So Michigan is a very mathy school. But their math is next level math and they pride on how difficult it is. Michigan also integrated CS into many, many majors in the last few years,due to what the industries were telling them. My son who was in industrial engineering here and didn’t want to really learn to code walked away learning 6 CS languages. A friend’s daughter a current junior at school of information data science /analytics has learned the same. (great program). So as suggested start speaking to a academic counselor. They will have a better feel of what you want to do and if it makes sense.
Also, and it doesn’t get said enough, Michigan is a very tough school for the best applicant. Two majors and a minor is a lot. Many will major with two minors. Again, counslers are there to help.
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So that can depend on how you set it up. What you posted above in your many different scenarios, you could be looked at as a dual major vs a cross campus transfer with possible different requirements.
My son started in Lsa and looking into actuarial science but quickly realized he wanted engineering. All the basic classes are the same anyway so except for like one class it was basically all the same and he had his ok to transfer actually before THE February 1st deadline. But your technically not in engineering till the fall of your sophomore year since you have to finish up the requirements and write yet another essay. Lol.
At Michigan all your prerequisites are taken with the Lsa /all majors. So your math is taken with math majors. Physics with physics majors with pre med all taking the same classes. They don’t separate engineering out as some schools do.
Thank you! Yes the droids are signing up for a campus day now (we were waiting on CS bc the department has visits on a small number of Campus Days) so we’ll get something booked for lodging straight away!
So I learned something new today. CS at Michigan changed the way they admit about 2 years ago. Too much demand. But there are many pathways to get similar knowledge.
If you apply advanced to CS and don’t get in then you can apply to multiple different pathway in one of my recent links above.
If you didn’t apply to CS but decide you want to go into it, there is something called Enrolled Discoverers. You essentially take some classes that you would anyway and apply for a transfer. This is NOT cross campus transfer. It is slightly different and outlined in this link…
A friend’s daughter as I mentioned is in data analytics. As a sophomore she got an internship for her Junior year with Price Waterhouse Cooper. I know her personally and she can code with the best of them. Lol.
So look at the different pathway still available and look at the curriculums side by side. I will bet, you will see a large overlap. Many different ways to get to an end goal at Michigan. Heck, I personally know people that took a 10 month course in coding (not cheap but hugely less then Michigan) and had a job right away… Lol…
Many of these applicants actually know lots of coding before coming to Michigan. Talk to an advisor. You might be surprised with what you can accomplish…
Per this link, " What kinds of things will the U-M Undergraduate Admissions Office be looking for in determining who will be selected for the CS major opportunity?
There are a myriad of talents and experiences that can help make a student a great candidate for studying CS at U-M, such as dedication to service, an ability and desire to work collaboratively on teams, and consideration of the impact of computing in the context of the broader world. Creativity, innovation, and the learning experience are enhanced through bringing together students from a wide variety of backgrounds and perspectives." – so into CS is also “holistic” – I saw girls seem easier than boys to get in (current CS students 25% female, 75% male") – that is why the boys are so challenge to get in…
No idea. I can’t imagine it’s easier per se for any demographic at Michigan. All their GPA /stats would be very similar. I just haven’t seen a breakdown but haven’t looked for one also.
From the website wording, it seems “collaboration” is most important character UM admission looking for to select who gets in CS… the place that admission officers can learn: 1)your community essay mainly, 2)why Umich essay? 3)Personal statement 4)Teacher recommendation letters… as we evidenced lots of boys with many computer classes taken in community college or colleges not selected in… but less computer classes taken selected in… “Collaboration” nature in admission officers view is much important than others…
thank you so much! that is what i am planning to do. my first choice is to try dual degree computer engineering + spanish but if i am unable to transfer ill do data science + spanish with a possible math minor (depending on how hard it is lol) i appreciate the info
OK… I bet collaboration is key for almost everything students do at Michigan and many other schools. All those study groups etc they want students to do is one way. It’s funny since I had this conversation with my son who graduated in 2021 in engineering and he was telling me about the “project teams” he’s on etc. No question he uses collaboration everyday with many different people from business to engineering and all in between.
Without knowing a lot about you or your goals, I vote for #4 or #6, combining data science with either stats or Spanish, and the other one as a minor. Talk to an advisor of course, but I think data science and stats may play off each other very well.
i appreciate the info