What are the best math programs that I could considers safeties?

Applying as a math major.

Some info about me:

GPA: 4.613 (W); 4.0 (UW)
SAT: 2200 (M: 800, W: 720, R: 680)
Class rank: ~3/165

APs: Calc BC, US history, American Gov, Macro Econ, Psychology, Statistics, Physics 1, European history, Physics C Mechanics and E&M

Post-secondary: Number Theory, Linear Algebra, Critical Thinking, Intro to Philosophy, Java Programming
Other hard classes: Multivariable Calculus

Extracurriculars:
Mock Trial (4 years, Secretary then VP, 4 best attorney awards)
Model UN (3 years, Co-Treasurer, 3 superior delegation awards, chairing international conference in October)
NHS member
Varsity Lacrosse Freshman year
Varsity Track Sophomore through Senior year
Jazz Choir & CVC Honors Choir (separate from school)
100+ volunteer hours

Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions!

Where do you live?

And what is your cost constraint?

Also, what subareas and career goals?

I live in Ohio, and I can probably pay a max of 15-18k per year total. As for subareas I’m not too sure; I’m taking a number theory course right now and it’s the most interesting thing I’ve learned about, so maybe cryptography or computer science. I’m not too much of the engineering type actually. Also I would consider law school as an option because I love mock trial and government. I’ve read that math as an undergrad is good for law school because of logic and stuff.

side note: I secretly plan on being a musician and doing none of that. But don’t consider this in your responses.

Would The Ohio State University be affordable after financial aid and scholarships?

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is that what your parents said or are you guessing? You need to know this, so ask them to be sure.

It probably would be, but another thing is that I really want to go out of state. It’s likely impossible to find an OOS school that I could afford as a safety, since all the schools that give lots of aid are super selective, but 40% of my school goes to OSU and I really want to experience new people and a new lifestyle.

@mom2collegekids that is not what my parents said, but I know have a deep understanding of my financial situation, and I know that this is an accurate estimate.

As far as public go, try SUNY StonyBrook. I know for a fact that their math program is stellar and with your stats they should throw some money at you.

I would give the super selectives with large endowments a shot. Their financial aid may surprise you if you get in.

@smokinact thanks! I’ll give SUNY StonyBrook a google search. And my first choice schools are exactly that—super selectives with large endowments. I’m just worried I won’t get into any.

Alabama.

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Ok, but do make sure you discuss this with them because parents sometimes can throw you a curve that you’re not expecting.

Also…another issue…What will happen if you get into a top school, but after they look over your parents’ income, finances, and anything you have, the school expects your family to pay a lot more than $15k-18k per year?

You have a 1480 M+CR. If you can bump up your CR, I think you’ll be more competitive for top schools.

A residential college will be a new lifestyle compared to high school, and a school as big as tOSU will have far more new people than the same old people from high school. Chances are, you probably won’t see the same old people from high school in your advanced math courses, and probably rarely in your other courses.

The Ohio State University is the biggest university by student wise. I don’t think half of your firends will be taking advanced math courses like abstract algebra and real analysis.

How big is your high school? Ohio State has over 40,000 undergrad. I can’t see going there NOT be a change in lifestyle from your high school. With that many students and a campus to accommodate the students, you could easily not see any high school classmates (including past and, later, future years) in your entire time. Ohio State is very good for math - don’t dismiss it so quickly.

Most colleges that offer enough advanced math classes to meet your needs will be either very selective private universities or else big state universities, which generally do not offer very much need-based aid to OOS students. Alabama would be among your best options for merit scholarships; check out its math offerings. However, I agree with others who are suggesting that TOSU is the safety school to beat in your situation (unless you decide you cannot meet its Expected Family Contribution.)

Any interest in a Tech school? Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago gave my son with similar stats a very large merit scholarship-he basically would only have to pay for tuition.Math dept is excellent, and many recruiters come to campus for internships/job placement.

If you have any interest in Philadelphia, Temple University would automatically give you the Presidential scholarship-full tuition with 2 summer stipends of $4k each.

St. Olaf would be a great choice combining an excellent math dept with excellent choral program in a liberal arts collage. They also gave my S a large merit scholarship.

Alabama would also be a good safety choice, but I have no experience with them.

Threads involving STEM always seem to tack in the university direction. Respectfully, @tk2176 – and you did say “most,” not “all” – it’s not too difficult to find a LAC with forty or more math offerings, with maybe 25 of those on the 300 level or higher. These colleges may be very selective as well – and this is a thread about safeties – but for this student, someone else’s reach could easily be a match or near-safety.

I forgot about the LAC option. I remember that St. Olaf has a strong rep in Math. Early on in the search for a college for my DD I was looking at LACs and I would spend time on their math department’s website and I was pleasantly surprised on the collaborative nature of the math classes and the focus on forming a strong foundation to suceed in advanced mathematics.

While the LACs may not have the course offerings of an OSU or other research universities, the quality of the education may be better.

I second st Olaf for math+choir/music. For it to be a safety, you would need the demonstrate interest starting now - fill out the request info form, to compete for the merit scholarships, click on every email they send you.
Apply the tOSU honors as soon as the app is up.