My guess is end of the day on the 19th.
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Hi Yall, I applied Ea for UNC In-state.
Here are stats (fyi they are lower than most due to me and my county being impoverished)
First Gen
Low Income
UW GPA: 3.9
W: 4.4
Rank: 2/159
I will have Associate in Science Business Management Cert. by 12/22
Bus Supervision Man, Cert. By spring 2023
1 completed Ap (Lang 3)
taking ap lit rn
test optional
I am president of schools beta club
manager/choreo of beta club show choir comp team (placed in top 5 at state past 2 years)
in SGA
worked part-time and full-time job while in school
has over 250 volunteer hours in last year
Any other questions please ask, I left a lot out
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Impoverished county with that rank and gpa added to first generation is a recipe for acceptance if you can show through coursework( DE) that you can handle UNCâs rigor- usually 6 APs or equivalent with good grades.
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I would guess a shoe in for acceptance and $$$. Post back when you find out next week!
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Hi, If anyone could chance me that would be helpful. I applied to EA out of state with legacy
UW: 3.8 but 3.9 after freshman year
Weighted: 4.1 but 4.3 after freshman year
Top 10 percent weighted at a top 3 high school in Minnesota
Alumnus of the prestigious NSLI-Y State Department study abroad program
34 ACT
2 years of managing for girlsâ basketball team and interning for the athletic director at my high school - Plan on majoring in sports management so it ties in there
11 APs - 4 Junior year with 1 A- both semesters
PSEO, meaning I took classes at the University of Minnesota - All Aâs in those classes
Proficient in French and Russian
Currently taking 3 APs
Your rigor and test scores are good, but your GPA is below anyone admitted (even in state), unless you have a weird weighted system. Is it 5 for AP and 4.5 for honors?
OOS even if perfect is a crapshoot, with about 8% max being admitted.
I donât believe my GPA is under the average for admitted in-state students. There is no waiting for honors classes.
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Especially because that would mean even for in-state you have to be almost perfect, and there in state acceptance rate is not low.
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My school does not weigh on either a 5 or 4.5. They do not weigh honors classes and AP classes are considered 1.2 times which is about a 4.8, additionally none of my PSEO classes have been weighted.
If you look at the common data set, you will be able to see the (W)GPA average is 4.49. In the largest state school district in the state, AP are 5.0 and Honors are 4.5.
And yes, the bulk of the students who are admitted have perfect or near perfect course "A"s with few "B"s, especially Bs in standard level courses (non-honors or non-AP/IB).
I will posit the "In Stateâ acceptance rate is not LOW(er) than it might otherwise be because, frankly, students who arenât in the 4.2+ WGPA, 3.9 UWGPA, or top 10% of their class often donât bother to apply to Carolina or have been âsoftâ guided away by GCs from applying to UNC-CH otherwise, the application numbers would me much higher, the admitted students stats would be roughly the same, and the selectivity would be much lower.
Although being âperfectâ isnât a guarantee of admissions at Carolina either - Carolina routinely turns down perfect test scores or high(est) GPA applicants as well. Both in and out of state.
My opinion is that once your (w)GPA and Rigor of coursework hits some threshold, and if you also submit -high- test scores - then you are in the competitive pool of applicants and then it just becomes a veritable coin toss or âcrapshootâ.
Out of State admissions is a much tougher pull.
I would hope that they would re-configure your GPA based on course rigor and grades to be comparable to a systematical comparable number. If so, then I suspect your (W)GPA would be higher - but probably would maybe make you lower 50% of OOS applicants, your AP rigor (11 total for all 4 years) is on par with competitive applicants (who have ample access to AP courses), and your ACT Score probably helps some to offset that (but not completely), Carolina lists class rank as Important, so being in the top 10% class rank(?) wonât hurt you but it doesnât give you a big bump either - again they turn down Vals and Sals out of state all the time. Iâm unsure about your ECs, you list a few which seem pretty good, but most of the successful candidates will have that plus more. Legacy is (only) considered, so maybe a little nudge there. Given all that, as OOS admissions is around 8% - I think you could say UNC-CH probably a high reach.
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I am sure UNC would recalculated and based on that gpa system my gpa is about a 4.3 and a 4.5 if you donât include my freshman year. Since freshman year I have been pretty much perfect with only a couple of A-s here and there. Additionally, one of my extra curricular NSLI-Y is a very selective state department scholarship program that I know colleges factor in pretty heavily. Also my school does not have any honor classes, only AP.
I also know from my experience and research as well that the students that have been admitted to UNC from my school district have very similar GPAâs to mine, especially if you do not factor in my freshman year, and even though my freshman year was not great I believe colleges will really like my upward trajectory. My school is also known for being very competitive and not inflating grades.
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In NC, regular classes are weighted (not wait at a 4.0, honors 4.5, and AP 5.0. The average weighted gpa is a 4.5 for those admitted to UNC. In state it may be a bit lower, but we know kids in the 4.4-4.5 range who didnât get in (in state). Students from smaller towns with fewer AP courses may be closer to a 4.3. Lots of 4.0/4.6, 10+ AP, high test score kids in state. OOS there are even more of them. But if your school weights differently, that is a different story, though OOS, itâs a complete lottery even when your grades and test scores are high.
In state at UNC is around 37-40% each year, which isnât high. Also, from my experience, there arenât a ton of kids who arenât qualified applying, so the application rate in state is lower than youâd think, making the 37-40% more competitive. Students know if they have a chance at UNC, and save their application money if theyâre not close to top 10% with tons of APs. For example, my child goes to a large, competitive high school. In her class, 37 kids got in and about 80 applied. That was about the top 15% of her class.
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And every OOS student will be just like you, so youâve got about a 7-8% chance. UNC will count your freshman year. Upward trajectory may or may not matter. Good luck!
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The truth is UNC is a reach for everyone, regardless of stats.
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Absolutely! My D26 has great stats, close to Ivy League stats, and she 100% considers UNC OOS reach.
Yes, I know. UNC is 100 percent a reach for me. I just donât think itâs impossible, but my chances are not high.
I only consider it a not super high reach as Iâve heard legacy helps!
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Yes, itâs not impossible.
And NSLI is an amazing achievement. Definitely a valuable EC to share.
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Anecdotally, my sibling(went to UNC) has an alum friend whose family donated quite a bit of money, hosted a fundraiser at their home oos that brought in big bucks and their child did not get in - he had stats/ecâs within range. It doesnât hold as much weight as it used to but regardless, every kid that applies has a shot. Thereâs only so many spots. Wishing luck to everyone!!