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<p>LOL…I’m going to Cornell. My Friend is going to UPenn… They seem like neat schools, but I can’t deal with City Life anymore here at Philadelphia…including the murder-homicides o0.
Guess they didn’t tell you that!!!</p>
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<p>Yeah, murder-homicides are a real downer…definitely worse than those shin-kicking homicides that was once as bad as it got…</p>
<p>Seriously, what’s a murder-homicide? something even more ghastly than a murder, or homicide?</p>
<p>F.U.D., I banish thee!!</p>
<p>just IGNORE this thread people, 10 pages and a month old means it’s ready to die</p>
<p>Although post #139 from monydad is quite fascinating. Really shows you how much the elite reputation of a school is manipulated to prey upon prep school social anxiety.</p>
<p>chemistry department at cornell is nothing short of amazing. the faculty are…ridiculous. i got waitlisted at cornell and ended up going to upenn but i’m trying to go there for grad school on chemistry now.</p>
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<p>Pietrov… I was just about to tell you to keep your voice down or else a certain Penn student who thinks that a Cornell education is only good for working at fast food restaurants might show up. But it’s too late now, as muerte has become hopelessly disillusioned with her own worldview and is currently slinking away into a corner to sob uncontrollably.</p>
<p>muerte - why is it so hard for you to accept that, in the real world, no one is going to think any differently of someone who went to Cornell than UPenn? </p>
<p>It’s as if you think there’s only 1 or 2 programs at Cornell that could match UPenn.</p>
<p>Employers might raise a slightly higher brow for HYPMS, but that only lasts a moment because it’s just you and you have to actually prove your worth to them. All the rest of those top schools, from Duke to Northwestern to Cornell and UPenn, are indistinguishable in terms of reputation.</p>
<p>Seriously. Move on. You made a choice, now live with it. Stop trying to validate it.</p>
<p>Sure, think whatever you want. You can create your own meaning, and your own college rankings too.</p>
<p>I love how this is my 666th post.</p>
<p>You’re going to be in for a sad let down when you graduate, no matter what rankings by which you have chosen to define your life. </p>
<p>I wish you well.</p>
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<p>Though I agree with meurto about the intellectual ability of Cornell’s student body, I agree with applejack in this situation. In the job market, even amongst uber prestige whores like those on Wall Street, a Penn degree (non-Wharton) is probably only negligibly better than a Cornell degree. Neither can compare to an HYPMS degree. I’d say they’re functionally equivalent.</p>
<p>Getting a job has less to do with the name on your degree than it does with your own capabilities and accomplishments. In this regard, there is absolutely no difference between a Harvard degree and a Cornell degree. That argument, consequently, is ridiculous.</p>
<p>In any case, that’s a stupid reason to choose a school. Brown/Penn/Columbia/Dartmouth may only be “negligibly” better and might not have ANY effect on job prospects, but it’s impossible to deny that I am much happier at Penn among more like-minded and - let’s face it - generally smarter people than I was at Cornell.</p>
<p>Of course, a pre-professional Cornell kid like applejack would make the above argument, but as I’ve shown, it’s a tad shortsighted.</p>
<p>This is what I would compare it to:
You have two choices for donuts: Dunkin and Krispy Kreme. Both will leave you satiated, and Krispy Kreme is really only “negligibly” better; in the long run, the net gain over Dunkin will be zero. But during your coffee break, wouldn’t you be much happier eating Krispy Kreme’s fare? Of course! Why sacrifice even those few short minutes?</p>
<p>Regardless, I happen to disagree with your basic premises; the large majority of cross admits to both schools do, as well. The Cornell board is the only one that considers Cornell undergrad equal to the other Ivies in any way, unless you’re in engineering or architecture - or unless you REALLY wanted to study soil science. Go Barbara McClintock!</p>
<p>Final point: applejack, let’s agree to disagree.</p>
<p>I am a culturally-obsessed ******* who transferred because she wanted to have a group of friends that was equally fluent in Proust, post-structuralism, and partying. In cognitive science and cork-popping benders. I wanted it all, and Cornell wasn’t giving me that. So please, give a poor girl some peace and let her leave your forum. I’ll try not to bash unless I’m provoked.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if that post was directed at me, but I’m not denying the above. I was commenting specifically on the value of a Penn vs Cornell degree in the job market. I understand your intentions in transferring.</p>
<p>No, not at you, dontno.</p>
<p>muerte- believe it or not i actually can understand you. in my case cornell would be my version of taco bell and any other ivy would just sell burgers (cornell=only 1 w/my major) It really sucks you were that unhappy at cornell, but it happens… </p>
<p>I don’t agree on the intelligence of students because that is far too subjective to delve into. It’s not right to single out engineers or architects because their programs are fantastic. There are a TON of programs in CALS equally or better ranked that do not get attention. Now some ppl may not consider agriculture or environmental as important a major as engineering, but I think majors like these will gain a lot of steam soon based on the situation of the nation. but you had every right to transfer if you weren’t happy. the only thing i dont understand is why you had to use the radical thoughts and insults you have used in the past to express this unhappiness.</p>
<p>For anyone interested in a dispassionate and informed assessment of Cornell University juxtaposed with Penn – rather than vain attempts at petty one-upmanship by certain transferees espousing many specious arguments – please read the following insightful abstracts from Sallyawp with care: </p>
<p>Sallyawp Post #63</p>
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<p>Yes, all quite true. It’s as I said before; with the exception of a few cases, basically any degree from a top-15 - maybe even top-30 - university will get your foot in the door. From that point onward, the individual must distinguish herself on a personal basis. A 3.0 from Harvard in ___ will simply not compete with a 3.4 from Cornell in the same subject. At that level, it’s presumed that the coursework is all of the same rigor. Of course, if it’s a specialization that school is known for, such as engineering from MIT/Cornell vs the same degree from Dartmouth, there might be a discrepancy. But for everything else, truly the ONLY thing that matters is personal distinction. As such, in choosing a university, the only deciding factor absolutely must be limited to fit.</p>
<p>Penn was a better fit for me. It had nothing to do with rank; I suspect that Chicago or Brown, which traditionally have a lower rank than Cornell, would have been equally sufficient. I applied to neither, but I might have in a different universe.</p>
<p>career results will probably be similar. it is important to note; however, everyone i know that was accepted to both penn and cornell, about 10 people, went to penn, and a few that got into cornell but not penn, about 5 people, would have gone to penn had they been accepted. penn appears to have more prestige, but there is probably very little difference overall.</p>