<p>You’re not taking into account omitted variable bias. Namely, the LSAT.</p>
<p>It’s likely that the UCLA and Berkeley grads who get into t14s have similar LSATs to those at other higher ranked undergrads. The top students at UCLA and Berkeley are very similar in quality to those at other higher ranked undergrads, and likely are the ones getting into t14s.</p>
<p>True, UCLAri, if I was coming from Nebraska state (exist??) I’d want to be a little more towards the middle, but the “average” score of many schools in 3.7 + 170. I wouldn’t wanna be 3.5 + 168, but if you have a 3.6 and a 170 you should get into a T14, not hysccnb but have a shot at all others.</p>
<p>Actually they do. When I was interested in law school when I first entered Undergrad, I found a website, for a top-14 law school (I don’t remember which), that listed weights that the law schools placed on the grades for applicants for each school. Like, a 4.0 from Berkeley and a 4.0 from UCI had different weights, thus they would use that in helping them admit students (I don’t think it was solely based on this though).</p>
<p>According to LAX law schools do not rank undgergrads and the only reason Harvard took 40+ from berk and 30+ from UCLA was the # of students. PS UCI had 2. </p>
<p>It was my understanding that law schools rank your undergrad school / true or no?</p>
<p>Just read your post. Understood thanks for weighing in.</p>
<p>This site has really helped me see where I need to be for any law school…you put in your GPA and LSAT score and it tells you all the schools you have the possibility of being excepted.</p>
People on these boards are obsessed with rankings. Many people from my high school chose UCLA over Berkeley. I know a few people who chose UCLA over a few Ivy League colleges (Columbia, Cornell, Brown) because they wanted that “real” college experience. There’s more to college than just studying.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t doubt that undergrads are weighted to an extent, but I doubt that it’s much more than a marginal factor in admission. If you score well on the LSAT (168+), you’ll be competitive for plenty of top law schools.</p>
<p>Besides, it’s a bit of a misnomer that you need a t14 to get a decent job. I have a buddy at UCLA who’s probably off to a Vault top firm.</p>
<p>Yes, the LSAC computes your GPA, but I doubt that an applicant from a Cal State is looked at in the same light as one from Harvard.</p>
<p>Now, is one from UCLA at a severe disadvantage from Harvard? Doubtful. It’s just that the odds are that if you’re at Harvard, you’re probably just that little bit more competitive than the average Bruin.</p>
<p>Agree, Ari…The main advantage to the T14 is that they did deeper into a schools class. Plus the degree carries nationally. A biglaw firm will go into the top 75% of an NYU law class, while it will only dip into the top 5% at a school like hofstra. UCLA is 15, so you’re going to have to do better than top 75%, most agree it’s top 15% for a NYC biglaw job, but since it’s in LA it carries very good weight and it’s agreed upon that top 1/3 will get you a V100 LA gig.</p>
<p>True, If it comes down to a minute point (say .01 gpa) I’d take the harvard guy over the cal state person, however with PS/Recs it barely ever comes down to that. But like you said, you dont need to go to T14 to get a vault 100 job…if you want vault 10 that’s a diff story, but vault 100 pays the same as vault 2 :)</p>
<p>I think that has part to due with location SB…kids from princeton/harvard/cornell wont want to go all the way out west, plus they tend to be “smarter”. </p>
<p>Many people also pick a school based on other factors, such as community, sports, city w/e</p>
<p>It’s not top 10. But you know what? I’ll be damned if I can tell the differences in the salaries (and hours.) I personally don’t see the pull of the V10 (or even 100). I’d rather work 50 hours a week and earn $80K a year than work 80 hours a week and earn $150K.</p>