Want a Career as a Speech-Language Pathologist? Ask a Professional

Well the COL in California is ridiculous and has been for a long time. School SLP’s are getting a little bit better pay, but when I worked, we were paid on the same teacher scale with just a tiny boost in pay because of our Master’s degrees.

It was embarrassing what I was paid. Thankfully, I was married to a man who made 4 times my income with less years of education. Most of my college friends could not afford to purchase a home, of any size, and most were renting. Hospitals paid a tiny bit better, but the hours were longer.

Our State averaged out the number of therapists by the numbers in Spec Ed with speech services. So we all had supposedly an average of 55 kids per therapist. But . . . . . the numbers weren’t equitable. I had full caseloads of every kind of kid including augmentative communication evals, and device-building along with my voice, fluency, artic/phonology, language and DHH caseload kids.

That’s why I finally went to the private agencies who “protected” us by keeping our numbers low with stronger pay/benefits and better hours. We were placed at public schools that tried to hire us later from those agencies for cheaper rates. Nope, didn’t happen.

I am fortunate in that my school pays well (for schools) and my caseload is small.

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@SpreadsheetMom, I just sent you a solicitation that I received at 12:46 PST.

Remember that I told you that I still get offers of employment every day? Well you now have today’s solicitation to have your daughter review. I sent a message to you.

For the rest of you, here is the edited version of my email today.

Enjoy the summers and holidays off with school-based work!

The 23/24 school year may be underway already, but The Stepping Stones Group is hiring SLPs for a variety of school-based opportunities throughout CA; full-time and part-time W-2 opportunities with great pay, benefits, and clinical support. Virtual positions are available as well!

Just in case you’re looking for a specific area, we also have positions in the following metro areas:

Sacramento

Los Angeles

Fresno

Bay Area

Central Coast

San Diego…. And more!!

What’s in it for you?

*Referral bonuses

*Licensure assistance
*Professional development allowance
*Competitive compensation packages

*Over 35 clinical field managers that provide clinical support to our staff
*Access to our online professional development program, XXXXXXX which offers free ASHA-approved CEUs, webinars, printable resources, and more!

If you have any colleagues interested in school-based work, we are offering a $1000 referral bonus for our full-time positions available nationwide.

Are you, or someone you know, ready for a new SLP position? I look forward to hearing from you!

Best,

Career Services Manager

EVERY SINGLE DAY I get one of these and one call per week even though I’ve asked them to unsubscribe me.

@SpreadsheetMom as I noted a few times on this thread and elsewhere on this forum…I had a very rewarding and fulfilling career as a speech language pathologist, working mostly in a primary school. I was fortunate to work with a remarkable special education team, and this made the job more that just a job.

I do encourage prospective SLPs to have a conversation with a few current SLPs in varying settings (schools, hospitals, clinics) so they are aware of what the job entails. I think that’s where your daughter should start.

When I am asked to discuss this career with future SLPs, I am very honest about the pluses (loved working with the students, teachers and families), and the minuses (tons of paperwork, data collection and meetings).

I did this for 7 years in NH, and then for 30 in the same school district in CT. I, like @aunt_bea receive(d) calls about open positions and actually did 10 leave positions after I retired from my full time job. I continue to do very limited private practice work, and I’m active in my association.

This was absolutely the best career for me…but it’s not for everyone. Get as much information as your daughter can. And go from there.

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I am so grateful for you all sharing your experiences! I’ll have my daughter sit down and read the entire thread. :slight_smile: Thank you so much!

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Great. There are several links to various parts of the ASHA website upstream in this thread.

If she has other questions, feel free to ask. There are a few of us in this profession as you can see…and we would be happy to answer any questions she has.

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Hi all – it’s been two years since I asked a million questions about speech language pathology on this thread on behalf of my D22, lol. She is now a senior (double major in linguistics and classics), and after MUCH waffling and exploration the last couple of years, she’s decided to apply to grad schools this fall for SLP.

Because she’s out of field, she’ll need a year of leveling courses – although all the schools differ in their requirements. But she’s narrowed her list to programs that include the leveling courses as part of their overall curriculum for students who need it.

