What's it like thinking about your college years?

<p>For parents - I was wondering what you guys think about or feel when you look back on your college years (in perspective)? I know everyone has different experiences, but I’m trying to get a general sense of maybe how I should see my college experience. I’m a freshman at UPenn now.</p>

<p>More specifically, was college a time when you really grew as a person/ formed your true identity? A time you look back on fondly as maybe the last part of your life you were free to experiment with whatever you wanted to? A time when you made your closest friends? Or are these all cliche’s about college that are kind of overhyped, and college was just another stage of your life?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I don’t think most of us ever really understand the significance a particular time in our life has until years later. </p>

<p>Maybe I’m reading between the lines here, but I’m wondering if you are happy? Essentially you’re asking how YOU should feel about this time in your life. No one can really answer that for you. </p>

<p>You’re a first semester freshman. Just live it, enjoy it, and learn from it. It is an experience that belongs to you alone. If it’s not making you happy, than change it.</p>

<p>Lots of ups and downs. Yes, these may be some of your fondest memories. My happiest days have been raising my son. It’s all good.</p>

<p>I have quite a few regrets about opportunities missed at college. I’ve loved most of the years following grad school in different ways. (Three years with dh to be in Pasadena, followed by five years in Munich, followed by the endless fascination of having kids.)</p>

<p>College was just another phase in life. I had some fun during it (took up scuba diving), some maturing experience (living on my own), and a whole lot of work (engineering plus working a lot to support myself). Getting the degree provided opportunities and allowed me to move into the next phase. Having/raising kids was/is the best experience in my life.</p>

<p>Well, I’m not unhappy. But I’m not super thrilled. I have my happy moments, but overall I’m kind of apathetic. I just thought I’d love college from the moment it started, not just the social aspect but academically and getting involved. That’s one of the things I was looking forward to the most - loving learning because my classes were interesting, even if they were challenging - but I find it hard to get into what I’m taking. </p>

<p>I’m not really asking how I should feel right now. I’m just wondering - if I don’t find college incredible, will I regret it or miss out on some important part of life?</p>

<p>And yes I know, I should be out there living out my college experience instead of asking people what they thought of their own…but I’m just curious.</p>

<p>When all else fails, lower your expectations.</p>

<p>I live by that principle, and I find it very useful.</p>

<p>There’s a lot of hype about the “college experience,” but the reality is that it is NOT necessarily an extraordinary four years in people’s lives.</p>

<p>For most people, some aspects of college are positive; others are negative. To expect too much is a good way to ensure you’re disappointed.</p>

<p>If you’re feeling apathetic about college this semester, consider whether you might make some small changes in your life for next semester. Maybe you would be more enthusiastic about your classes if you could include more small seminar courses and fewer large lectures in your schedule. Would that be possible? Or might you be able to find time for a new extracurricular activity? That kind of small change might be all that’s necessary for college to become a more interesting and involving experience.</p>

<p>Interesting question. When I think about it, there were definite highs and lows. </p>

<p>I went to junior college for two years, and I really did make some of my closest friends there, people I still keep in touch with more than 20 years later. I transferred to my four-year school and feel almost no allegiance to it. I most certainly did not make great friends (long story). In fact, I felt like an outsider, which proved to be a good thing for me. I got an almost full-time job in my profession, rather than hanging out on campus. So, life hands you lemons, make lemonade, ya know?</p>

<p>I wouldn’t worry too much about making those great memories. They’ll come with time. And you’re already growing as a person just by examining your preconceptions about your expectations. Hang in there.</p>

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Largely squandered. It was incredible fun while it was happening, but squandered is still the right word. Whatever you are picturing, make it worse. Have some fun but moderation is your friend.</p>

<p>I really enjoyed my college years. I feel like each phase in my life gets better & better … and that started with college for me. I should share, though, that I never felt very comfortable in my own skin until college. Part of that was due to the fact that I was a bit of a dork. I went to the perfect college, where I was able to “blossom.” </p>

<p>BUT … I did not immediately feel like college was the greatest thing ever. It took a good year to really get settled in & to begin to really enjoy it. Give it time. There are so many things going on in the beginning. Realize that you may never find the kind of contentment in your college years that I found. That’s okay. There will be many more opportunities in your life to feel like it’s the greatest time!</p>

<p>Squandered as in…you could have worked harder and accomplished more instead of having fun all the time?</p>

<p>I guess my other problem is I don’t know what the right balance is between work and fun. I always feel like I have so much work to do; for me there’s no such thing as “I’m done working now.” It’s like there’s always more that I could be studying. I do spend a lot of time doing extracurriculars, attending events (i.e. speakers), basically trying to do things that are constructive, but at the same time I wonder if I should relax more and have some more actual fun (of course, without regretting doing so when exams come around… </p>

<p>Then again, I’m probably just thinking too much and overcomplicating everything. I’ve figured out there’s no answer to how to live. I just personally find it very important to try to take advantage of everything I have and be satisfied with what I’m doing.</p>

