<p>Hi Everyone~</p>
<p>What would you do if your Tier 4 stats child fell in love with a Tier 1 school (Tier 1 as in Ivy League schools, etc.)?</p>
<p>Try to bring them back to reality with as little pain as possible.</p>
<p>Maybe that will encourage them to work hard in UG so they can go to that school for graduate school?</p>
<p>Ask them to make a list of what they love about the college. Then find realistic matches and safeties that are similar.</p>
<p>I would set my kid up on a date with the young woman on the other thread who allegedly has Ivy-level stats but wants to go to a fourth tier school and then see what happened.</p>
<p>Are you allowed to fill in your own information (grades, SAT scores, etc.) on someone else’s application to give them a “boost”? It sounds like it might be illegal, but how would they know!?!?! </p>
<p>Oh, wait, never mind. Just kidding; that makes no sense.</p>
<p>Try to figure out what it is about Tier 1 school that is so attractive to Tier 4 child. Is it the way the campus looks? Find a Tier 4 school with similar curb appeal. Is it the need for the external or internal validation? Have that talk about not needing to prove anything to anyone but yourself and that can be done in at many schools that would be a better fit socially and less stressful academically. Is it a particular program? Find Tier 4 schools that offer similar programs. Is it that someone they care about is going to Tier 1? Remind them that most relationships don’t last beyond freshman year so picking a school that your SO is attending isn’t a good decision. Etc…</p>
<p>There is a reason Tier 4 kid is attracted to this place and this information can help inform the development of a list of ‘match schools’ in addition to the one ‘reach’ that they may need to apply to.</p>
<p>Okay, here is what you do. Right after high school graduation, locate a tier 1 kid who fell in love with a tier 4 school. Then switch their brains. Then they can each apply to and get into their dream school!</p>
<p>Oh, you will need a monkey, an electromagnetic switching helmet, and a thunderstorm for this, by the way. Check eBay and keep a close eye on the Weather Channel.</p>
<p>At least that gap is so large as to be very obvious to anyone looking at the numbers.</p>
<p>Encourage them to apply to their tier I dream school. As a parent who are you to discourage them? And you will have the satisfaction of knowing that your application fee will help support the overhead of the admissions department. You will also have the satisfaction of knowing that your child’s rejection will keep the school’s acceptance rate down and will in some small way improve its US News Ranking. Win-win.</p>
<p>“I would set my kid up on a date with the young woman on the other thread who allegedly has Ivy-level stats but wants to go to a fourth tier school and then see what happened.”</p>
<p>Let’s assume that makes that woman change her mind and decide to go to the Tier 1 school instead. What does that make this kid do?</p>
<p>I don’t think I would pay for the application fee. On top of that, if my kid were able to get in by luck, I am not sure if I would pay for the tuition. I think my kid would have to prove to me that she could handle a tier 1 school’s work load.</p>
<p>^^^
agree with oldfort. That is why there are colleges for everyone.</p>
<p>If a child really, really wants something for a good reason, why not help them navigate the path in that direction. A rejection letter would mean accepting a different option (it seems that all know it’s wise to apply to schools at different levels since admission is not always predictable) and if the dream still exists (for a good reason) your child could work really hard for two years, then transfer or work really hard then try that school for graduate school.</p>
<p>Go to Collegeboard’s website and put the ivy’s name in the college area. click on SAT/AP/CLEP button. That will show you the mid-50s range of students that get accepted. Explain that those in the low 25% are special admits…athletes, URM, children of major donors, etc.</p>
<p>For instance…for Harvard…</p>
<p>These are the score ranges for the mid-50 range of students.</p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading: 690 - 780
SAT Math: 690 - 790<br>
SAT Writing: 690 - 780
ACT Composite: 31 - 34 </p>
<p>I agree with the others. Find out what your child likes about that school. It could be just the “name” that your child likes. He/she may think, that’s the best school therefore I should go there.</p>
<p>BTW…does anyone know where the GPA is listed on Collegeboard?</p>
<p>I guess my first mistake would have been to visit the tier 1 school with my child…?</p>
<p>First if there was a visit I would let them apply. Since they are lots of differences as well as some similarities, I’d try to figure out what it was about the school that was liked and find alternatives with the same characteristics and a better acceptance rate to also send applications. If it’s simply a “name” thing, then that’s an entirely different problem and a simply “no” might be in order since that alone is not a good reason to pick a college.</p>
<p>This thread is SATIRE.</p>
<p>At least, I think so. Based off of the “what if you’re Ivy-caliber child fell in love with a tier 4 school?” thread. (:</p>
<p>There is a Rolling Stones song we used to play for the kids when they were little and they whined :-)</p>
<p>You can’t always get what you want…
…but if you CRY sometimes…you get what you need.</p>