But will those kids with 1500+ get denied from their desired major while out of state kids with lower scores get in?
BINGO! You win the prize!
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It gets worse when the school decided this year to completely hose prep school kids. I guess the assumption is they can afford to pay for private colleges and room was made for OOS kids at their expense.
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You see a little bit of everything happen.
UF and UT Austin share a common problem. They are the flagship institutions of massive states and, unlike California, there arenāt multiple top 50 options for public universities. UF and UT Austin are it.
In the thread for Texas A&M, someone was saying the state of Texas should shift to 100% holistic admissions like UF and get away from an auto-admit structure (it is top 10% for A&M). The truth is, Texas & Florida have so many students that, no matter what you do, some really bright kids are going to get left out.
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Not sure if weāre posting results here but my OOS son with a UF 4.1 wGPA, 35 ACT (one try), NM Commended, 150 volunteer hours, 4yr varsity sport, AP Scholar w Distinction, Calc AB Jr Year was denied. Not even deferred. From what I understand, 70+ kids from his large public high school applied so I guess within that setting, he was less competitive? We expected he would be deferred/denied where he was applying directly for Engineering, but this one stung.
But your are forgetting a VERY important detailā¦college is a BIG business! These universities need a percentage of OOS kids to foot the bill! The schools you are talking about have a very high in-state enrollment and extremely small out of state enrollment. We are from NJ and my daughter had no desire to apply to our in state Rutgers due to the city atmosphere. So, it is an uphill battle for her to compete for OOS public universities. She has amazing stats and was deferred from UGA and UF. Were we surprised, no? Because OOS admit rates are about 20% for both. Your in-state admit is still as high as it always has been. It is just there are many more in state apps as well these daysā¦look at their stats posted when all decisions are released . The common app makes it too easy to allow kids to apply to so many colleges when many have no intent to go to them, but it affects the whole population. It is a broken system and it is unfair on many levels but it is frustrating to read on these boards the bashing of admissions accepting OOS students because the reality isā¦ the percentage of admit/enroll has not increased for us. It is the same as it always has beenā¦the in-state apps are increasing making the competition harder for in-staters and unfortunately lowers the enrollment rates for those students.
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FWIW, I have followed Board of Trustees meetings pretty closely for the past few years (bc I have a kid at the school). While they have increased the target for OOS students (last year it went from 21 to 25%), it has seemed to follow trends as much as lead them (like they raised the target to 25% for this entering class but the percentage of the current first-year class from OOS ā at least in early summer ā was something like 24%). The percentage of OOS applicants has increased much faster than in-state applicants. I think I posted the chart from the BOT meeting in December of in-state vs OOS applicant trend lines for the past 4 years up this chain somewhere. In-state has been pretty flat in that period; OOS has increased by over a third. And lastly, I know how competitive UF is for in-state students (I have a lot of family there, and I grew up there); but the little data that has been put out suggests that standards are not lower for OOS students ā last year at a BOT meeting Sasse spoke of OOS admitted students having a slightly higher average SAT score than in-state acceptances (though both were in the 1400s, and close). When UF first published the 2023-24 CDS it included what looked like bad data about in-state vs OOS, which made it look like OOS was MUCH more competitive (they had too many students listed as OOS based on what had been reported at BOT meetings); they must have seen the prob bc the in-state/OOS breakdown has all been deleted now. Perhaps when they publish the 2024-25 CDS, we will be able to see the in-state v OOS acceptance rate. But everything I have seen has indicated that OOS acceptance rate is slightly lower and standards are effectively the same. Maybe this year is different, and maybe the state should weight the scales in favor of in-state (though I think of that more as a question of the stateās duty to its residents; the tax argument in Florida is different bc no income tax, and a large portion of sale tax revenue ā which is the overwhelming majority of the stateās revenue ā comes from tourism, and that doesnāt even include the snowbird revenueā¦). Over the long haul, though, from a school sustainability perspective, itās good for states to be able to have a larger pool of students to draw from as the number of 18-year-olds starts to decrease (which it will starting next year; 2007 was peak births in the US).
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What was his unweighted gpa? Thatās very important to UF. They donāt like Bs.
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Closer to a 3.8 I think. He def had some Bs. Oh well. Onwards.
I find it hard to believe that every person on that campus has had all Aāsā¦I doubt that they are only looking for perfect GPA kids. My guess for this year with the schools that it has been sort of a crap shoot where they have gotten in! Lots of kids have been deferred and denied but lots have been accepted (where they thought they would and wouldnāt). All I can say is it is what it is.
Weāre definitely hoping for that surprise admit from one of his reaches!
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All I know is what Iāve experienced myself and through friends and their kids. All 3 of mine have gotten into UF. My oldest (2020 hs grad) had Bs and ended up in PACE. Iāve seen the same with other kids I know.
OOS- we are super sad. She prefers UGA so hoping that comes through
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Also on the waitlist for the grandparent waiver. We submitted in mid October. Hoping for the best!
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Since housing information is coming out today, what is included? My daughter hasnāt committed yet (most likely she will do it today), but what else is required to make sure she has the best housing? She already did the $25 deposit in October. Thanks!
Nothing you need to do besides sign the housing contract in the housing portal. After that just wait for the housing selection appointment and be there right when it starts.
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@Melissa96 Do you happen to know when UF will import 25/26 FAFSAs for returning students?
So the email that came out today said over 90K applicants (just as someone said they had heard). Thatās a huge increase YOY.
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Yep! My theory is that UF used to have a very, very early final admissions deadline, so the longer option allowed more me to finish up their application in time. Also, the increasing reputation of UF is contributing.
We can sign the housing agreement without accepting admission yet? Is that correct?