D25 Microbiology (pre-science) received $4,200/yr P&G scholarship.
We visited in summer of 2023 for my S24, Admissions told us at the time that the highest amount they were giving was $6000/yr.
Not sure about this year.
Not much difference, compared with 90k plus a year private schools, 60k UWASH totally doable after the scholarship, lol.
Since when has going to college become something like a luxury bag purchase?
In-state schools won you the financial numbers, not kids hearts and emotions. Also a difficult decision for us, but at the moment, UWASH is still on.
Where did you see that waitlist number from last year?
how difficult is it to let kid become independent and qualify for in-state tuition after two years? 40k-50k worth the trying?
Itās from their Common Data Set, but I just realized itās for 2023-2024. Sorry about that. They havenāt posted 2024-2025 yet. They do say this on their site: ā2024: 1,845 of the 8,232 students on the waitlist were offered admission.ā So, not as many, but still a good amount.
thank you! Iām surprised common data set isnāt out yet for 24/25? Very interesting
Not worth trying. Itās almost impossible. You have to cut off all support and stop claiming them as a dependent. Can the student afford in state tuition, room and board without support?
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I wouldnāt bet my kidās future on the waitlist, if they are in a highly selective or capacity-constrained field.
If you stay on waitlist in these fields, think of it as having bought a lottery ticketā¦
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And, will they be able to defer enrollment, or will they have to go through the selection process againā¦
The competitive state universities understand out-of-state students/parents would much prefer to pay in-state tuition, so of course they make if very difficult. Not just a UW specific situation. Also, one of the primary reasons universities accept so many out-of-state students is exactly for that higher tuition, to help fund the school and keep the tuition low for in-state families.
Without a deep-dive on it- I think an oos student would need to move to the state, not attend UW, establish residency for ~1 year and then reapply (and get accepted) as a resident. Not desirable for most situations.
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No, but thereās no harm in signing up to see what happens. My son was accepted, but into a capacity-constrained major so itās still a lottery ticket for him.
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OOS is pretty much ātake it or forget itāā¦ plenty of kids in line for your kidās spot.
The whole system is rigged to ensure OOS pays at/near full price. Most of these schools would have to drastically reduce their operations /shut down without OOS subsidizing what their legislatures refuse to do.
And, with all the chaos in DC, the price is only going to go upā¦ so also be aware of your options regarding tuition caps/guarantees.
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Not saying ādonāt do itāā¦ saying, āuse some common senseā, and put a deposit down on you next fave option.
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Situations vary. In most cases I agree with you, but say a kid inherited some money from someone other than his or her parents and can pay everything without parent support, then again I am not sure whether the UW system will let that pass either.
From my position, state flagships should give an option to in-state kids if theyād like to pay full to improve their chances .. lol..
Being admitted to OOS schools with 20% acceptance rates, and rejected by your state school with 50% acceptance rates, makes little sense.
The least UW can do is be a little more transparent (and honest) about how they admit.
PS: please donāt take my words seriously, Iām very bitter today.
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This also relates to the waitlist discussions. These flagship schools have a pretty good feel for how many in-state students will accept their offer, they call it āyieldā at it runs right in the 60% range for UW in-state. So they just accept 7,500 in-state students and know theyāll get the 4,500 number they want in the class.
Out-of-state yields for most schools are way down since the move to the common app, just driven by students applying to many many more schools (7-10 regularly). So itās much tougher to estimate this lower yield. This would point to the waitlist being leaned on more heavily for out-of-state students generally. Also, as discussed above, all universities need that higher out-of-state tuition to pay the bills.
Tell UT Austin thatā¦, college admission is more like a business run by AO, your child qualification only matters to some.
There may actually be an opportunity to force that kind of change through the legislature ā¦. Sounds like a lot of qualified Washington students may have pissed off parent-taxpayers to deal with.
Re: acceptance rates, you know more than i do about the rates for Business DA, but Iād bet UW (@ USNWR #18) has similar rate as the other top schools your D got into. Which says something very good about her success rate in the highly selective biz school lottery, despite not getting into the one she wanted.
I understand. The only advantage many other states have is that they have options of several reputable schools; WA only has one, and it hasnāt scaled with the population explosion in Seattle area over the past decade.
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I think Austin made an attempt to limit applications this year by reverting to test-requiredā¦. But as a top school in so many fields it still is a crap-shoot.
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