She also looked at ranking, cost, location, and a few other factors and arrived at the following:

UT Dallas, U of South Carolina, U of Memphis, U of Tennessee, UVA, U of Alabama and Georgia State. Does anyone have any experience with these programs? All of them seem to be reputable, but I’m a little concerned they might all be crazy hard to get into. I don’t have a good sense of what constitutes a “safety” school for SLP grad school. Can anyone make suggestions?

Her academic record is strong – she has a 4.0 at Rice currently – and I have no doubt her essays will be strong as well. I know she has good relationships with professors, so hopefully she’ll be able to get good rec letters. She’s worked as a TA for various professors every semester since sophomore year in Intro to Linguistics, Phonetics, and Linguistic Analysis.

She has a couple of reasons she can discuss for her interest in SLP – a sibling who has been in speech therapy since infancy and was still getting speech services his senior year of high school. (She was able to shadow in one of his sessions last year, along with the rest of the therapist’s sessions that day.) She’s also a singer and has a deep interest in vocal health.

What she does not have is any experience working with children or adults in any kind of camp/teaching/medical setting, so I think that might hurt her. (Except for one internship in high school where she worked with little kids in an early childhood music class, but that was a long time ago.) She wants to be in an education setting, not medical. She does have some leadership experience on campus and an extensive background in theatre – she’s acted, produced and directed shows, so she can work with people. But I don’t know if she really needs more relevant experience.

She’s currently in Houston, and she’d love to go to UT Austin. BUT, that program requires an out-of-field student to apply to their own separate leveling year, and then there’s no guarantee of being accepted into the masters program itself. She’s still willing to take the gamble, but the leveling year is a transfer application, and she wouldn’t find out until next June whether she’s even been accepted to the leveling year, whereas she’ll find out in March about other full programs, and needs to enroll in one by April for fall 2026.

Is there any way to make this work to keep UT Austin in the mix? She’s at a loss.

She needs to just apply and see. ALL SLP masters programs are competitive for admissions. There simply are not enough seats in these classes for everyone who applies. There really aren’t “safety” programs…but some programs that are located in smaller towns or places where a lot of students might not prefer to live will be more likely. As noted in my OP, I got my bachelors at Ohio University which is in Athens, Ohio. And I got my masters at Western Illinois University in Macomb Illinois. Both small programs in more rural parts of their states.

The main thing she needs to look for are masters programs that are accredited by the American Speech Language Hearing Association. Really, “rankings” don’t matter that much. It’s this accreditation that is the key ingredient.

And she wants the school to be affordable. Most masters SLP programs do not fully fund their students.

She can also apply to a program where she will do an additional year. That first year will be to fill on any holes in her current preparation course wise. So this would be a three year program instead of a two year one.

If she doesn’t get accepted this round, she should try to get some experience working with children, and working with special needs students would be a plus. It’s possible she could do this work and take some of the required courses for SLP masters admissions part time. IF she can find a college that will allow her to do so.

I’m going to tag a few people who might be helpful. @knowstuff has a kid who entered SLP studies after an undergrad that was not related. And a few years after undergrad graduation. I’m sure he can give some info.

@happy1 probably also can contribute their perspective.

@twogirls and @aunt_bea can also give some info to you in addition to what I wrote here.

I will say, I’ve worked with a few folks who wanted to be SLPs who also didn’t have that experience or course background. They were highly motivated to get this done…and they did. But none were directly out of undergrad school.

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Thank you! I’ll pass along your advice.

Yes, all of the programs I mentioned are ASHA-accredited, and they’re also all 3-year programs because they add the extra year of leveling courses. (In some cases, it’s only an extra semester.) She did take the other prereqs she’ll need for certification like Bio, Physics, Psych and Stats in undergrad.

I hear you on the cost – that’s why Georgia State is on her list, because it’s in-state for us and less than half the cost of the others.

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There are no safety schools for SLP- she has to apply and see.

Take a look at SUNY New Paltz. I know somebody who did her prerequisites there online, as she also came from a different major. She worked with kids while taking the classes.

