What are US top 7 universities good at?

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<p>what are the US NEWS top 7 schools top notched at? </p>

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<p>Definition: Top notched=top 5 in the nation all around top 5.</p>

<p>Let’s consider the following 17 areas: math/physics/chemistry/biology/geology/computer science/English/politics/economics/sociology/psycology/history/bussiness/education/medicine/law/engineering</p>

<h1>1 Harvard (top notched in 11 areas)</h1>

<p>math/physics/chemistry/biology/English/politics/economics/bussiness/education/medicine/law</p>

<h1>1 Princeton (top notched in 5 areas)</h1>

<p>math/physics/English/hisotory/economics</p>

<h1>3 Yale (top notched in 4 areas)</h1>

<p>law/English/hisotory/psycology</p>

<h1>4 U Penn (top notched in 1 area)</h1>

<p>bussiness (wharton)</p>

<h1>5 Duke (?)</h1>

<p>top notched in medicine? or basketball?</p>

<h1>5 Stanford (top notched in 16 areas)</h1>

<p>math/physics/chemistry/biology/geology/computer science/English/politics/economics/sociology/psycology/history/bussiness/education/law/engineering</p>

<h1>7 Caltech (top notched in 5 areas)</h1>

<p>physics/chemistry/biology/geology/engineering</p>

<h1>7 MIT (top notched in 9 areas)</h1>

<p>math/physics/chemistry/biology/geology/computer science/economics/bussiness/engineering</p>

<h1>20 Berkeley (top notched in 12 areas)</h1>

<p>math/physics/chemistry/biology/geology/computer science/English/politics/economics/sociology/psycology/history/engineering</p>

<p>So ranking universities using by quality of all these individual programs, the result should be like this</p>

<h1>1 Stanford</h1>

<h1>2 Berkeley</h1>

<h1>3 Harvard</h1>

<h1>4 MIT</h1>

<h1>5 Princeton/Caltech</h1>

<h1>7 Yale</h1>

<p>I don’t know where to rank Penn and Duke. I believe US NEWS ranking does not make sense.</p>

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<p>Duke has a good engineering program I believe, particularly BME.</p>

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<p>Duke BME is good, but overall Duke engineering is on the same level of F U Foundation</p>

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<p>Not to argue with the original poster, but how can Stanford be top notch business when they don’t have an ug business school, while Berkeley’s business school is ranked third by usnews is not considered “top notch”?</p>

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<p>This is so ridiculous and biased it’s not even funny. What are you basing your idea of “top notch” on?</p>

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<p>There’s no way Berkley can even touch the rest of those school, let alone be #2.</p>

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<p>first of all, all of your ranking are based on grad programs. There aren’t any ug rankings for lib arts or sciences as far as I know published by USNWR. The only one that can then be divided out like you’ve done are the engineering disciplines & the business disciplines.The only schools on your list that fall in the top three in business disciplines (finance, accounting, etc.) are Penn, MIT, UCB. Apperances in top 3: Penn - 8, MIT - 4, Michigan - 4, Berkeley - 2). Under engineering MIT,Stanford, & Berkeley account for the most top 3 finishes (MIT - 7, UCB - 7, Stanford - 4, CIT - 1, Duke - 1). Then you’d have to figure out the top three (or whatever) in the lib arts disciplines for UG as they are not always directly related to their grad programs.</p>

<p>EDIT: I only did top three as I don’t have access to the full version of USNWR yet.</p>

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<p>I’m sorry, but the original poster’s ignorance about the strengths of both Penn (it’s not just Wharton) and Duke (good job, you can’t even come up with one area surely, as seen by the question marks) is enough for me to totally discount the “ranking” system.<br>
Besides, I’d like to see some evidence about where you go ranking the different areas. Word of mouth? Common (mis)belief? Come on now.</p>

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<p>In terms of graduate rankings, Stanford does have the most distinguished programs across the board (amount of top 5 programs). Berkeley has the second most, followed by Harvard.</p>

<p>For only professional schools (law, medicine, business), Harvard is the best, with all 3 in top five. Stanford (law, business) and Penn (Med, busienss) both have two in the top five. </p>

<p>For undergraduate, there’s no real way to rank them, other than for eng or business.</p>

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<p>Duke has two as well (Medicine (research) and BME).</p>

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<p>this is for graduate school though</p>

<p>plus he says top notch is “top 5” but more than five schools have a certain subject listed</p>

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<p>Flavian, I don’t want to nit-pick, but you have the order reversed. Cal has the most programs ranked in the top 5, followed by Stanford.</p>

<p>“The new 2006 edition of U.S. News & World Report’s listing of top graduate schools shows that experts rank UC Berkeley’s Ph.D programs in the top five in all 15 categories considered by the news magazine — an accomplishment attained in that survey by no other university”</p>

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<p>Penn has more than 1 graduate program that is considered “top-notch.” In fact, as of 1995, Penn had 15 of its graduate departments ranked in the top 10. These include: Anthropology (6), French (5), Economics (8), English (8), Linguistics (5), Music (7), Religion (10), Spanish (6), Neurosciences (10), Pharmacology (10), Physiology (3), BioMedical Engineering (5), Materials Science (10), and Psychology (8). The list goes on. (<a href=“http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41.html[/url]”>http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41.html&lt;/a&gt;)
In addition to all those top 10 programs, 35 of Penn’s departments were ranked in the top 25, not including any business-related departments.</p>

<p>Also, keep in mind that those rankings are all from 10 years ago, and that the university has improved by leaps and bounds in ten years and a lot of those rankings have gone up. For instance, Penn’s Anthropology dept. is now tied for #1 with UChicago.</p>

<p>Those who think that Penn’s only strength is in business are grossly misinformed.</p>

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<p>Someone once said Penn was top 10 in anthropology, theology, psychology, and literature. I guess thats backed up above</p>

<p>I’m sure duke has top departments as well at the graduate level (since thats what the rankings in the OP are for)</p>

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<p>Don’t forget that Penn also has the oldest medical school in the country, and was ranked 4th (Med school) by USnews 2006, and usually in the top 3-4 in NIH rankings. Penn’s law school is top 10, ranked 7th by USnews.</p>

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<p>Penn fluctuates in law. If you look at past law rankings, Duke and Penn have been fighting for that number 8 spot. In fact, Duke wins most of the time. But they are both about equal in law. Also, the best medical complex is located either on WUSTL or next to Rice. The Texas Medical Center is the largest medical complex on the planet and available by the slightest whim to Rice students.</p>

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<p>I love how Penn is <em>only</em> top notch in business because of Wharton.</p>

<p>Ah, the ignorance.</p>

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<p>theoneo: that’s a very insightful observation…</p>

<p>yes wharton is a part of penn undergrad…hence it leads to penn having the best business programs. Just like the Walsh SFS is part of Georgetown undergrad…hence it leads to gtown having the best international relations/political science programs.</p>

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<p>This is also a “department” where Penn excels and it is undergrad and very much demand for the graduates.</p>

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<p>Those (the original poster’s) are graduate rankings. On the graduate level, Harvard, Stanford, and Berkeley blow Penn, Duke, Princeton, and Yale out of this world. Duke has an awesome med school, and Penn probably has the best business, but that’s about it for those two schools on the graduate level. I don’t think anyone can dispute the overall superiority of Stanford, Harvard, and Berkeley over the rest of the bunch. Still, if someone wants to do grad med school, he or she probably doesn’t care about the rest of the grad programs at a specific school. That’s probably why USNWR does not calculate “overall” grad rankings.</p>

<p>However, on the undergrad level, the difference between all those schools (with the exception of Berkeley) becomes miniscule.</p>