<p>I’m a libertarian and I think I hate christian conservatives more than liberals do. But I also hate liberals for making such stupid generalizations about conservatives. But that also means I hate everyone and am a little hypocritical which is why I’m a libertarian.</p>
<p>Darwinian theory was in the first chapter of my introductory bio textbook, and is in my psychology textbook. I think I even saw it in one of my economics textbooks. I think its catching on nicely.</p>
<p>I’m a gay liberal and cons annoy me for their intolerance, I had a few conservative friends but we’d clash because while one of them “just wouldn’t get into it” if you brought something up, you knew where they stood and it made it hard to stay friends. I think the field we have to protect from intolerant types is Psychology (amongst the other sciences), they infested it once and did a lot of evil with it. They STILL try to do evil with it when it comes to lies about homosexuality. They use false degrees and brainwashing to move an anti-gay agenda based on lies.</p>
<p>That paragraph just <em>drips</em> with tolerance and open-mindedness, Itachirumon.</p>
<p>^ a statement of fact cannot be insolent… homophobic conservatives (i.e. most of them) ARE evil liars (or more like deluded, perhaps).</p>
<p>Environmental Science majors (as distinct from Earth Science) probably have the fewest conservatives.</p>
<p>I’m a Christian and I believe that Christianity is compatible with the theory of evolution. The Bible simply says that God created the Earth and every feature of it but it does not say how he did that. Evolution comes in and fills in the gap to explain how God created the animals and humans today.</p>
<p>I also think that it’s stupid for christians to argue the whole creationist vs. evolution debate. (same with getting involved in politics) Maybe they could focus on something that really matters such as poverty in the world.</p>
<p>Just my two cents on the whole thing.</p>
<p>…I’m kind of getting ticked off with the intolerant liberals in this thread who deny that they’re intolerant. I’m very liberal. I’m also gay. I, oddly enough, respect other people’s religious and political views. While I believe in the separation of church and state, if someone’s religious beliefs influence their political beliefs I’m not going to jump on them and call them a bigot. Unfortunately, that makes me a bit of a minority.</p>
<p>^i definitely agree, I think that sometimes we focus more on throwing rocks at other people who don’t agree with us instead of accepting them as they are.</p>
<p>Speaking from a conservative point of view, there are certain things that I don’t agree with because of my religious beliefs such as homosexuality for an example. Unfortunately, people in the church love to protest and condemn people who are gay. In reality, homosexuality is not any worst in my opinion than telling a lie or many of the stuff that we do that isn’t “right” and people who love to protest/condemn are just as much if not even more messed up than the people who are gay. If you were to meet me and you were gay, I would welcome you with open arms and love you as I would any other person.</p>
<p>Again, those are just my religious beliefs. My apologies if I offended anybody by what I said above. That was not my intention!</p>
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<p>You’re using the wrong terms–one can be Christian and conservative and actually BELIEVE in evolution, not tolerate it: see 95% of Catholic Republicans. Do you mean Christian fundamentalists/evangelicals (evangelicals can believe in evolution, but are much more commonly found in the wild)? Common thread between them: “Hey, how are you?” “GOD IS GREAT” “Your hair looks nice.” “GOD IS GREAT I AM SO BLESSED TODAY IN TERMS OF HAIR.”</p>
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ah… say, if a religious belief influences someone to be racist/misogynistic, you’re not going to jump on them and call them a bigot? “THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THINK BLACKS ARE STUPID! THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THINK WOMEN ARE INFERIOR! THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THINK THAT HOMOSEXUALS ARE IMMORAL! THEY’RE NOT BIGOTS!!!1!! I RESPECT THEIR BELIEFS!!!1!!!”</p>
<p>well no. i think they have a right to do so. but they’re still bigots for that.</p>
<p>I will jump on your religious beliefs because they are wrong. I will be all the more eager to jump on your religious beliefs if they affect your political beliefs in any way, and vice versa. I am intolerant of falsities, and you should be too. </p>
<p>I will not, however, jump on your political beliefs (as long as they’re not influenced by your religious beliefs). There is no “right” political belief and no “wrong” political belief (as of yet); they all have their merits. There is, however, a right religious belief, and that is none at all.</p>
<p>^ correct.</p>
<p>it IS bigoted, and wrong, to hate a person for who they are, e.g. race, gender, and sexual orientation.</p>
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ahh… you’re as bad as those liars and are messed up, but i welcome you with open arms. what a nice guy…</p>
<p>a webcomic on respecting other people’s religious beliefs:
[Saturday</a> Morning Breakfast Cereal](<a href=“Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - War”>Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - War)</p>
<p>^well the one thing that you don’t understand is that I consider myself to be just as messed up as someone who is gay. We all are. There’s no such thing as a good person. I’m sure you’ve met a lot of religious people that think that they’re all perfect and all but that’s definitely not true at all.</p>
<p>In the Bible (ok well some of you may not even consider that to be real but that’s another debate), the Jewish religious leaders bring to Jesus a woman who was caught in the act of adultery and asks him whether she should be stoned according to law. Jesus replied to the leaders that the person without sin could throw the first stone. Since all of them had sinned at least one point in the life, the crowd dispersed until it was just Jesus and the woman. In the end, Jesus did not condemn the woman but told her to go on her way and leave her life of sin.</p>
<p>Now when it comes to politics, I have no problem with allowing (and I will not protest it) same-sex marriage.</p>
<p>Let’s try to rehash that:
Sound like a bigot now?</p>
<p>You think being gay is messed up. Most gays are BORN so, just like they’re born blacks, or women. And thinking someone is messed up for who they ARE is what makes me think you’re a bigot.</p>
<p>haha well im not gonna debate this anymore</p>
<p>lets agree to disagree ok?</p>
<p>what a thought-terminating cliche used to quell cognitive dissonance…</p>
<p>Whether homosexuality is something one is born with, or something one develops is an entirely different debate. I’m honestly more on the side of environmental causes. I know this is off topic, but is there any evidence out there that points to the reasoning for homosexuality?</p>
<p>i dunno man… my two male dogs like to have hot male-to-male action :D</p>
<p>@TheRippa</p>
<p>For a Physio Psych class and again in a Psych of Women class I saw a SCIAM article that showed support for the brains of gay men being wired similar to that of straight women and lesibian women being wired similar to straight men. It was referring specifically to their amygdala and that gay men/women had symmetrical brains while lesibian women/men had asymmetrical brains (referring specifically to the cerebellum on the right side being larger than the left). </p>
<p>Of course the going opinion is that it’s not just one cause and that while there’s a genetic basis there’s also a sociocultural basis so Homosexuality becomes more of a biopsychosocial event, as with all sexuality. </p>
<p>@Pierre – those viewpoints are exactly the kind my ex-friend espoused, respectfully. I’m both gay and I consider myself a Christian, but I have a very broad definition of the faith. I’m pro-choice, anti-war, pro-amnesty (for the logical and moral reasons), I believe in evolution and that all faiths are a path to God. I’ve never understood how those beliefs and being a good person can actually be incompatible with Christianity except when someone has a narrow interpretation of the faith… then that’s their problem.</p>
<p>@Tom – I’m one of the most open-minded people you’ll ever meet. The reason I said what I did… well, let me put it to you this way, spend about a month reading the news stories on the gay news website Good As You and read up on some of the prominent homophobic conservatives… Liars is putting it… as nicely as I could. Liars is a gross gross understatement of some of the things they’ve said about the LGBT community.</p>