My son just flew from DC to Martha’s Vineyard. He had to have a negative Covid test , done within 72 hours of arrival . If he hadn’t had the results yet, he would have had to quarantine until he had the results.
It seems that we have a two tiered system. If you can afford to travel and can afford to pay for a COVID test, then you can go places (except apparently Hawaii). If you are poor and are driving to visit relatives,(or can’t get access to testing) then you need to quarantine.
I think I got it.
Back when Texas was “good” and Louisiana had a very high positivity rate (early June or so) Texas was actually stopping cars at the border.
@walkinghome in our state, CT, there is a hotline where anyone can report someone who is supposed to be quarantining and isn’t. There have been some fines imposed here.
We have an OOS vacation planned and if that state ends up on our quarantine list, we won’t be going. Period. Or if that state puts ours on their quarantine list…we won’t be going. We are watching both states carefully. Ours (CT) is doing ok. NJ is also OK right now.
So…we shall see.
But it would never be in my makeup to NOT quarantine when asked to do so.
@thumper1 , We’re in the same place - we’re watching the list for our state carefully but both our state and where we are going look very good right now. We really have no choice about doing a quarantine if the visiting state went on the bad list while we were gone - our employers mandate it and I would expect it of our co-workers too.
WE followed the rules imposed last month. We stayed in a state that was considered a safe state, but had no strict rules for the 14 days before we entered NY. . BTW NY now makes you also fill out a form if you check into a hotel. When we drove into NYS with GA plates, there was a cop behind us. We did not get pulled over, so no police are not targeting those with out of state plates. My D and I want to take a vacation at the end of Oct. Every time we think of place, it ends up that it wont work out. Our original plan back in Jan/Feb was that right now we would be Hawaii. Now we were thinking the virgin Islands , but cases are spiking there. At one point we wanted to go to Oregon to visit portland and the wineries , hoping they would would open. Now that doesnt seem prudent. We thought houseboat on Lake powell, but logistics made no sense. Whatever we decide we will follow all the rules and laws needed .
The WaPo charts have drop-down boxes that show stats by county and a color graph of cases that reflects the last 7 days. You can see which counties are “hot.”
We can certainly expect a spike in the DC area based on what I’m seeing right now on CNN. Hardly any masks, tons of people shoulder to shoulder. Crazy.
The last time was very similar with many not wearing masks and I was quite surprised but I saw it reported several times that there were no spikes linked to the protests.
Although, interestingly when the bikers congregated outside they did transmit the virus.
^^^ What “last time” are you referring to @yearstogo???
Sorry for not being specific, I was referring to the George Floyd protests. I remember thinking at the time we would certainly see numerous spikes in Covid and was happy that we did not.
A lot of protesters wore masks (at least they did in my area), which helped to limit the spread. I saw pictures of people in Sturgis who were eating and drinking indoors, without masks or social distancing. Smashmouth performed an outdoor concert. Video shows people standing shoulder to shoulder, singing, dancing … and I imagine, sweating. Behavior at “fun” outdoor events can get pretty “close.”
There were concerted efforts at the George Floyd protests to distribute masks. BLM, NAACP and other groups were distributing them, per my mask-making group.
I checked into a NY hotel in the last 2 weeks, I was not required to fill out any form. I also have plates (and DL) from a state that was on the “bad” list until very recently and have never been pulled over. I do carry recent postmarked mail for my “good” state that I now reside in to prove residency in case I am asked.
The bikers were not just outside and then went home. They were at the event for days and went to restaurants, stayed in hotels, etc. That’s not the same as protesting for a few hours (mostly masked) and going home.
That said, I don’t know that there will be big outbreaks from the N Dakota even because people are more aware and likely were careful with spread when they got home and also probably a lot of people were tested.
I thought DC had quarantine rules for people coming in from outside the district. If they don’t enforce it for these folks, they shouldn’t enforce it for anyone.
@deb922 Actually, I think, at least in NJ, driving allows you more freedom, as you are not on the radar. I believe passengers arriving at airports in the state are asked to register some info and agree to a quarantine.
In addition, again maybe only specific to NJ, but a test does not give you a get out of jail free card. 14 day quarantine is required, regardless.
If you are staying in NY more than 24 hours and from a restricted state, you are required to go online and fill out a form just like people who arrive at airports. If you do not fill it out and are “caught” then you will be fined.
From the NYS website: "All out-of-state travelers from designated states must complete the form upon entering New York. Travelers who leave the airport without completing the form will be subject to a $2,000 fine and may be brought to a hearing and ordered to complete mandatory quarantine. Travelers coming to New York from designated states through other means of transport, including trains and cars, must fill out the form online. "
@TatinG DC does and they put the word out for the event. It is a much smaller event with what appears to be MD, DC, VA. It is smaller than most others. MD and VA are not on quarantine list. Not much distancing but good mask wearing from tv view.
@Singersmom07 I saw very few people wearing masks, and news reports also mention few masks, lack of social distancing, lack of covid screening, and concern about community spread.