For OOS very likely not (though I guess not impossible). That said, she can try for a LEAD Scholarship. Open to all. Up to $20k/year. It’s a tough get - only about 50/year are granted (+/- 750 kids since its founding in 2008).
What I don’t recall is when we got our Y/N on LEAD and how that timing related to other deadlines. It may be that our kids had to commit prior to hearing from LEAD.
Regardless, congrats to your DD on her acceptance!
I just checked and good news: “After students are accepted to U-M, but before they’ve made a decision to enroll or not, they are eligible to apply to the program, which provides a financial scholarship and community support.”
You are an excellent moderator - a nice combination of enthusiasm for UMich, useful info. and most importantly, the sensitivity to those who are anxious or frustrated. Thank you!
I’ve been wanting to say this for days, but couldn’t find the right words. Completely agree. @Knowsstuff and the moderator on PSU thread are my absolute favorites. It’s a pleasure to read their posts.
I definitely don’t think Ann Arbor/Michigan is the right school for everyone, but my daughter was on a bus less than 10-12 times her entire time there. She was on Central Campus as a freshman and took it to North once or twice that year, then as a senior took a 1/2 semester class at STAMPS, and took it from the house where she lived 2X/week for that class.
I would quibble about how cold it is in recent years, but that’s all relative and we’re from Pa. and are accustomed to it.
I’m editing to add that the amount of bus use depends on where you live – and that’s mostly the luck of the draw for freshmen – and your major. My daughter was in LSA so her classes were on Central Campus and she lived in South Quad freshman year, her sorority house sophomore year, and a house in Kerrytown her final two years. She had no need for a bus, but other majors might depending on where they live.
In fairness and as a counterpoint, we have twins there. One lives on Central, the other on North. The one on North takes the bus every day, sometimes making multiple trips to/from Central in a day.
ETA: It’s suboptimal, but I’ll add that they’re having a great time nonetheless, made a team, has friends, etc etc etc.
Agree with every thing except this part. Writing 800 words about Michigan (550 in supplemental + 250 in LOCI) without repeating is a high bar for even adults, let alone high schoolers. I think this should have been just a yes/no form like other schools, so students can enjoy their senior year.
I do understand prolonging things and making applicants do more work to show their enthusiasm or fit. But, that’s how highly selective admissions has [sadly] evolved.
But, how much time does it take/how hard is it to go on the website, pick a prof who’s doing research of interest, identify a minor and/or a couple of classes you want to take, and/or a few clubs you would like to join/start? I get it’s busy work. And if a student doesn’t want to do it, they can bow out of the process, that’s ok too.
It actually is and was. The only reason why Michigan made the ECI is families kept sending them stuff that they really didn’t want. Hence the form. How much they read into it no one knows.
Michigan attempts to achieve a class with 52% of the incoming freshman coming from in-state. So, yes, the entirety of the freshman class is weighted towards in-state, but no one really knows if Michigan draws (weights) more of that 52% from EA or not.
I’m sure Michigan has a recipe for EA and RD admissions, but with so many schools (Nursing, Architecture, CoE, LSA, Ross, SMTD, STAMPS, Kinesiology, etc.), it’s a complex one.
The comment was about the repetitive part. Whatever you are suggesting is already in the first supplemental. Anyway doing it again is fine, but in my opinion seems redundant.
Well… Lol. I have helped many get into schools including Michigan all OOS. I start with them in junior year doing some of this. Not my profession. I am actually lecturing in FL at a medical conference this weekend. (Generative AI in medical charting systems.)
My magic question is… Wait for it. Lol “What’s the 2 things that excite you about X school.”… Now it’s easy. Just 2 thing’s. I have them write it in front of me. Don’t over think it!!
They are not going to study for Grammer (use proper grammar), but for context. Let them know without using stats on their website or what their ranked. They know that already. Yes, I should of maybe worded it differently but try this at home and see the answers you get.
In terms of the size of campus, if you have to take a bus to North Campus for whatever reason, then I see how Michigan can feel huge. No one likes to take a 10 minute bus ride to or from classes.
But, if you’re an LSA student living near (Central, Hill, Oxford, etc.) or on Central Campus, then all your classes (math, science, chemistry, languages, etc.) will be essentially on one large block in AA. And that large block is across the street from South U and State Street, where all the shopping and restaurants are located.
So the North VS Central discussions have started. This one gets me confused, but here me out. It’s a big school. But yet with a small school feel. 15:1 Professor :student ratio.
We live in Chicago where both my kids took trains to buses to school each way 40 minutes at least. My son lived on Central his first year but worked on north. Lol. Then he moved to North, being an engineering student but some of his friends stayed on central. All engineering students.
It took him like 10 minutes to get to central. He joked it saved him 30 minutes each way compared to high school. I took it with him to central then we walked to the Big House for a game. To me it’s just not a big deal. To him either. You meet other’s at the bus stop. He met someone that they ended up going to the football games together… At the bus stop. The bus can be very social if you want it to be. Take it back from a game and hold on. Lol
So many from NY, Boston, Chicago, cities tend to not think it’s a big deal. Many from the suburbs that don’t take public transportation tend to think it’s more of a big deal. This is the pattern I have seen.
Central is more urban like living in a city and North is more suburban. Both with really good restaurants and stuff to do.
North is very quiet. My son saw Deer sometimes on his way to school classes on north. He passes a man made pond /lake through trees. It was actually very nice. But Central is what everyone think about when talking about the typical college campus. There will be more housing think 2026 on central campus.
On North they were supposed to take down part of Northwood and remake it new with a student tower but the pandemic got in the way.
Always minues and pluses to both. Both have pizza… Lol
yeah, this “fit” story, as someone mentioned above is a challenge without repeating anything my D25 has already covered in the long “Why Ross” essay … she already poured her heart out, it just seem like proposing once again, without saying what was already said when the other person doesnt seem too interested… lol!
Thanks for all the praise but many on here for year’s help as well. @sushiritto and I have been here like 8/9 year’s. He’s the stat man lol. But many many others contribute like @Mwfan1921 and @CCName1 and @DroidsLookingFor that has kids that started this year etc etc. I am missing lots of people so thanks to them and everyone that contributes. It takes a village…
Also… Be nice to each other. … It can get testy here sometimes. We are all on the same team wanting the best for all our kids.
… It can get testy here sometimes. We are all on the same team wanting the best for all our kids.