@walkinghome my H is from Bermuda and still has family there. D2 may go to Bermuda to wfh for a couple months and stay with family. Our nephew and his D came from the UK to Bermuda for a visit a few weeks ago and had to have a negative Covid test before arrival and then they were required to have 2 additional tests while they were there.
I would think a huge issue for people living on sailboats right now is that you cannot get food and supplies ‘delivered’. It would require a trip in public transportation or taxi to get to any stores from a mooring, dock or anchorage.
In the BVI they were locked down so tight that residents are given alternating days and time slots (based on where they live) that they are allowed to go into town to get food and supplies. Also, the ferry that runs to BVI from US Virgin Islands is shut down during the quarantines to keep visitors out. This is a popular way that BVI residents do their shopping.
Have stores stopped doing this? In areas I’m familiar with it’s common for grocery and hardware stores to deliver to docks, but I’m not near those now to know if they’ve stopped doing that or not. I assumed it would be common at pretty much all areas where people live on boats - perhaps not?
The majority of sailors living on board or stuck when passing through do not tie up at docks due to high costs. They are anchored out somewhere. I guess they could pull up to a fuel dock to refill water tanks and get a delivery. You can pay extra for provisioning delivery for charter boats but I don’t know if they are offering any delivery services in BVI right now
@Creekland I think that you could probably find message boards that are for cruisers. I’m not sure of the details but an acquaintance who cruises the world but whose home “base” mentioned his friends being stuck in French Polynesia for a period of time. Confined to their boat but not able to move on as other countries weren’t letting them in.
I’m just back from my first Covid travel. We drove with a travel trailer approximately 500 miles to a state park campground on the northern Ca coast. We had made the reservation 6 months ago and were meeting my D. The campground was great. They had only booked about 40% of the sites and were not taking drive in reservations. In our small loop their was only two other sites filled. The day use area was busy but once on the trail or beach people spread out. Masks were required on the beach trails and I saw 100% compliance when people passed others. We went into town and also visited another beach town. Motels showed no vacancy but a lot of the shops have closed. I think the window of business is small in the best of years and Covid has really hurt the local economies. The shops we went in had mask and hand sanitizer required to enter. Several shop owners thanked us when we came in for having our masks on.
With the trailer we stopped on both the way up and way back down at private RV style parks. Both parks were full and sites were close together. We saw a lot of large groups camping together and not a lot of mask wearing.
We might try to do one more short distance camping trip next month.
This is what happens in the areas I’m familiar with. Folks call in their order - or probably use the internet now - and coordinate a pick up time. If the order was large enough, delivery was free. Stores liked the business. I have limited exposure though. I’m not the sailor. H is. I know what I saw on my own river and where we vacationed.
@mom60 I shall have to ask H. He probably knows or might be on a board or two besides his racing sailboat site. He’s just not home for the near future due to helping his dad. I’m still not anywhere near convinced that I want to live aboard a sailboat. I’m a condo with a view lover. It’s nice watching him sail and taking pictures. But beggars might not be able to be choosers if we want to winter somewhere warm this year.
https://www.yachtingworld.com/features/lockdown-world-cruising-covid-19-sailing-127169
@Creekland here is an article I found
My inlaws did several big extended live board stints each lasting 2-4 years. During the first few they rented their house out. The next several they just kept the house empty. They never did the sell everything and take off to sea thing. They did extensive can and dry good provisioning before they left and at places along the way when they came across good resources. They did local marketing for fresh food. Of course all this was done pre Covid. My mother in law never did the long ocean crossings. For example she didn’t cross the Atlantic or the Pacific. FIL had help on the crossings and MIL flew and met him in the new continent. I prefer to charter for week to 10 days in warm locations. I enjoy being on the water but have absolutely no desire to live full time on a boat.
Son says “ the entire country is still in the middle of an uncontrolled pandemic, and I just don’t feel comfortable making an extended cross-state vacation.”. He admits he’s a coward, even with my careful planning to minimize risk of exposure to very few points.
So probably won’t see him in person until spring at the earliest, more likely summer 2021. He essentially is isolated WFH in his apartment almost 24/7. The trip and visit were for his mental health as much as seeing him. But what can you do, he’s 32.
Theoretically we could drive to see him, but it’s four day round trip and he can’t put us up. He’s also illogically concerned with asymptomatically infecting us. He certainly wouldn’t see us if we flew. He’s always been a high anxiety kid.
Sigh. We’re the ones with the house and deck and pool and hot tub and grass and flowers and neighborhood walks and beaches…
A friend mentioned that her brother and his wife were just up here visiting. They are from South Carolina and he is morbidly obese. I asked, “Did they quarantine?” and she said, “No.” I know her well enough that I said if I had a brother who wanted to visit from down south, I would have told him not to come. Ack. It really does seem that people don’t think anything will happen in their particular situation. My friend is usually careful and practical.
