following types of courses, for example, will not garner UC transfer credit:
. . .”

Note that “upper-division units” are not listed as non-transferable courses here. This should tell you that upper-division units can be transferable to the UC’s, if they are comparably “appropriate for a UC degree in terms of [their] purpose, scope, and depth.”

TLDR; here, you are incorrect.

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@uchopeful414
I think you’re misunderstanding that. I’m coming from a CSU and I’m having to take a few courses that are considered upper division at SDSU but not at the UC’S. So upper division courses (Junior level courses) do transfer. As long as they’re considered lower division to the school you’re applying to its all good. It wouldn’t make sense otherwise

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Can’t y’all just chill for a bit? Either they transfer over or they don’t and the best way to find out is contacting someone at the school and finding out. No need to yell at each other over the internet.

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As someone who isn’t involved in the debate, I find that it is an important conversation so long as it remains civil. It seems to meet the criteria as of now (perhaps it crossed some lines previously).

It is important that ideas be challenged and notions verified. It would be a shame if someone saw this thread and was influenced by incorrect information.

However, in every individual case it would indeed be imperative to consult admissions at a school you’re interested in.

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another instance of @uchopeful414 posting incorrect information. let this be a lesson to all on these forums, please contact your transfer centers or uc admissions for facts.

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even if we all see information that is released by the UC’s, it can be interpreted differently.

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argue in a private chat please.

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And I think the whole point was whether or not they look at CSU grades. My point was if he’s in community college, and he takes course that are exclusively CSU transferable it won’t factor in. thats all I was trying to say. I wasn’t talking about CSU to UC transfers and all that. I don’t understand how it ended up being something totally different .-.

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Well, that was fun.

Anyway, as a poll, who in this forum has not heard anything from UCR aside from me? What are your stats if you haven’t? I feel like this radio silence is trying to send me the message of rejection.

Major: Japanese Language & Literature
UC Transferable GPA: 2.5
Prerequisites: There aren’t any articulated courses.
Extra Curriculars: None
Personal Statement: 8/10 (Not that the read it)
Applied: UCR, UCSD, UCD, UCLA, SJSU, CSULB, CSULA, Fresno State.
Admitted: CSULA, CSULB, Fresno State, and SJSU.
Denied: None

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@Cheolf

“It would be a shame if someone saw this thread and was influenced by incorrect information.”

A smart student will not depend on a public forum for an answer, period. The best bet is to ignore half the BS that is posted on here, whether it be good or bad information, and speak to someone with the highest authority one can get in contact with–THAT is how business is taken care of! Any admissions officer, counselor or clerk will consider it to be the students wrong-doing for using a public forum as a resource. So, in theory, although the posts in these threads contribute to the discussion, they are never considered credible by outside resources such as the counselor, etc.

On a side note, half the arguments that go on around here are merely confidence boosters and are not genuinely started for the sake of straightening out incorrect information.

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@UCLAFFF Yes, I agree. One should never depend on an unofficial source. Also, for anyone reading this, I would advise you always email the school you have an admissions question for. “Paper” trails can be a very valuable thing (humans are prone to error, after all).

I concede to you on the arguments notion. Sometimes being an optimist can cloud my view of reality.

Thanks for your input!

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is anyone still pending?

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It’s for the schools that do read it. Like Irvine, Berkeley, Merced, LA and San Diego. So as you can see, the majority of the UCs do read it. There are countless people who get emails from the schools not mentioned asking them questions they already answered in their personal statements, me personally having to do t myself with UCSB. A personal statement really is just one component of the review. In some schools that do use them, it can be a huge asset. But obviously, the other schools dont see it that way. If they want to know anything further, they’ll just email you and ask you about it it seems

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@DannyOcean I am!
Biochem major
All pre-reqs done.
3.02 GPA

I would hope they read the personal statement! I’m a single mother & that has had a huge impact on my GPA.

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Btw my friend, biology major, just got her acceptance today.

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@josolo yes, being a single mother will definitely impact your GPA. I have also been affected by specific circumstances, i will not share. Was your personal statement well written?