<p>@alsa2000. But how would allowing more people in as early as January meet the goal of Michigan to reduce over enrollment ? </p>
<p>The issue is not that UM did not admit some people.
The bigger issue is that they promissed a decision by Dec 24. Deferred is not really a decision. UM mislead thousands of people who may have applied and paid a fee because of that promise.
They broke their promise.
They need to be upfront about their </p>
<p>@alsa2000 Where do you find out who your territory admissions advisor is? I’m having trouble finding this information on their website.
Update:
Actually, I found it—the information is under the “contact us” link. You can enter your state and then they show you which counselor to contact. </p>
<p>If you cannot handle several people applying Early Action, then simply don’t offer it. Making it available and then shattering the confidence of several over-qualified students simply because you want to do things differently this year is plain wrong and stupid. </p>
<p>I’m very put off by this entire process. It’s hard for me to value a school that seemingly puts little value on the application process and the time of thousands incredibly qualified students. I can relate to some previously mentioned sentiments that this wasn’t an early decision at all. To defer so many students in pursuit of a yield goal is incredibly off-putting, in my opinion. </p>
<p>Congratulations to everybody who received their acceptance. Best of luck to you all next year!</p>
<p>@maya54 I’m just going by previous trends. By late January all the people accepted ED elsewhere will have (hopefully) withdrawn their applications opening up spots.</p>
<p>What I find interesting is that the stayed goal (in reducing EA admittances) was NOT. To protect a good yield but rather to Lower the amount of admitted students. What I’m failing to understand is how admitting less students EA will achieve this goal if they simply plan to admit them soon. ( I can see how that could protect yield by only admitting interested kids but can’t figure out how it better achieves the stead goal. Has anyone figured that out?? </p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Applied to which school/college: LSA</p>
<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown):
ACT: 34
SAT II:
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.96
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 14%
AP (place score in parenthesis):
IB (place score in parenthesis): Biology SL, Math SL, Theatre SL, Spanish HL, English HL, History HL
Senior Year Course Load: All of the above, Art, IB Theory of Knowledge, Spanish Culture
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):</p>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):Student Council, Bunch of clubs, Link Crew
Job/Work Experience:
Volunteer/Community service: 100 plus hours
Summer Activities:
Essays (rating 1-10, details): 9 or 10, spent a lot of time writing
Recommendations (rating 1-10, details):Great, from teacher I get a long well with</p>
<p>Teacher Rec #1:
Teacher Rec #2:
Counselor Rec:
Additional Rec:
Interview:</p>
<p>Other</p>
<p>State (if domestic applicant):Michigan
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Public
Ethnicity:White
Gender:Male
Income Bracket: 200k plus
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Legacy</p>
<p>Reflection</p>
<p>Strengths: essays, courses, grades, test scores
Weaknesses: none
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: I showed my interest and I am above all of their averages
Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected: none yet
General Comments: Go blue</p>
<p>A deferral is a decision… It always was, it always will be. If colleges don’t defer students, they either have the choice to reject or accept them. Accepting them may cause an over admission of students and leave less space for regular admission applicants, who many be “more qualified”. And rejecting them will prevent Michigan from giving them a spot if their regular applicant pool has too many “under qualified” applicants. A deferral works to the benefit of both the applicant, and the school and it is a “decision”. Just wanted to clarify.</p>
<p>Holding off on the high-stats group until you get information about ED admits not only protects yield, it also promotes more control over numbers of the incoming class. Let’s say that in a typical applicant pool, 50% of high-stats admits will matriculate and 50% of them will not. All other things being equal, the school’s stature improves if it identifies and admits only the 50% who will come. (Its yield is protected AND these stats increase its averages). If you develop some metric that helps you identify these 50% more precisely (say, but “cutting” the kids who are certainly not coming because they have committed to other schools), you have more precision in your numbers. You have more control over the process and are less likely to over-admit later. (In fact, if Michigan had some way of admitting ONLY those students who were going to matriculate, it would have perfect control over the size of its entering class.)</p>
