Is it a good idea for me to train maths and physics and sciences untill august? Are people ‘’ welcoming ‘’ there? And after these results i have to apply to top universities?
“As a french student…”
I will assume that this means that you are a citizen of France, and speak French fluently. Also, since you were asking about universities in the US earlier, I will also assume that your English is quite good.
Also, as you know in North America (both the US and Canada) you need to first get a bachelor’s degree while completing specific premed requirements, take the MCAT test, and then apply to medical schools. In Canada it is possible, but not common, to get accepted to medical schools after competing premed requirements but without getting a bachelor’s degree.
As a citizen of France, at least for undergrad you will pay either “citizen of Canada” tuition or maybe (?) less at any university in the province of Quebec.
There are three English speaking universities in Quebec. McGill is the best known. It is academically very strong and very demanding, and has a well deserved strong international reputation. It is very good for undergrad, but A’s are hard to come by. It also has a very good medical school. I know the medical school at least a few years ago did accept some international students, but I do not know how competitive it would be for a citizen of France (other than “very”). It is the only English language medical school in the Province of Quebec.
Concordia is a relatively large and very good university that is just up the street from McGill. Bishop’s is a small primarily undergraduate university in Lennoxville, which is a very small almost fully bilingual town either in or very close to Sherbrooke. These are the only two other English language universities in Quebec. We toured both (along with McGill, and schools further to the east in Canada) when one daughter decided to attend university in Canada (we are from the US, but I grew up in Montreal).
There are quite a few French language universities in Quebec. The largest, best known, and highest ranked is the University of Montreal. It is one of the highest ranked French language universities in the world. It also has a very good medical school. The University of Sherbrooke (which is in Sherbrooke) also has a good medical school. These are the two French language medical schools in Quebec. Either university would also be good for undergrad and would have a good premed program.
One other school to consider is the University of Ottawa. Since it is Ontario you would not get the “citizen of France” discount that you would get from the universities in Quebec. However the University of Ottawa is an officially bilingual university. It has a significant tuition break for bilingual students. I am pretty sure that to get this discount you need to take some of your classes in French and some of your classes in English. It again also has quite a good medical school.
I think that it is well worth taking a close look at all of these universities. I am not able to fully understand what the cost would be as a student from France at the various French language universities, since my French is weak enough that I have not taken the time to fully look through their web sites.
One small nit: Canada and the US share a system for accrediting medical schools. I am pretty sure that this means that if you graduate from medical school in Canada it is possible to do your residency in the US, and then be a doctor in the US. Some do this, most prefer to stay in Canada after getting their MD.
I see that someone above mentioned CEGEP’s. I do not know much about them. I do know that there is an English language CEGEP on the campus of Bishop’s University in Lennoxville, and another on the campus of McGill’s second campus in Ste Anne de Bellevue (to the west of Montreal – McGill’s agricultural campus is there). We found admissions at Bishop’s to be very helpful, and they might be able to tell you whether you should plan to start at a CEGEP or at a university. The admissions staff should also be helpful at most of the other schools that I mentioned.
Yes, I’d recommend you work on Khan Academy, Biology, Chemistry, Physics, and Precalculus/Calculus.
People tend to be welcoming, yes.
Everything adds up. Your “cote R” is made of every semester. You have to be on top of things right away. So, right from the start, you have to be among the best students - no bad attitude, no relaxing. But you also have to be collaborative because you can’t be a cutthroat selfish jerk (your teachers will write about it in your recommendations). You have to have excellent study skills (look up “crashcourse Business soft skills” and “crashcourse study skills” in your search engine) and show your best self (interpersonal communication, collaboration, leadership). People are generally more relaxed and less aggressive than in some French programs. Professors in particular are funny, tell personal stories, have hours to help you succeed, etc. But it’s college and you have to do the work, be responsible.
Also, remember: it’s their country, YOU have an accent. (Lots of Quebecers complain that French people who come to their country complain about the way they speak… which 0_o)
Oops. I missed one medical school in Quebec. The Universite de Laval also has a medical school. I do not know much about it obviously.
Thank you so much for your answers! @DadTwoGirls Thank you for listing me every single universities! But i dont know if i can attend to those universities due to my grades… I think that is the reason why @MYOS1634 suggested me cegeps…! Because my average gpa was like 2.9-3.2 if i haveto compare it to the us system.
So i guess its cegep then med school right?
Yes, cegep and hard work. Then, if your record is deserving, med school. …or anything else.
You need to be at 31-32 at the end of your first term. And the o my way for you to reach that goal is to start reviewing math and science, but also French and philosophy/history of ideas since you’ll have exams in that too.
Admission to medical school after CEGEP in Quebec is limited and extremely competitive. While a French citizen would pay the Quebec tuition I am not sure if you would be considered a Quebec resident for medical school admission.
