<p>My Ds school has banned “denim”- not just jeans, but denim, and said they will assume a pant is denim if it has “rivets”</p>
<p>besides the absurdity of this, anyone there have a quick way of distinguishing one kind of cotton from another to determine which is denim?</p>
<p>is it the “wrong side” and how that looks, is it the way it fades, is it that there are rivits, or do we need to look at how the fabric was manufactured to determine what constitutes denim</p>
<p>I ask as D has cute pants that are obviouslly not “jean” material, but has a couple of tiny rivets for style</p>
<p>This is driving us nuts, because besides the manufacturing process, which I haven’t found to be to consistent, and the definition is either very narrow or very broad</p>
<p>My guess, and it is just a guess, is that if it is not one of the denim blue shades AND does not have rivets, it will pass. I say this because my golf course does not allow denim. However, I have denim green pants and no one ever notices that they are such. By denim, they really seem to mean “blue jeans.”</p>
<p>In your d’s case, I think they want to avoid blue jeans, maybe carpenter/painter pants and similar.</p>
<p>Denim is, in fact, a fabrication. This is what wikipedia (the known authority on everything, lol) says:
I was a Buyer at the Gap at one time. Denim was an entirely different department from other wovens, so there is a difference; but I don’t think most people can tell denim from heavy cotton duck, for instance.</p>
<p>I would think the school might want to re-state this part of the dress code, if possible. I would think the actual fabrication is less likely to be what bothers them. OTOH, I guess students can just steer a wide course around any type of casual heavy rough-textured cotton twill.</p>
<p>wow
why would they ban denim and do they not care about families who can’t afford to buy a whole new wardrobe?
Why not just switch to uniforms?</p>
<p>Rivets don’t mean denim IMO, but I hate it when schools make teachers into the fashion police. I remember when my junior high didn’t allow girls to wear pants- but then they allowed us as long as they weren’t “jeans”.
This was when “hotpants” were in style and I remember wearing “denim shorts” but a long top, so the “rivets” couldn’t be seen. ;)</p>
<p>What do they hope to accomplish by this? The only thing I can think of is to take a armload of clothing down to have it preapproved, although that didn’t work so well with those girls who had their prom dresses preapproved and later were made to leave the dance.
:p</p>
<p>Denim refers to a type of weaving which results in a smooth side and a side with diagonal stripes. Blue jeans made of denim have rivets and usually contrasting stitching, and often are designed to fade. Dockers and other casual pants made of denim often do not have rivets, contrasting stitching and do not fade. </p>
<p>Denim is usually made of 100% cotton, but there are denim fabrics made from blends.</p>
<p>my sister’s former private school banned Jean’s yr’s ago. They also banned any shirt w/ a design on it. My private school is uniform but i love i’t. Think cargo’s and chino’s(we wear Chino’s weren’t even allowed to wear Cargo’s).</p>
<p>Oh for crying out loud…back to the future. My high school banned any pant with rivets (remember the tan colored “jeans” that all the guys wore in the 60’s?). They claimed the rivets damaged the furniture.</p>
<p>I wasn’t sure what this thread was about when I saw the title: “What is denim?” and I could only think of: "I’ll take Clothing for $800, Alex. ‘What are dungarees?’ " :D</p>
<p>Anyway, I don’t get your school’s policy or the reason behind it. Is this public school? I’m not into this idea. But IF they are gonna have such a policy, then it might have been easier to say, “no jeans.” (or confuse people further and say, “no dungarees!”) :p</p>
<p>AND…IF that is the case…there are a LOT of teens at your school who are gonna need NEW wardrobes since jeans are the staple of most teens’ wardrobes.</p>
<p>My private school enacted the exact same rule. They said “no jeans or jean-style pants,” which we found out on the first day of school meant pants with rivets or with a five pocket style (two front, two back, and that little one on the front). The rule was amended after parents and students came forward saying that the rule wasn’t clear and that they had already bought new school clothes that were no longer allowed and couldn’t be returned. </p>
<p>I can understand a private school banning blue jeans, but plenty of women’s khakis, cords, and other nice looking pants have rivets around the pockets.</p>
<p>Ask the school for clarification.</p>
<p>I have nothing against dress codes that force students to dress nicely and respectfully (think: business casual or a step below), but schools need to make it clear what they’re looking for.</p>
<p>My son’s (public) charter has a dress code that includes restrictions on shoes… basically, no shoes that can be used for any sport allowed. Nevermind that in a pinch even wingtips can be used for many an athletic event. The funniest part to me is that boat shoes – top siders – are allowed. I couldn’t figure out that one until I realized, oh yea, duh: we live in colorado, a landlocked state. We don’t DO boats…</p>
<p>For some reason, we have a “no denim” rule at my office. I am sitting here right now in flagrant violation, with my dark denim, trouser-cut “jeans”. I, being “special”, have decided that the rule doesn’t apply to me or to my nicely tailored pants! To me, denim is pretty easy to recognize, no matter what the color.</p>
<p>katliamom, that is too funny, my D has some bowling shoes she found on ebay, really cool shoes, guess if you consider bowling a sport (ducking now) she couldn’t wear them</p>
<p>you guys have been really helpful, serouslly, it shows the decision making process- hey lets say no denim, what does that mean, don’t know, but its like porn, you know it when you see it?</p>
<p>Our country club has a “no denim” rule. It means what we refer to as jeans or jeans jackets, or anything made out of the blue denim that fades. If you are wearing tan denim they won’t say anything. And needless to say, the ladies get away with way more than the men. As for my daughters, it really puts a crimp in what they can wear to dinner. And often what they come up with is way less formal than jeans and a nice shirt.</p>
<p>Does your club include houses, UCD? The rule strikes me as very, very strange if there are people who live there. The country club I’m a member of has a strict dress code for dinner in the club house, but I don’t think they have rules for hanging around the grounds or walking to/from the gym.</p>
<p>corranged, LOL
Country clubs usually have different dress codes per setting, i.e. tennis whites. We technically live in a country club although we (H and I) do not pay dues for the club membership. They still let us play golf and tennis (hahaha they want the money), just not swim in the pool (who cares) or eat at the dining room (again who cares).</p>
<p>I believe it’s no denim or T-shirts in the club house, on the golf course, or on the tennis courts. You may wear denim around the pool, or while watching tennis. On the tennis courts you need to be wearing tennis clothes and shoes. (So a t-shirt with a tennis theme is okay, but a t-shirt with a soaring eagle on it is not.) On the golf course you need to be wearing a golf or collared shirt and your shirt needs to be tucked in unless it was made to be untucked. (That last part was for the women. Men can’t get away with that.) To use the exercise room you need to be wearing exercise clothes. If you are wearing jeans, and want to change, you are supposed to enter the locker rooms from the outside entrances. I’m not sure I understand the “houses” question. There are no houses in the country club. Are there country clubs that have housing?</p>