@rgosula I agree with you. NOT leadership. feels more like a lawyer wrote it. I was disappointed when I read it.
I would have preferred to see something like “our policies, processes, and staff failed us. We will review every policy/process related to admissions, to athletic selections, to staff hiring and review. We will audit all acceptances that could be deemed to have been part of such schemes. We will address every issue discovered, and most importantly, we will make sure this never happens again.”
Then in a week, I would announce diplomas that were rescinded, students that were expelled and additional firings of staff that should have caught the wrongdoing.
@CADREAMIN You are correct The USPS service only provides pictures of flat mail and merely reports pending deliveries of packages with activated tracking. They do not take pictures of packages, which the acceptance package is. USC does not activate the tracking. In certain rare case, someone incorrectly at a local post office has misclassified the package and a picture is reported. I think that is why a few folks may have had it appear.
@prouddad2020 exactly. Feeling the value of my sons degree getting devalued by the scandal, and by Austin’s response above. Wondering if this year’s yield will take a hit.
A few folks have questioned current leadership and that is just not tolerable to me. Dr Wanda Austin did not seek this job and has not had it long enough to bear any brunt of this event. She is a lauded alumnus and it should make anyone connected to USC proud that she was willing to step in until a permanent President is named. Trust me that this was a huge paycut from jobs she had or could have had.
Heads up to college applicants and parents, the long posts and so called “gatekeepers of this forum” are not helpful. Unless you’re USC admin and are on the USC payroll your novel length replies, arguments, and insults to “jealous parents” take up too much space. In the end, unless you work for USC admissions your posts are baseless speculation.
@JohnGaltIII, I understand that Dr Austin is not there that long, and all this did not begin on her watch. But her response was pathetic, and that is the leadership I questioned.
@nicachelles Wow somebody is angry and frustrated. Not sure of the reason to attack people that are helpful. Everyone has the right to their own opinions even if it differs from someone else. No one is claiming to be a gatekeeper, that is a title being given by new posters that only come here to blast others and try to turn cc into a trash talking site. That is not the purpose of this forum, yahoo comment section is where that stuff goes. There are some great people on here that put in a lot of time to help others while some don’t help anyone at all and just come on here to blast good people. Everyone just loves being a victim these days.
@blueskies2day who said I was angry? Do you personally know me? You made an assumption that people are jealous or that somehow people who post often have a key to get in. Stop and because I’m not angry I posted. Get a hobby and stop name calling from a computer that’s like what you said for Yahoo. Unless you have valid useful information supported by data anything posted is simple speculation.
this is a technical legal strategy. in order for legally consider fraud/rico, there has to be a victim. the government is positioning the universities as the victims. By USC positioning themselves as victims, that would help the government prosecute the group.
USC would probably do themselves a big PR favor by just expelling Loughlin’s girls right away. They don’t need to do a 3-month review. The kid probably won’t care.
@Goose15 I know it was written by attorneys for a legal strategy. Similar to past scandals where USC just looked the other way or ignored complaints, I am a bit skeptical that the same did not happen in this situation. Prove me wrong and act boldly. That is my point.
@CADREAMIN@JohnGaltIII - Yes, Informed Delivery DOES TRACK USC ACCEPTANCE PACKAGES. I’m a first time poster and have no skin in the game (both my kids are already attending college). I’m going a little nuts with the constant misinformation. I’m only here to clarify that last year on March 23rd, I saw our daughter’s USC acceptance package on our Informed Delivery before it arrived. Scroll to the BOTTOM of the email (below the regular mail notifications) and you’ll see any packages coming. Informed Delivery notifications reflect items tied to YOUR address, so it makes no difference if USC (the sender) chooses to track or not. Check it out on USPS website. Sure enough, her white box was there when she got home and it was the ONLY package from USPS we received that day or the days surrounding. I’d post a screenshot of the Informed Delivery email, but I don’t see an attachment icon.
For everyone who is strongly upset as to how USC has reacted to the scandal, do the rest of the applicants a favor and withdraw your applications, and stop venting on this thread.
@CADREAMIN others in this thread said the saw it on Informed Delivery last year. If it’s mailed as an envelope and not as a package, it will be photographed/scanned and you may see it if they weren’t too lazy to do all the mail! But you will also know if you are getting a package if it’s designated as a “package”!
@captainronnie That would be nice, wouldn’t it? The sad reality is that many who apply and get in… projected to be 63% of those admitted in fact, based on last year’s yield rate of 37%, will then reject USC ultimately and attend elsewhere. Many will of course do so reluctantly, as they will determine that attending just may not be financially feasible for the family. Many though - unfortunately - just were never truly invested in the idea of attending USC in the first place. For them, USC was just one of many schools that they applied to in total. They will decline and attend elsewhere… maybe to their true dream school scenario. It is a shame that these days applicants feel compelled to apply to so many schools just to be sure that they at least have 1 or more quality choices come April. Any applicants who truly know that they will not attend if admitted should do as you suggest and step aside… but I also highly doubt that any will do so. I have always contended that if USC had an early action or decision option, that they could increase their yield rate and alleviate a lot of this stress on kids. Those who know that USC is their top choice could apply early and learn their fate early too. USC was the first choice for both of my kids, so we had no alternative but to suffer through the angst and turmoil of waiting until late March. I remember that tension well (especially with the delivery of my younger daughter’s admission package two days late) and sympathize with all of you (the applicants and their families) that are going through such now.
And yes… the excessive venting - especially on this thread specifically - is pointless. If it must be done, there are threads exclusively designed for such. Vent away there by all means… and leave this thread to the applicants and their families and those that are endeavoring to assist them through this process as best we can.
@1stTimePoster@lakergirl6232 I think we are all saying the same thing. Some do get through, but most do not. When it first started, several years ago, yes, the sender had to enable tracking, I understand how it works, but the USPS website made that clear then. Technology changes everyday.
We asked posters that received merit this past January to let us know if they saw it and every one that replied (which was several) said it did not show up on USPS and no one said it did. So just going on passed history which is all we can do. On the applications threads like this one over the last several years, we have only heard from 5 or so saying they saw it on USPS. So statistically that’s very few compared to those that do not. It’s easy to check, so will be interesting if more are seen this year.
@SlimJim005 - last year my two DS were rejected by USC. We too had the “three marks of the beast”(male white parents still married). My DS’s had high scores and decent ECs. So, you are not alone. The good news is they both were accepted to other schools and are excelling and happy. I wish you luck in finding your "happy school.’
In regard to the earlier reference to married parents being a disadvantage in the admission process. My thought was if your parents are married, it is one less struggle you had to overcome. That’s why it might be a “mark” against you.
As for USPS informed delivery, as stated by @CADREAMIN, the vast majority of those that had USPS Informed Delivery and were also lucky enough to receive an admission package in years past did not receive advanced warning. We did not. A handful did so… but most did not.
Also keep in mind that USPS is only circa 95% accurate in terms of hitting their target delivery zones on time. As I just posted above, in 2017, my younger daughter’s package arrived after the portal updated. USPS missed our delivery time window by two days. So two days became four. Do not lose hope until you know for sure… via the portal update. The absence of informed delivery or even the absence of a packet on the day that you are hoping for one is not the final verdict. The portal updates are. In fact… each year, many first learn of their admissions via the portal updates and not through the “mailbox moments” that USC tries so hard to arrange for those admitted.
And if you would like to find out your theoretical and 95% accurate delivery zone time frame, you can use this link and enter your address. You can use 90007 as the originating zip code.