And is it possible, after my cegep to attend a canadian medical school?
If you are not a Canadian citizen/landed immigrant it would be very unlikely. Quebec only admits a handful of intternational students to its medical schools.
I dont want to kill anyones dreams but do know that even if you could get into med school here in the US at this point it would be a good 4-6 years minimum to even get yourself into a place to do that successfully (then add in the other years in medical school IF you can get it so you are looking at at least almost 10 years minimum before becoming a doctor most likely).
You need very good grades in all math and sciences, plus substantial money and likely some real life experience with healthcare could help.
I know people who did horribly in school as teens and had wild early 20’s who did eventually focus and do what was required and are now doctors but realize they entered into medical school in their 30’s.
(I have some friends from Canada and know very basics about their colleges and universities there but its been interesting to hear about other parts of the world.)
Thanks for your answers! Im still young, im only 18! I think that i reacted at the right moment. Even if i didnt had good school reports, i had average grades, and i believe that i can do it. Why 10 years by the way? @2plustrio
@MYOS1634 So i can go for the cegep then? My doctor degree will it be recognized in france?
thanks
Thanks, @MYOS1634 ive looked around, and some ‘’ filières ‘’ in your links are most likely : nature sciences etc, i hope its not a problem since i want to become a doctor
Degrees from Quebec are recognized in France and vice versa but I don’t know how it works for medical degrees.
You can apply to one of the CEGEPS I listed ASAP if you want a shot at starting in August or January.
10 years… because that’s the bare minimum for medical studies (it’s often more like 12 years. So you’d be spending as many years in college/university from now on as you have so far since you were 6. Are you ready for that?)
Im ready of course, but im sorry to say this, am i supposed to wait 12 years to earn money? Just asking because it will be hard for me and the rest of my yfamily who arent gone
I think med students get some stipend during rotations, but, yes.
You could try for PA, which is kind of like “généraliste” in France, it only lasts 6 years. There’s nursing too.
Thanks! I want to become an ‘’ urgentiste ‘’ an emergency doctor. Ok so the path that i have to take is : cegep > med school. If my grades are very good, can i integrate top universities? Or they will look at my high school?
There are two options in all cegeps : science humaine / de la vie ( nature ) which one should i choose
Not typically med students but US medical school residents (those who have graduated medical school already but are completing their 3 plus years of specialty certification) do get a wage although quite small but enough to cover some living expenses.
I know in the US its about $30-60,000 USD a year to attend medical school so you would multiply that by 4 years.
In Canada it can be slightly cheaper. In Canada I thought they wanted 3-4 years of college before applying to med school?
If you do some online research you may find that 80% of Canadian applicants are not accepted to medical school. Theres only about 8 medical schools in Canada that will accept international students. Ive seen the statistic that less than 1% of first year medical students in Canada come from overseas. Canadian medical schools really want to give their citizens the spots.
Again, not impossible but truly a steep uphill battle to climb. Do as much research as you can on your own, contact possible medical schools of interest and ask them for recommendations. Look up their admit statistics such as how many applicants do they turn away each year, what is the minimal grades, etc required.
“So i guess its cegep then med school right?”
I think that the typical path for a student from Quebec would be graduate high school after grade 11, two years of CEGEP, three years of university leading to a bachelor’s degree, then four years of medical school. After this recently graduated MDs do some number of years of residency, which the number of years depending upon their specialty. CEGEP is not all that hard to get admitted to so this is likely to be a possible path for you. However, you will need better grades in the future.
In the US and the rest of Canada the typical path would be to graduate high school after 12 years, four years of university leading to a bachelor’s degree, then four years of medical school.
Universities in Quebec know how to deal with students arriving at university having graduated after 12 years in either the US or the rest of Canada, without going to CEGEP. These students will spend four years at university (and therefore graduate at the same age as students originating in Quebec).
Admission to university is somewhat competitive and typically in Canada mostly depends upon your grades. Admission to medical school is VERY competitive and requires very high grades in very tough university courses. Neither of my daughters are premed but both have majors that overlap with premed classes so I have gotten a good sense of how strong premed students are and how hard they have to work to get good grades.
One warning about converting French grades to the US or Canadian system: Students sometimes get this wrong. Universities and CEGEP’s in Quebec will be very aware of the grading system used in France. You will be compared to other students from France.
YES!
Do you think it’s easy?
Let me emphasize:
It is long, hard, tough, competitive, expensive, tiring, and depleting. You will be on a shoestring budget. No money or time during your studies, and, a number of years without money and being careful with your money. You will still owe money.
Thank you so much. Ive learned a lot through your answers. And sometimes my way of writing isnt the way of how i think so im sorry if sometimes it looks a bit weird. And im sorry sometimes im miss understanding.
So i have to go to a cegep then i have to do university years or going directly to med school ( if i got into) ?