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What “rule” is being broken/bent if a student’s speech is pre-recorded and played at graduation? What “rule” is being broken/bent if a person brings their own prepared meal/silverware to your home? What “rule” is being broken/bent if a person doesnt turn on the lights on their Sabbath? I do not understand.</p>
<p>Religion is not entirely a matter of spiritual beliefs. The principles of many religions involve following particular customs regarding some aspects of lifestyle.</p>
<p>POIH, one of these principles that may be more familiar to you than dietary restrictions or limitations on activities performed on holy days is the principle of modest dress, especially for women. A variety of religious groups around the world promote or prescribe modest dress, although the exact type of clothing that is regarded as modest differs from one group to another. </p>
<p>Of course, these principles of modest dress do not apply to people who are not members of the religious group. The majority of Americans do not belong to religious groups that prescribe modest dress. You have probably noticed the results; many Americans, especially young people, choose very revealing clothing.</p>
<p>Would you consider a person who followed her religious group’s principles of modest dress to be “uneducated”?</p>
<p>jym, et al…
I suggest you give it up… you are trying to get mature, thoughtful response out of someone whose brain is not the same as neurotypicals [ I highly doubt he has very many "mirror"neurons] - He has shown that he is incapable of understanding or contemplating the thoughts or feelings of others. He lives in world of numbers and “facts” that he believes in and doesn’t understand that repeating a statement, over and over again , is not the same as having a conversation. He is a classic example of the “Little Professor” syndrome. Avoids questions he doesn’t understand, and rigidly repeats what he has already said, like a broken record. No wonder he learned nothing about world religions- it would require empathy and a desire to understand his fellow man and they way others think. He can’t do that because of they way his brain is wired.</p>
<p>I think it’s fairly obvious that most poster on the thread are trying to twist my post and doesn’t want to listen or see the point I’m trying to make.</p>
<p>So my last attempt. If a person beliefs prevent them from doing what other people do as normal behavior then it’s superstitions.</p>
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<li><p>If every one is speaking on the microphone and the person also have spoken on the microphone but refuse to do so on a particular day then it’s a superstition.</p></li>
<li><p>If every one eats food cooked from an oven but some refuse to then it’s superstition. What type of food whether vegetarian, meat or anything else doesn’t matter.</p></li>
<li><p>If everyone have to drive with a face visible picture license and some refuse to show face for the driver’s license or passport then it’s a superstition.</p></li>
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<p>If some one education doesn’t prevent them to believe in such superstitions then that education is a waste.</p>
<p>^^^ see what I mean?..</p>
<p>So POIH, per post 464 … Would you say that “following the crowd” is a important life value, that people should aspire to? And that whether something is appropriate or not should be based on what the masses do?</p>
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<p>I’ve repeatedly indicated that I’ve no problem with how an individual wishes to dress but if some one wants to attend a high school and refuse to abide by rules of the school dress code then it’s a problem.
If the person cite a belief to over ride the school dress code then it’s a superstition.</p>
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<p>Where did I say follow the crowd? I said do what ever you want but don’t try to bend the rules by giving reference to your belief.</p>
<p>Not the same thing.</p>
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<p>I’m not sure why do you think so. Your posts if you go back and re-read in this thread will project you as less accepting of a person who ask questions than I who just ask question. </p>
<p>Why do you think you understand education in America more than I. To me it seems the other way around. </p>
<p>Lot of posters indicate “here in America”; seems like they are talking to some one in Asia. I’m here right in America and know more about the education system in America than most of the posters on the thread.</p>
<p>So please refrain from making it sound as you are some how more American than I.</p>
<p>I’ve never indicated that I’ve problem accepting different life styles or belief system. I’ve problem with superstitions. </p>
<p>I think both are mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>Let’s try this another way:</p>
<p>In Saudi Arabia, a fairly extreme form of modest dress for women is “normal behavior.” Dressing the way most Americans dress is extremely unusual for a woman in that country.</p>
<p>In the United States, it’s the other way around.</p>
<p>So are you saying that whether the wearing of one of these types of clothing is “superstitious” depends on which country the woman is in at the time? Does the Saudi woman who dresses in her usual manner in her home country suddenly become “superstitious” if she comes to visit relatives in the United States and wears the same clothes?</p>
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<p>If you are an American citizen, then you are just as American as I am.</p>
<p>However, you indicated that your first language was not English, and your syntax suggests that you did not receive your education in American schools. Most of the people who have been replying to your posts were educated in the American educational system. We suspect that you were not. Therefore, we think it is likely that we may have some knowledge of the American educational system that you do not share.</p>
<p>*- If every one eats food cooked from an oven but some refuse to then it’s superstition. *</p>
<p>If everyone goes to school at various universities, but some refuse to consider some schools because of some subjective ranking system, then it’s superstition.</p>
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<p>How do you possibly “know more about the education system in America” than anyone else? Do you think that your D’s acceptance to MIT gave you some special insight into education that others don’t have?</p>
<p>Marian: I’m not sure where are you coming from and what exactly your point is.</p>
<p>If a US girl attending a school/college in Saudi Arabia doesn’t abide by school dress code and cite cultural practice or belief as reason then it’s superstition.</p>
<p>Similarly if Saudi Arabian girl attending school/college in US refuse to abide by school dress code and cite beliefs as reason then it’s superstition.</p>
<p>Same things apply to passport or driving license rules.</p>
<p>How each live or dress otherwise is not a concern with anyone?</p>
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<p>At my kids’ hs graduation, the principal asked the young men to remove their mortarboard caps when it was time for the pledge of allegiance. Now, there is no one in my kids’ school who wears a kippah (yarmulke) as a matter of course, but there certainly could have been. Would he have been “breaking the rules” and worthy of censure if he hadn’t taken it off? Or is it a harmless accommodation that he keeps it on?</p>
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<p>There are lots of people who have not gone to college/universities in America but might be more involved or knowledgable about it through the process of educating children through the system.</p>
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<p>Same way as most posters belief that I’ve no knowledge of education system in America.</p>
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<p>Having recently traveled there, I think that Saudi Arabia’s kind of a bad example here, since you could easily be thrown in jail and have no recourse if you didn’t wear the abaya. Let’s confine this discussion to places where there is freedom of religion / speech / movement / dress.</p>
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<p>Oh please, you have a kid who graduated high school and made it into an elite college. Same with 99% of the other posters on here. What special insight do you have into the American educational system that they don’t? You didn’t acquire any more “knowledge” about the American educational system from sending your kid to Harker than I did sending mine to the local public hs.</p>
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<p>Certainly if some one choose Noter Dame over UCB just because it is ranked higher on US News then it’s a superstition.</p>
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<p>POIH, it sounds like you place very high value on conforming to societal norms of the majority. If one chooses to follow practices other than those of the majority you consider that superstition. Am I understanding you correctly?</p>