<p>“Natural intelligence is way better than academic success. Why do you think Intel winners or people who ace the AIME can get in to every school regardless of their grades?” - uh those people have academic success maybe? they demonstrated they can do work and do work.</p>
<p>their achievements (winning a huge national contest) put them at the top of the applicant pool.</p>
<p>only 12k people take the AIME and only 4 get a perfect score. average score is a freaking 2. (<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIME[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIME</a>)</p>
<p>so yea, you’re a genius if you ace the AIME much more so than if you get an 800 on the SAT I math or SAT II math2c. you’re a rare dude and should have recruiters knocking down your door.</p>
<p>you picked the worst possible examples you could. why not ask why olympic medalists can get athletic scholarships anywhere?</p>
<p>“I took NYU over WashU, it is much better at econ. and math, my areas of study.” - good for you man. i got waitlisted at washu and i would have gone to NYU anyway if i had gotten in. but you have to admit that washu is much tougher to get into and has much more academic prestige.</p>
<p>“Honestly, who with a 1350 or 1400 SAT I didn’t take do well on the SAT II’s or completely skipped them? Stop being ■■■■■■■■, my friends weren’t lying, since they applied and got into other schools besides NYU that did require the SAT II. Maybe the world is a lie to you.” - no i just expect numbers and facts to back up what people tell me. 95% of statistics are made up on the spot and if NYU posts some SAT II stats that beat berkeley’s then i’ll happy eat my hat (that rhymes i am a gangsta rapper btw).</p>
<p>i know plenty of people who lied about their SAT scores. i could have said in this thread that i got a 1600/800/800/800 and there’s no way you could have proved definitively that i didn’t.</p>
<p>“Your link supports my argument, California is ranked 43 out of 50-pretty close to the deep south and damn near the bottom, it was beaten by Tenn, Oklahoma, and Georgia.” - you said it was at the bottom; not that it matters. i’m sure that the UC admissions boards aren’t ■■■■■■■■ and realize that there are plenty of bad public schools in their state and i’m sure they use that as an admissions factor. and as i’ve said, public high schools systems aren’t indicitive of the student body. MA and CT have the best public school systems in the country and yet their public unis are pretty crappy.</p>
<p>“Also, the illegals in California were not counted, that would even lower CA’s already dismal ranking. QED.” - nor were they counted in any other state.</p>