<p>Sure - you should have some fun as well. You need some relaxation time to counterbalance your brain a bit. Working out and sports can help. So can doing some volunteering, working a part-time job (you can usually find one on-campus that’s flexible for studying and allows you to work a low number of hours per week), taking an art class or yoga class or anything else that let’s your brain expand and relax at the same time.</p>

<p>My D, who’s taking a very rigorous CS major/Chem minor, enjoyed the opera (appreciation) class she took as a GE. It included attending some operas - something she hadn’t done before.</p>

<p>The downside of college…no matter what, you could/should be studying. </p>

<p>Remember to save some time for mindless doing nothing - crossword puzzles, pinball games, and billiards…all things I spent an inordinate amount of time doing in college. </p>

<p>As for your original question, college was my peak school experience. I felt committed to my education, but very free to experiment and try new things. My first year, I studied Film and Literature, and ended up with a Math and Computer Science double major. One of my best classes was an Italian Literature and Film class where I was the only student reading the books in English. Another great one was an Urban Studies course which was primarily very cool field trips to San Francisco.</p>

<p>good luck, and I agree that you may be overthinking it.</p>

<p>Squandered as in mis-spent. Aimless noodling. Not a thought past next Tuesday. Squandered as in I became a 11th Degree Master at learning how to pass tests without any knowledge of the subject matter. Or at least not any knowledge that remained 48 hours after the test. My system was roughly akin to a water closet but instead of water, alchohol was my medium. Study for 24 hours. Take the test. Pull the chain. Repeat. You can go to a pretty good college and not learn a damn thing if you do it right.</p>

<p>Answering your opening question, I found my college years upsetting because of the Vietnam War. I attended from 1968-72 so there was a big build-up of troops. The boys were edgy because if they didn’t do well in class, and flunked out, their next step was into a uniform because of a draft. Professors didn’t give F’s because that could doom somebody. Several times we organized big busloads of students to go to antiwar marches in Washington, D.C. and that was dirty and grubby travelling. I worried about my older brother as he graduated, and each boyfriend was a story of staying out from the military draft. Meanwhile, we were all very much aware (if we came from public schools) that h.s. friends were being killed overseas. College seemed less important than what was happening in the country. </p>

<p>As a young female, it was extremely difficult to get approved for contraceptives; this involved much subterfuge, secret trips to Planned Parenthood clinics but only after you had lost your virginity. Girls were getting illegal abortions because it was before Roe v. Wade. </p>

<p>My particular college was within an hour of Kent State in 1970. I was lucky that my parents were antiwar, but most students were in big conflict with their parents over core values. I didn’t do much drugs, but a lot of people on campus did (pot and very occasionally acid), so I never quite knew with whom I was talking! </p>

<p>I wish for anything that I could return and just concentrate on the courses.
I loved the learning for its own sake, with hardly any thought to what I’d do after graduating. I chose a purely intellectual major (Art History) simply to be able to enjoy the readings and assignments and forget what was happening in the country.</p>

<p>Today I’m pretty sure that these experiences were worthwhile and gave me
compassion and insight into many tough decisions people make daily. The political turmoil that hijacked my attention from classes also prepared me to enter the world after college, emotionally if not financially. I guess the whole thing toughened me up, in a positive way. </p>

<p>I have to think hard to remember lighthearted or frolicsome times, although there were some good Saturday nights dancing to vinyl records by The Who,
The Stones, Jefferson Airplane, Jim Morrison, Janis, and the Grateful Dead.
It bothers me that your generation is taught about “hippies” as if it was only a love-in. In fact, Woodstock (which I also attended) was a much needed break after the exhaustion of political activity. Too much death was happening and I felt I just needed a break for a weekend (between my freshman and soph years). </p>

<p>I have too many serious memories from college. I needed that inner core to be strengthened, I just didn’t know it would be through political activity. </p>

<p>You actually have a unique opportunity, if you have interest in the world. We’re about to have a crucial presidential election. If you’re a serious person, and you think you should balance studies with fun, that’s probably true. Sports is healthy, yoga is good for you. But you might ALSO feel good to engage with what’s occurring in the nation this year. Even if you just work on voter registration on your campus, you’re doing a very important thing while meeting other people. If politics holds no interest, perhaps just participating in democracy this way is simpler and authentic for you. I am sure that a lot of the campus politics of the 1960’s was the boys’ way of coping with their guilt to be protected from military service. Now, instead, there’s a volunteer army that protects you from the draft. But if you have the privilege of BEING on a campus as a young man, perhaps you can pay that back by involving yourself in the democracy the others are trying to defend. It’s another way of creating “balance” in the coming year.</p>

<p>You sound like a serious person, which is why I wrote so seriously. Just a hunch.</p>

<p>Don’t worry about overthinking. Some of us just DO that. It’s a style.</p>

<p>“You can go to a pretty good college and not learn a damn thing if you do it right.”
How very,very true.</p>

