When they say wholistic they mean they consider other things as well. But the basket would be still tilted heavily. Unless you have compensated heavily with other things like you are gifted in sports or some thing special they care about. I guess is the rest of 3% could be due to socioeconomic reason (which makes more sense to me)
Mind you UVA is also 90% they are categorize RANK, RIGOR AND GPA under “Very important”. so the data is accurate. even the my sons highschool informed kids during senior year that they need to have 4 (unweighted) or 4.5 weighter to have any chance at UNC. But it was too little too late. Worst part is a kid get couple of bad grades (Just Bs) simply because teacher left the school, the child struggled with health or the particular subject is not of their interest. this all they need to be left behind. Hope parents now more prepared for this going forward.
It is virtually statistically impossible that their unweighted GPA average is 4.0 on a 4.0 scale - that would require everyone to be basically a perfect 4.0 including athletes and students taken as part of their holistic approach.
Our Wake County Magnet school sends 50+ kids to Chapel Hill each year - and 100/100 do not have perfect grades. They are generally high 3.8-4.0 and WGPA of 4.4-4.7+, put it’s not 100% as perfect A students. We have family friends who have kids with 3.8 and under who’ve been accepted in the same HS class as our kids who have been wait listed in applications.
I take few things at face value anymore. If we look at their class rank break down - it says 77% come from the top 10% of their class, and 97% come from teh top 25% of their class.
In order to have 97% have a GPA average of 4.0 - then it would equate to basically the all students taken in the top 25% of their class (97% of their total enrolled UNC class) had a perfect 4.0 even when they were only Top 25% of their High School class and yet they were perfect unweighted GPAs?
Are you saying that they can not stich together a document they are required to make publically available? 3% out of 8500 (255 or something) could be below 4. Difficult to believe. what choice do I have.
What I am saying is that we know several students within the last 4 years of admissions who were accepted who were not 4.0 students nor athletes. I find it difficult to believe that we happen to know the 1 or 2 kids out of the entire enrolled freshman class who did not have a perfect 4.0. Statistically it’s pretty unlikely that we know the only 3.75-3.80 kids to be admitted. My kids (D22, S24, D26 ) have friends cohorts who generally apply to UNC, they also have friends who are admitted with less than 4.0 UWGPA).
Additionally My son received a sophomore guaranteed admission to start off the wait list - and he was not a perfect 4.0 or an athlete. They would have had to jump a ton pf 3.95s, 3.90s, 3.85s etc to make him the offer off the wait list to do that. Granted he would not have been counted as a freshman entry for those numbers but conceptually hard to imagine that if GPA of 4.0 were the required cut, and they would have a ton of wait list kids who have that or very close, that they would jump down multiple rounding points and lots of wait listed kids (by GPA) to reach my own son to offer him a coveted slot the following year.
UVA stats look more accurate though.
what was his rank?
All three of my kids have been wait listed at Carolina.
They have all had Class Rank between 10+ & 25%.
Again, they have cohort friends who are in alignment with them test score wise, rigor wise, GPA wise and Rank wise - some are admitted, some are declined and some are wait listed. I would agree that a 4.0 and top3% rank would be more helpful, but it’s not a ‘requirement’ for instate acceptance. OOS is a tighter band because UNC only takes about 18-20% of its total from outside of the state. So comparatively the absolute number is about like University of Texas Austin, as they are twice the size(+) but only take 10% as OOS/International.
When the UNC EA and RD decisions come out, look at the stats the kids report here etc- you will see some level of grade variance (unweighted/weighted). Doubt you will see kids report 3.6 or below, but there will be less than perfect 4.0s reported.
Though the common data set says 97% had 4.0 on a 4.0 scale, I just read online that is actually weighted.
That makes a lot more sense.
It is standard document across the country. How can that be that inaccurate.
it would be explained by the fact that they reported weighted and not unweighted.
No chance 97% of admits have a 4.0 unweighted GPA.
It is hard for me to believe it as well. But going back to 2 to 3 years they are reporting it the same way. Why would it change now. Also right below that information they provide weighted gpa which say 4.49 gpa. Also the data is based 93% gpa reported data. You may have missed this.
When the CDS came out, I made this comment. I think there are many inaccuracies in it
Going by what you said, my child shoul have gotten it. I knew people who have 4 unweighted and still be above 10% got in. also .1+ gpa is enough for my child to be within 15% rank.
The common data set says 4.49 is the average GPA (it doesn’t specify it is weighted, though it clearly is), which supports that the 97% 4.0 is also weighted.
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UNC common data set reports weighted gpa, not unweighted. 97% of kids do not have a 4.0 unweighted. Of the 35 kids admitted from my kid’s class, we know at least half of them had 1-3 Bs while in high school.
it says using 4.0 scale. what does that mean. Why would it says gpa of 4. and goes on to give ranges below. also at the bottom they also mention weighted gpa explicitly (4.49). My childs school listed out gpa required for admission into all colleges in NC. it is 4.0 unweighted for UNC. It makes sense when you consider that they are presenting data of 93% applicants who reported their gpa. Like I said before it is hard for me to believe. But this is what they have reported.
Anyone else get an email to view their financial aid letter but can’t seem to find it? I created an Onyen and logged into CarolinaConnect, but don’t see a Student Life tile or View Aid Offer.
I believe a 4.0 scale in this case means a 4.0 for an A in a regular class, and a 5.0 weighted, whereas some districts might give a 6.0 or a 94 for an A in a regular class. School systems around the country and world use all different methods for grading, UNC is just clarifying which system they are using. My D26’s district says they use a 4.0 scale, but only publish the weighted average on the transcript. And where it says the average high school GPA of 4.49, the wording is the same as on the top. But I did watch a TikTok video of someone who analyzed her application scores from UNC. One of the categories is grades and she thought the only way to get all the points for that is to have all As. I think rigor is a different category. So if your child had a B or two, it’s possible they missed a point or 2 on grades and that’s what kept them from getting accepted. I really wish kids didn’t have to start planning their futures when they’re 14 year old high school freshman. They should be able to make mistakes and grow from them. And have more fun!! Both my kids worked too hard in high school and still had the uncertainty of where they would be accepted to college.
well said. I agree that they should be allowed to make mistakes and over come them. 14 year is too young to take life too serious.