<p>Ackack. That makes some sense. So it seems that demonstrating interest would be very very important rt now. </p>
<p>Does anyone know anybody who got rejected? All I’ve heard are deferrals and acceptances.</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Applied to which school/college: LSA</p>
<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): Didn’t take
ACT: 28
SAT II:
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.98
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):
AP (place score in parenthesis): Didn’t send, all 2’s and 3’s so far
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load: AP Calc, AP Lit, AP Chemistry, AP Gov
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):</p>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): NHS, Student Government, Club Soccer for 9 years, Varsity Soccer (Team Captain for 4 years), Strategic Planning Committee (Chosen by Admin of school), Spiritual Life Committee, Choir, Chorale (Chosen by audition, Lead Soprano),
Job/Work Experience:
Volunteer/Community service: Tons of hours, various mission trips including Nicaragua where I was a translator
Summer Activities: Shadowed an oral surgeon, mission trips
Essays (rating 1-10, details): 9, pretty good essay. I talked about how Umich was like a tradition in my family and how I would contribute to the school like singing in specific choirs and joining clubs
Recommendations (rating 1-10, details): very good 9.5 including a rec from the oral surgeon I shadowed</p>
<p>Other</p>
<p>State (if domestic applicant): Arizona
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Private
Ethnicity: Asian/White (I’m half and half)
Gender: Female
Income Bracket:
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): </p>
<p>Reflection</p>
<p>Strengths: Essays, strong course load, EC’s, legacy
Weaknesses: Test scores
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: Legacy helped a lot I’m sure, my brother currently attends
Where else were you accepted/deferred/rejected: Northwestern (Rejected), Wheaton College (Accepted), University of Chicago (Deferred) </p>
<p>General Comments:
My test scores definitely lacked. The reason why my scores were on the “lower” side is because I’m dyslexic. I chose not to take any standardized tests with extra time because I wanted to be compared to everyone else on the same level. Most people who know me aren’t even aware that I’m dyslexic (I wrote my common app essay about this). This probably set me apart from your every day applicant.<br>
University of Michigan uses a holistic review and this is probably what got me in. They didn’t just look at a test score and accept or reject. I’m so thankful to have been accepted!! </p>
<p>Congrats to everyone that was accepted and good luck to everyone that was deferred! </p>
<p>@maya54 I’m not sure how you can further demonstrate interest - you have already applied, took the trouble to write the essays, etc. What would certainly help is for those not interested to make it explicit to Michigan. Either you got into an ED/EA school, or you want to drop out of the race for any reason. This will make it easier for everyone. At the end of the day, if you said nothing to Michigan and let your application be in the pool, you are demonstrating interest. Writing a letter about “burning desire”, etc., sounds phoney. It’s not a commitment and it’d actually be foolish for anyone to not be looking at bunch of other options than Michigan.</p>
<p>Really - you can’t figure out how to demonstrate interest??? If you were from OOS did you go to the school and take a tour (they track that - just like most other schools). If you were from in state and didn’t take a tour that should have disqualified you from the very beginning. When the regional admissions rep came to your high school did you meet with her/him? Did you email that rep (whether or not they came to the school) to ask questions about the school or simply to show your interest?</p>
<p>Or were you like thousands and thousands of others who simply filled out the applications and believe that their “superior” grades and “incredible” SAT/ACT scores combined with a nauseatingly long list of EC (so long that any admission counselor would realize no actual commitment to any one activity) guaranteed them a spot at one of the top 4 or 5 public universities in the county???</p>
