I’m interested in what will happen with the player Djam who videotaped the underage recruit having sex. Making sex tapes of minors - I wonder if he sent it around to the others.
cheddarcheesemn…very good point…he may get himself some jail time too. recording and trafficking in kiddie porn.
@roethlisburger "The only thing grotesque about this case is the girl hasn’t been expelled for making false statements to the police. "
I didn’t see that in the article. Is there another news source for her false statements?
And this round is over. Team is back to practicing and will go to the bowl game
They met with the President Friday night and it sounds like he pretty much tactfully called their bluff. Convinced them the students wouldn’t be reinstated at this time and he was prepared for the team to not go to the bowl game. It seems the latter was a surprise to the players. They may not have had the leverage they thought they did.
The players apparently accepted the commitment for the players to receive due process with a diverse review panel.
Maybe they realized this was the wrong fight. Serial/group sex, a drunk girl, filming it. Absolutely disgusting behavior.
A main argument by the players leading the boycott was that the information that the university and police department had was not known to the players. But with the release of the 80 page police report to the TV station, they could see what was in the report.
“A main argument by the players leading the boycott was that the information that the university and police department had was not known to the players.”
As if they need or should be privy to any info before the general public…
I would like to think there were some team members that weren’t gungho about the boycott in the first place and could see that the behavior was deplorable whether there winds up being legal penalties or not.
Now this boycott looks very silly.
Agree… they drew attention to something the school would have been much better off to have been ignored… AND they not only realized they may have had the story wrong, but also discovered that their university was quite ready & calm to call their bluff. They didn’t win much here…
Maybe they brought more attention to the issues of sexual contact or misconduct involving athletes in general?
“Maybe they realized this was the wrong fight. Serial/group sex, a drunk girl, filming it.”
I agree with you that this was not a good hill to die on. That’s a terrible fact pattern for accused football players. The only way to make the story look uglier would be to set it in a fraternity house bathroom.
Here is the the EEOC report.
http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/U%20of%20M%20EOAA%20redacted4.pdf
Having read the EEOC report, If I were the president of the U of M, I would suspend this entire season for the football team, including the upcoming bowl game, and fire the coach. The entire incident is now more about the culture of the football team (which the coach is directly responsible for and if the media report is correct the coach seems to support players and their boycott), and not just about 1 or 2 players.
first off it is not a report from the eeoc the eeoc is federal bureaucracy .this is the u of m eoaa a state university bureaucracy. the fact that a team of 19-20 year old ball players crumbled after pressure from their families and administrators (about ending their futures making a stand not involving them)comes as no surprise. the initial stand was more shocking.
I read the report from the school bureaucracy and it proves nothing and carries zero legal weight. those ten students (all of whom are black) should approach a group like the NAACP for support. because the other students caved does not somehow change the situation for the people whom the DA declined to prosecute. an attorney in a civil lawsuit would declare this “report” an 80 page school sanctioned slander.
it even states that the “eeoa” requested information from actual legal investigators who have the weight of the law behind them and were denied access.( no way they have a right to that info) this situation is not finished and those 10 students may have engaged in group sex or whatever but if it was consensual any objections are based on morality not the law and should not lead to school sanctioned punishment. is their a clause in the schools student handbook forbidding group sex?
again I do not like sports, think sports have no place in a college and as a person who was bullied in junior high/high school I am not a fan of jocks or frats but I believe in this case the school is so afraid of title 9 issues it went on a preemptive crusade.
@roethlisburger your username is hilariously ironic in this case.
The trouble here is that the undisputed parts of the case make the players look awful. The group texts are gross. We can disagree about whether there’s enough certainty here to justify expulsion. But there’s really no question about whether these players brought the football team into disrepute, which is plenty to justify suspending them from the team. It’s arguably enough to justify suspending the entire football program.
Based on the EOAA report linked above, there hasn’t been a formal hearing yet as to any of the academic outcomes. I’m sure the expelled players will request them. Hopefully they will have good legal advice and a meaningful opportunity to defend themselves.
The U of M redacted report describes a highly unusual circumstance. There’s some holes in her story and in the players stories. If the events happened exactly as RS described, I don’t believe she would have met A2 again at 4:41AM after returning to her apartment. The only undisputed fact that would justify suspending a player would be the filming of the underage recruit.
And people wonder why rape victims don’t always come forward. If there’s any uncertainty about a case (or even if it seems cut-and-dry), plenty of people will assume the worst about the accuser and the best about the accused.
This is what I thought. The football coach may need to find another job.
"My question is: Consensual or not, how does he feel about the image of 10 to 20 of his players lined up down the hallway to take their turn with a woman who claims to have been inebriated? What are his thoughts on the video that has emerged from the incident? What about the texts his players exchanged afterward in an effort to hush-up what happened?
The incident just doesn’t square with the grandiose holistic approach to be a student-athlete. Furthermore, there isn’t an athlete on any campus in America that hasn’t been warned about the perils of such behavior. Technically legal or not, certain behavior can lead to suspension or expulsion. They all know that."