So do you self report grades as of Feb 2024? i believe term 1 grades (nov) were sent so not sure if my daughter is expected to re report thos or mid term grades of term 2 (feb 2024) which happen to be even higher LOL
I get your point, but I actually wish the opposite, and that more schools did even exchanges across states.
This may be based on where we are from. In states like CT and RI, thereâs nothing to see. The state is tiny, and has one flagship. In the case of UConn and URI, they are decent enough but not top rated or close to it.
Many kids from these states want to get out of the state and see something new. Which makes sense. UConn for example doesnât have real reciprocity with other states. But it would be nice if UVM, UMass, Binghamton, and others all allowed kids to attend for in state prices (if they states swapped the right number of kids and costs).
If you live in California, you have like 12 great in state options. You can live in SF and travel to the other side of the country and see UC San Diego.
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Yes we have a lot of great options that are basically a lottery even if your kid has a 4.0+. Which makes them not so great options!
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Probably, but the lowest UW GPA of a self-reported acceptance on CC was a 3.6
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The problem with reciprocity exchanges is that many public universities need OOS students paying OOS rates to help meet their budget. Itâs likely one of the reasons why itâs more difficult to get into Wisconsin if youâre from Minnesota (reciprocity state).
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It makes sense for public schools to give preference to in-state students. Iâve paid taxes to help support the UW system for decades, which is why the in-state tuition is lower. Iâd be very upset to know an OOS student with similar stats was accepted and my child wasnât. I feel this way even though my daughter wants to go OOS.
In my state, there are legislative rules preventing the public universities from admitting OOS student with lower qualifications than in-state. Thatâs done on average, so the pool of OOS has to have equal or higher qualifications than the pool of in-state.
Your feeling makes complete sense. However, many public universities are receiving ever-decreasing financial support from their states. For example, 78% of Michiganâs budget came from the state in 1960. Today itâs only a meager 13% (General Fund Budget Snapshot | U-M Public Affairs). For UWâMadison, 43% of its budget came from the state in 1976. Today itâs less than 15% (https://budget.wisc.edu/content/uploads/Budget-in-Brief_2021-22_V15-1.pdf). As important as state taxpayersâ dollars are, public universities have no choice but to look elsewhere for revenues. Hence the skyrocketing tuition and fees, and the more than 50% of OOS at many places including Michigan and UWâMadison, to the detriment of in-state students and families. One can certainly question some of their spending, but universities are inevitably in an arms race to compete for students.
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Weâre in WA, and there is a reciprocity agreement with most public schools in the Western States except for the CA, the University of WA, University of Colorado, and Iâm sure a few others. Some of it is restricted to particular majors for each school. Itâs typically not âin-stateâ tuition, but usually less than 50% of the difference between in-state vs. out of state.
Other schools will try to tell you from the start that theyâll give your OOS money to come there even before applying: University of Arizona was estimating giving my son -$20K off of out of state tuition based on his unverified stats, we know several families that have applied or attended and those figures usually hold true. University of Minnesota supposedly going to give -$10K.
But, my son wanted none of the above options ⊠
I donât think the numbers are as high as Michigan or Wisconsin, but the University of Washington has a reputation here that most alumni children have no chance of attending and need to look private or out of state, as the focus has shifted to higher paying out of state and international students. Some will even stoop to sending their kids to ârivalâ schools that theyâve traditionally looked down upon, which can be a hard sell to your kid, as youâve been bashing and making fun of that school when they were growing up, and now youâre trying to sell them on how itâs a great school!!!
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And it ends up being a circle because the more OOS they accept, the less the WI tax payers want to pay to support it.
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Yes, this recoprocity is a 1-1 exchange for the big state flagships basically. Last I checked the number of Wisconsin students at the U of MN was a bit higher than the reverse. And MN students pay MN tuition. Which is a bit higher than in state UW admission. The smaller regional unviersities have more flexibility on their recoprocity numbers.
Admissions from the twin cities has gotten to be really competitive as someone who hs been watching the process and helping out students for a number of years. And it is not just about stats. But itâs about filling programs where there are holes and trying to target students that are very likely to enthusiastically show up to campus on the fall.
I agree with state schools prioritizing state students. However, public universities are receiving less funding than ever and I think many are between a rock and a hard place on bringing in more funds.
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But itâs simply not true. In 2022, 70% of the entering class was Washington students.
There are competitive majors with low admission rates. Some kids donât make the grade - but there is W Washington, Washington State, UW Bothell, etc. etc.
People say things like that if their kid didnât get in (like a justification) but it doesnât make it real.
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if we do not self report midterm grades, think that will negatively impact the student?
And though I canât cite the specifics, I know that in CA, changes in funding for the UC system has been directly tied to limits on OOS students.
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I would say it wonât help. Did your studentâs deferral letter not ask for updated grades? Our letter asked for updated grades, and the below link repeatedly mentions wanting to see their updated gradesâŠ
Defer FAQs â Office of Admissions and Recruitment â UWâMadison (wisc.edu)
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I would think it would most likely be a deal breaker if you did not self-report grades. The letter that was posted said that was the main factor in making a decision on deferred students.
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Yes, I think this is one way of showing continued interest. It would be awfully easy to sort out the students who didnât jump this hoop.
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OOS D24 rejected at Wisc. 33 ACT, 3.7UW/4.1W, 7APs, 9 college classes. Varsity Tennis Captain, lots of musical extracurriculars and awards, government activities, honors societies and leadership positions.
What major? I think Pilate compiled a list of self reported decisions. 3.8 seems to be their cutoff.