<p>No college is looking for a perfect student - there is no such thing. They want students who have shown outstanding performance over time, desire, commitment, and an actual INTEREST in their school. If you couldn’t figure out how to write an essay that showed interest but didn’t sound phony, then your essay was actually quite poor. An excellent essay is the one that shows a students qualities while simultaneously showing an interest and DOESN’T sound phony. If you couldn’t figure out how to do that - you shouldn’t have applied.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts on the matter.</p>
<p>Go Blue!</p>
<p>The release from UMich says that they need to cut down on acceptances overall since they have oversubscribed in prior years. They have not yet “gotten” the right numbers to get the class size that they want. So, ti makes sense that they are dropping the EA acceptances. </p>
<p>However, that they seem to be deferring more of the high stats OOS students than those with the lower stats also points to them trying some sort of yield control. Trying to accept those kids who are most likely to accept the offer rather than holding out for better which high stats kid may be more likely to do.</p>
<p>Whether this strategy will get UMich the best class, I don’t know I know a number of kids who did apply EA to Michigan when it was not their first choice school, did not get into their ED schools, did not get into their very top choice schools and then it came down to UMich with a sticker price about $10K lower than the private schools left and sometimes throwing in another $10K merit to sweeten the pot . If the interest for the school stuck.</p>
<p>The thing with these kids is that some of them want the process over with the EA and would not apply further, with UMich being a clear top runner in that group of schools (or the only school). The deferral might mean other school apps and other considerations Though EA is not binding, it does catch kids who just don’t want to continue with the app process, but if they have to do so, it reengages them into other schools, not to mention the pall that a school that deferred them has. I know my son was set with his EA batch. Loved the scholarship offer one of them made and he was going to stick to this batch and choose that school if his ED schools did not come through. A deferral would have just been off the table. That way, some high stats students could be lost in that Umich would now have to compete for the selection on the RD schedule. </p>
<p>Hopefully, UMich gets a grasp on its numbers, and also give some clarity to everyone by releasing them It’s really a shame that a large prominent state school is not releasing their admissions figures freely.</p>
<p>Letsgoblue, the kids deferred from UMich at son’s school had great numbers, visited the school were genuinely interested (one is a legacy) and some were accepted to ED schools with a more thorough and personal app process, as they are small private schools that pride themselves in so doing. One has a sibling there who was accepted a couple of years ago with lower stats So something is going on here on a systematic basis, not likely a more intensive applcation review of holistic attributes Not enough time and staff to do so, though UMich has always had the rep to be more attentive in this regard than other giants, like, say Penn State that goes by the numbers. </p>
<p>It’s hard to say without them releasing even the usual numbers for apps and admissions. Whether this year’s strategy is going to result in higher ratings, a better class, a more future applicants, I have no idea. </p>
<p>@letsgoblue2019, I don’t think it’s fair to blame the kids from the northernmost high schools in Michigan for not taking a tour. It’s actually a shorter drive for kids anywhere in Indiana, Ohio, or Illinois to visit the university. Heck, it’s a shorter drive from St. Louis, Missouri than from Calumet, Michigan. </p>
<p>@letsgoblue2019 The question is not whether you WERE interested. I’m sure every one of the applicant was interested, that’s why they applied. Even if their interest was for Michigan as a backup or one of 100 schools they applied. It’s whether you have to demonstrate interest AGAIN after deferral. My belief is that it’s easy to write or say anything now to “demonstrate” interest, burning desire, etc. It matters zilch, since every one of those deferred can do that with no consequence. What would really help is if those NOT interested in UMich for any reason to demonstrate that (ED/EA acceptance, got sick of deferral, whatever). They can withdraw their app and make room for others still in the pool. </p>
<p>Son was accepted to CoE! He is thrilled.</p>
<p>SAT 2300 (M800, R 720, W 780)
SAT Subject Tests (Math II 800, Physics 800, Chemistry 750)
APs (5 AP Euro, 5 BC Calc, 5 Physics, currently in AP Computer Science, Multivariable Calculus)
GPA 3.5<br>
OOS (New York)
Lot of ECs like everyone in NYC.</p>