In other news, CapitalOne decided that JustFly.com’s $70 “handling fee” (to process our refund that we still haven’t gotten) was justified so they put the amount back on our card. Grr.
It’s his decision and while most don’t agree with him, he’s sticking by his guns. I’m sure he realizes how privileged he is to be able to do what he wants, still work, have food delivered, etc., and that he’s willing to give up everything else.
You can visit by zoom, which is a lot more than some people have.
@MaineLonghorn I feel your pain RE: CapitalOne. I’ve got my own gripe against them.
For no reason (from my end) they have reduced my credit limit on my credit card by 2/3. I’ve always maintained a high credit limit in case of emergencies while traveling, etc. I have never carried a balance over to the next month, but I’ve read that the industry is afraid that if too many people started approaching their credit limits due to the poor economy, cc companies could be in serious financial trouble.
Since CapOne will give a card to just about anyone, they may be at greater risk. None of my other cards have touched my credit limit. To quote you, Grr.
@MADad, that’s too bad. Wow, that’s bizarre they reduced your limit that much! I hope they don’t do that to us. We’ve been happy with them up to now - we’ve had their card for over 20 years. We’ve gotten so many flights and hotel rooms for free because of it!
@MaineLonghorn , we’re newbies with CapOne–when we retired and started travelling more 4 yrs ago, we needed cards with no foreign transaction fees–enter CapOne.
I’ve recommended CapOne to all of my kids, as they transitioned from their college student low-limit cards to cards with better benefits when they got “real” jobs.
@MAdAD, yes, we like the no foreign transaction fees! Plus they will pay for Global Entry application and renewal fees.
Just went to Alaska. They required a negative Covid test within 72 hours of departure, plus you had to fill out information online and submit proof of the test. If you did that, no quarantine (unless your results weren’t released yet).
But after all that rigamarole to get there, there were less people wearing masks there than anywhere else I’ve been in the country. Even people grabbing your hand to shake (noooo, time to go wash my hands). Seemed odd.
Alaska just got added again to our quarantine list in CT. So…if traveling there, when one returns to CT, 14 day quarantine is required. I don’t believe a negative Covid test can be used in lieu of the quarantine, but I’m not positive about that.
We have 30 states and three territories on the CT quarantine list which gets updated every Tuesday.
Definitely makes folks like me think twice about traveling…because a state could get added while you are gone…
Off topic, sorry. My parents sailed around the world after retirement. My Mom was beyond detailed in her planning and storage when they departed on the trip. A giant old fashioned, pre Internet, spreadsheet printed out with supplies in alpha order and exact location. Her biggest worry…toilet paper!! She figured out a way to stash over 400 rolls of tp on a 40 ft sailboat. We had to sit for weeks pulling the tube out and smashing and vacuum packing that toilet paper?
She was 30 yrs ready for Covid
We drove to Hilton Head Island SC last weekend (from NC). It was our first outing since February! As we approached HHI there were multiple (3 or 4 at least) road signs announcing the requirement to mask up, mask required to enter any business. I will say, when it is a REQUIREMENT, people just do it and don’t whine. When you make it optional, or recommended only, you instantly divide people into maskers and not maskers. Our hotel room was “sealed” (sanitized) and I broke the seal and there was no maid service - we only stayed 2 nights. Everyone was masked in the hotel, we skipped the pool when it was crowded and went straight to the beach, which was beautiful - huge, not overly crowded, very breezy, easy to distance and felt perfectly safe. We ate outside one evening, and inside for breakfast with plenty of room and a fancy dinner one evening inside that also gave us plenty of space. There were 2 meals where I felt a little uncomfortable due to not enough space and slow service. Bad combination of time and space. Hopefully we didn’t get infected, because we are going on a bigger, longer roadtrip to Michigan starting Thursday.
DH’s youngest brother is crashing here for the night on his way to visit parents in LA. He left Austin at 4AM and arrived here (SE of Phoenix) at 4:15PM with only two stops for gas, no restrooms. He showered and changed clothes in the casita before coming into the house. He is the first person to cross our threshold since March 13th. He and his wife have been isolating with the same risk assessments/behaviors as me and DH, so we have no problem hosting him in our casita (with its separate HVAC system). I can’t believe how crazy glad I was to have someone to talk to other that DH. And he’s not even a favorite family member. Crazy times.
Here’s an update on the cases related to Sturgis. A South Dakota newspaper puts it at 236. I know here in MN we had roughly 50 with 2 hospitalized.
The newspaper article breaks it down by state. As a bonus they also have the number of active cases on SD college campuses.