There are programs that allow you to enroll in the program while taking prerequisites- this creates an additional year for the degree. I believe Columbia has this as well as a few others, but I would need to research.

University of Connecticut also has a three year program.

Your student might want to check Sacred Heart and Southern Connecticut State University. Both in CT.

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LONG

I guess since I’ve been retired, out of school for a while, and have had students complete their CFY with me, I’m out of the loop for current admissions.

She needs exposure to kids. That would be my first concern.

Second concern is getting into a grad school program. It’s limited because of limited university staff. Seats are very limited. Those of us that can teach at a university program, really don’t want do it. I had completed my thesis and they were trying to groom me to be a professor because I was 6 units away from my PhD. But I wanted a career in the field.

My experience was in geriatrics at my first hospital, and then I worked a pediatric hospital. I finally worked the schools (3 kids born) and I made sure all of my state certifications and licenses were covered.

So, on top of the undergrad, I did an additional four years of training in the masters program, and spent two additional years on my research for my thesis. (Our program required a thesis).

Here’s the thing, all of our SLP experiences are extremely different. But most importantly, in this field, an SLP needs to know how to handle behaviors, especially in a classroom setting, without help from staff.

In undergrad, we had to record and submit observation hours in 4 different settings: schools, hospitals, clinics and SNFs. I had had years of babysitting experiences with my siblings and family members and private jobs.

Nothing prepared me for observing how others handled behavior. I made sure that I learned by watching what was effective and worked for the therapists.

In California, we were required, at that time, to have a teaching credential. REASON: Because at some point, an SLP needed to come twice a week, during period 3, to lead a classroom of non severe Special needs students with a supply cart full of school supplies and lesson plans. I did that at my last job.

I think at this point, if your daughter plans on doing peds, she needs to volunteer at a local school. I was fortunate that I had exceptional teacher experiences to observe. The teachers were kind, gentle, but firm and effective. I’d like to think that I became that kind of person, and I think I did. My former grad students always told me that they loved the way I taught and how I disciplined.

My last student was (“Katie”) from NYU and most of her studies were done virtually. Katie wanted a CFY experience on the West Coast and apparently found me through NYU and ASHA. My boss really wanted her on his staff for schools, but she wanted to do the clinical route.

Katie wanted a supervisor who had had hospital experience, as well as school experience and bilingual certification. (She had limited school experiences, but eventually wanted to try her hand with bilingual populations.)

By the time she finished with me, her Spanish had grown exponentially and that’s because the kids and the parents also helped her.

Katie completed her hours at my school, but I also prepared her for a local hospital. We took extra time, so that I could explain Medicare and insurance codes. We spent a lot of time in showing her the differences between school assessments, required by the state, versus hospital assessments required by the insurance companies. In the end, she really liked her experience with me, and I had a really good, prepared future colleague. She ended up getting hired by a top hospital in our area. She’s still there; she loves it!

In our district, we required volunteers to be cleared by the State so potential volunteers had to go through the school district office. They fill out an application. They have a TB test done and they will go through a state screening.
Your daughter needs to be confident enough to be able to handle students of all ages, abilities, and incorporating her student IEPs into her lesson plans.

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My D is a SLP and did not have a speech background as an undergrad. She was a STEM major with a theater minor undergrad. You have it correct – the options are: 1) do a program to get the prerequisites and then apply to MS programs or 2) find a MS program that accepts non-SLP majors and runs them through the prerequisites as part of the program.

My D’s strong preference was to find a MS program that would accept her out of undergrad and include the prerequisites as part of the MS program. She was way more comfortable knowing she was in a MS program from the start. She found (I think) six grad programs in the Northeast (where we live) which accepted non-SLP majors into their MS program – some had summer sessions and others added an extra semester to the program so that cohort could complete the prerequisite coursework. Going to a local college to get the prerequisites was her back-up plan.

The direct entry programs (at least where we are) were all competitive in terms of admissions. Some things she did that may have helped her were: 1) worked with children at a special needs summer camp and a special needs preschool; 2) took an intro to communications disorders class at a local college during her school break; 3) shadowed SLPs in a few different settings (clinic, special needs preschool); 4) did a great deal of research as an undergrad – and FWIW she did have speech therapy as a young child as well.