<p>I think the one thing I regret most about college was that at the time I didn’t realize what an absolute gift it was. All I really had to do was learn! When I was finally out in the working world, I realized that I would never have that time again - so free of responsibilities. IMHO, explore those intellectual opportunities with everything you have. </p>

<p>It certainly was not the best time of my life. I just didn’t find it very engaging. I have no contact with any of my friends from that time. I simply feel that there is so much more to life than these 4 years. I really enjoyed my time time in grad school but I was also working at my regular job at the time. Life was pretty exciting then! My own apt. in NYC, new boyfriend, new job, school - fun, fun ,fun! Then with family, living abroad things got really interesting. I really don’t understand the hype about the undergraduate years though. Take it for what it is worth, get the most out of it but I think the excitement starts after graduation.</p>

<p>PS A few of my close male friends, however, have very strong bonds with their college friends. Quite frankly, it’s a bit unappealing to hear the same stories about their “wild and crazy” college antics from 30+ years ago. Jeez, get a life!</p>

<p>I enjoyed my 4 years very much. It was rigorous and I remember calling my parents two times over the four years asking them to come and get me (which they didn’t thank goodness). Don’t have one regret. Worked hard. Played hard. Grew has a person. My son asked me what my GPA was and I don’t even remember. I didn’t graduate with honors, but I think I was somewhere around a 3.4. No one with the exception of my now college freshman has ever asked me that question. Passed my exit exams. Finished my capstone project. Did well on the GMAT. That’s all I remember – that I can share :slight_smile: Still stay in touch with a few college friends - a few are amazingly successful and well known within their respective industries, some are caring for children and aging parents as a career. Could I have done “better” GPA wise…sure. Would a higher GPA have made one wit of difference in my life… really no. I learned equally much about my self, how to function in the workforce, and just general adult social interation from the extra curriculars that ate into my study time. It’s all about balance is what I tell my kids.</p>

<p>At the time, I appreciated how different college was from high school—I was definitely one of the ones who “blossomed” and came into my own in college. Looking back, it was much MORE than just another phase in my life. However, at the time, I felt extremely stressed with the work that I put upon myself (resulting in a really high GPA), I was frustrated with many of the people around me who put partying WAY above school, and I spent a lot of time missing my bf (who was at school 2 hrs away). </p>

<p>In perspective now, a billion years later, I laugh at the “stress” I thought I had at the time, I’ve always felt that I would have sold myself short if I hadn’t done the best work I could do (and that GPA got me a fantastic job out of high school that was the framework for a very successful career), and I appreciate that I had some of those bizarre experiences with some of the people I encountered in college–good preparation for the real world. Yes, I agree it was a major life-forming 4 years, but I didn’t really see it as such at the time.</p>

<p>All the time that D was going through the college search process, my H (the same one I pined over throughout college–now we’ve been married 25 years!) and I both found ourselves wishing that it was us going back to school! There seem to be so many more opportunities now. However, even though I was pretty straight-laced in college, I’m hoping that D doesn’t remotely take some of the chances I did in college in terms of “unwise decisions.” !!! Ha!</p>

<p>… hmm, excellent question. For me college was life changing experience … as I evolved over those 4 years.</p>

<p>The first semester of my freshman year was one of the toughest times in my life. I was happy to be away from home and away from high school … but I was very shy, immature, and socially awkward. It took all fall semester to get my feet on the ground. My second semester was when I got truly comfortable and started to discover who I was really was as a person. From there … my soph through senior years were jsut great … socially as much fun as I ever have had. My slow start is pretty common for shy non-typical kids (in my case no drinking, no drugs, and didn’t aspire to “get laid” … which set me apart from a ton of freshman guys). By the time I graduated I was pretty clear on who I was and who I wanted to become. While “college” is only one word my time in college was four years and it was a journey and an evolution with both good and bad times.</p>

<p>Intellectually college was also a time of growth and evolution … first, getting horrible grades using my HS no-study policy, than pretty good grades using Crumudgeon’s cram and forget method, and eventually moving to taking much harder - way out of my comfort zone classes seeking knowledge. Again this was a four year path with ups and downs.</p>

<p>If you’re a freshman you still in Act I of an eight act play … let life come to you … experience life … and learn from life … and the play will hopefully be a Comedy in the end.</p>

<p>saw a movie over the weekend, written and directed by Robert Redford, “Lions from Lambs” about 3 university students from California, set against the backdrop of the War on Terror. It contrasts a disaffected student (bright, privileged, not attending classes) with two recent students (less privileged, trying to become engaged). Redford plays a polisci professor. I was struck by how hard it is sometimes to perceive one’s full adult status from within the university, although the environment is organized to help you do just that. </p>

<p>One theme of the movie is about making decisions, but there’s a contrast between deciding slowly and thoughtfully, as compared to deciding just for the sake of “making a move” to be an adult.</p>