Your D should focus on what she has (not what you think is missing) – working with the professors sounds like a big plus, the theater/singer background is interesting as well.

I think any ASHA program can get her where she wants to go. She may want to understand what rotations are available at the different programs and what transportation is needed to get to them. And as with undergrad, I imagine she can accept a spot in a MS program and if something preferable comes up later, she can give up that spot, lose the deposit, and accept the preferred option.

D is very happy in the field. Feel free to PM me if I can help with anything else.

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Thank you all so much! I am still reading and digesting all of this, lol – but will have D22 read all of your posts as well. I so appreciate the advice!

I’m sure I’ll be back with more questions as she gets further into the process. :blush:

So grateful to have found this thread as a resource!

My daughter is a freshman at Pitt and currently pre-Health Sciences within Dietrich Arts & Sciences. She can remain within Dietrich to complete a variety of pre-health majors: Biology, Biology Sciences, Psychology, Neuro etc. or she can apply and transfer into an upper division school for a more specialized major: Communication Science Disorders within School of Health and Rehab Science or Exercise Science major within the School of Education.

She entered Pitt unsure of exact career direction but interested in PA, PT/OT, and SLP. She is leaning more toward CSD and SLP path but is concerned about being too specialized if she ultimately pivots and wants PA / OT etc. She has 70 credits transferred in and all gen eds and pre-reqs completed to apply for upper division majors and enough open credits that she can take Intro to SLP and Prof Issues in CSD courses this spring before applying into SHRS. I don’t see much drawback to pursuing CSD with the goal of SLP or even Audiology should she have an interest there, but worry if she doesn’t do the CSD major and ultimately wants SLP she won’t have the pre-reqs for grad school SLP she’d have to do a year of leveling courses potentially. Pitt has a CSD minor but from what we can see they aren’t the same pre-reqs as the masters program requires.

She may have the credit availability to pursue a double major (CSD and Rehab Sci or Exercise Sci and is already completing a dance minor) and is meeting with an Advisor to determine if that path may make sense for her. She’s also pursing any speech shadowing/hospital/clinic setting opportunities she can complete this winter/spring. Of note, but not determinative - tuition is 6k more annually in the SHRS upper division school than if she stays in Dietrich to complete her undergrad. She will likely graduate early and complete her total undergrad in 3 years (2 presumably in SHRS beginning next fall).

I think if she continues moving towards CSD/SLP she would be very interested in applying to Pitt’s master’s program for SLP but because she didn’t apply as a GAP CSD major or have a guaranteed seat I’m not quite certain how competitive she’d be for remaining seats and I know cohorts are limited.

Any general advice on her decisions and pathway given her interests, credits. Job prospects and salary post-grad? Thank you in advance!

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I will be watching this thread more closely now, and I am glad you have kept it alive. Unfortunately, I don’t have any advice, but hope to learn more from your experience and discuss with my daughter.

She was just admitted to Pitt last week and also received acceptance to the GAP for Communication Science. This was pretty unexpected, and It has really made her think hard about the impact that could have. While she is currently very committed to the SLP Career path, she is still young and we understand things can change quickly once she starts her undergrad studies. She was lucky enough to work at a Private Speech Therapy clinic this Summer and it seemed to increase her desire to stay on the SLP path, but still I know more people that changed their mind than stuck to their desired career path they thought they wanted to pursue at 17 years old.

She is also a dancer (competitive from a young age), but not quite as committed to a long term pursuit of structured programs. I have asked several times if a Dance Minor was something she would be interested in, but as the daughter of a Studio owner, I think she is actually looking for some “freedom” when she goes away. I think she will always have a love of dance, but pursuing classes on her own time will likely be her path for dance (or perhaps a class or two through her school of choice).

Going into the application season, her number 1 seemed to shift from Tennessee to Penn State. She had a great visit to PSU in the Spring where she was able to meet students from the CSD program in a one-on-one setting organized by the HHD Recruiter. Very impactful in a positive way. She never would officially rank her favorites, but just based on time spent talking about each I would have ranked them PSU, UTK, JMU, then Pitt. Pitt was interesting to her as one of her favorite people in the world is a Sophomore in the Nursing program. They grew up together in the Studio and is almost like a sister to her (and an extra daughter to my wife the Studio Owner). But from a “vibes” or community setting perspective, she really seemed to be more comfortable during the visits to schools in the traditional college town setting than she did during our time at Pitt.

I wish your daughter the best in her decision, and hope to see a lot of feedback on this thread.

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The key is…she needs to take the required courses for admission to SLP programs of interest to her. Those requirements can be checked on each masters degree website, and they vary a little.

It sounds like she loves Pitt and would like to stay there. My advice would be to look for other programs in the area that have American Speech and Hearing Association accreditation as well. Since SLP masters programs are competitive for admissions, it’s good not to put all your eggs in one basket.

Re: possible interest in OT and PA…slightly different required courses for masters and professional programs in these areas…but it’s possible.

In all cases, it would benefit her to get some experience working with populations with these needs. And discussing and shadowing all of these professions. As noted by the above poster…some volunteer work within these areas of interest would be good.

I’ll tag @twogirls and @aunt_bea for their input as well.

At this point, speech language pathologists are needed in many places. It’s a designated shortage area in the schools here, for example.

Salary will vary depending on geographic location, and work site.

She will also want to consider whether she wants a school based, private, clinical, hospital job. Will she want to work on a school schedule, or year round. Will she want to work with adults or kids or both.

All of the post masters questions will probably be teased out before she gets her masters as in all of the professions she is considering, she will be doing clinicals in a variety of sites.

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With regard to Pitt Gap and being young, I agree. She may (or may not) change her mind.

I think it is important to shadow and speak with SLPs, OTs, PAs etc in different settings, if possible. That will give your students more information about these professions.

My daughter shadowed 2 different professions which made her realize they were definitely not for her. I think it is important.

That being said, years ago I was not encouraged to shadow. I stumbled into this career (SLP) by taking an intro class out of curiosity, and never looked back.

SLP requires specific prerequisites that are unique to the field, as well as some more general requirements. While students can take these classes after graduating, it adds to the cost. This is true for anybody changing paths after graduating.

As far as salary, it depends on location and setting. OT/SLP generally make similar salaries where I live, with PAs earning more. SLPs and OTs have an advantage in that they can work in hospitals, schools, etc.

SLPs and OTs can work as a contractor and do well, but they will not have the benefits that employees have. Educators in my area (including SLP) actually do pretty well, with decent salaries and good benefits. Again, it depends on location.

Masters programs are competitive, and I agree about not putting all of your eggs in one basket.

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Agree with the above comments about shadowing. For my D the decision to pursue a career as a SLP was cemented after she shadowed a SLP, OT, and PT. All equally great paths, but speech pathology just felt like the right fit to her (she is very happy with her choice).

Also agree that the Master’s programs for SLP are competitive and each program has some different prerequisites. My D got her MS at a school which accepted people without a SLP undergrad degree and built the prerequisites into the program (there were only a few she found where this was an option) which worked out very well.

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My daughter is working on applications now, and she’s doing the same thing – only applying to schools that offer the prerequisites as part of the program for out-of-field applicants. Usually they’re three-year tracks instead of two, but every school does it a little differently.

She’s narrowed it down to 18 schools that she’s interested in, with about 10 of those being the ones she’ll focus on first.

We’ve learned some interesting things about this process – seems like private schools are easier to get into, but they’re also much more expensive. So my D22 is targeting more public schools. She would love to be someplace like NYU or Northeastern – but those don’t seem financially feasible.

Pitt is appealing (my younger daughter just got accepted to undergrad!), but unfortunately it doesn’t offer the three-year track for out-of-field applicants.

At this point, she’s just hoping she gets at least one acceptance! Two acceptances would be great so she could compare offers. If she doesn’t get any, the plan is to apply to a leveling program and get those classes out of the way, then apply to two-year programs again next year.

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